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Has anyone noticed how the Girotti Family hasn't posted on their blog for a while? Does anyone know what's up? I know their son was engaged and their daughter, Sarah, got married, got pregnant, and is on bed rest, but I thought it was sort of weird that they haven't posted in a while. ??
raised in rebellion posted a topic in Messianic JudaismThis is my 1st post, and I am headed to the intro page next. In the meantime, I was advised that I could start a thread here. This lady is far out, and has many blogs, vlogs, books, and a fairly wide Internet presence. However, she's been around for years and no one seems to be joining her little cult of one. Themes revolve around being sad and right, rejection, the end times, and how to live as a Real Follower of Messiah and YVHV. Not wrong, like all y'all. Her youtube videos are a thing of beauty.
MamaJunebug posted a topic in HomechurchingI think it's the father of Josh "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" Harris who has shut down his father-idolizing church, the Gresham Household o'Faith Church - see ghofcc.org It's not that Gregg Harris has left the idea of family-integrated (read: father-idolizing) churches behind. HIs parishioners have been referred to other like-minded churches in the area as listed at hofcc.org . Lest anybody think I'm being majorly man-hating in my description above, here's where the churches' philosophy becomes plainly stated: (from hofcc.org/about_us) All the pious-sounding talk about "not letting churches divide our families at the door" is just a thin disguising of the real aims, as stated above: fathers are to lead their families, theologically trained and accountanble clergy begone!, all we need is patriarchs. I'd be very interested in why the Harris "church" is disbanding. They make it sound all thoughtful and god-ordained and unavoidable. But I'm hoping that the real reason has to do with people saying, "Hey, wait just a minute, here... this isn't right." Who knows? Seriously, does anybody?
I know the Duggars do it and other fundies, but my question is what do they actually do there? Is there a structure or set up, a way of ordering things? Has anyone here ever been to one? What was it like? I went to church growing up but it was different. Until you took Confirmation, you left services and went to the Sunday School room where you did a prayer, your own collection, some songs and then usually a lesson or craft that had been dumbed down for kids. When I got a little older (maybe First Communion age) I moved up to the older Sunday School group where we did these booklets. You would read a bible passage and then answer questions, like you would with literature or reading comprehension, only with a heavy dose of Jesus. Then we shared our answers and talked about what the passage meant etc. What do they do in home church? Do they really expect the kids to learn anything? Is ATI home church kind of its own boat of crazy?
On our voicemail today it said... Pastor, This is Pastor Michael Catt from Sherwood Baptist Church. I urge you to tell your congregation to go to the movie Courageous. It will change peoples lives... then he kept going on about how awesome it is but never said anything about the Duggars The movie begins tomorrow nationwide! Please take the time to tell your congregation to go to this movie. It will change your life. Ya so I never knew we were a church... does that mean I don't have to pay taxes on the house this year? I did not listen to it again. I will see if I can post his whole message tomorrow just thought you would like to know you can join our church. tithe is 10% of everything you own and we eat Tater TOt Cass and drink cool aid. If you join the congergation you can add your own personal touch
I wonder if we will see more home church problems in the future? Man accused of killing wife, wounding 2 pastors MIKE SCHNEIDER Published: Sep 18, 2011 5:21 PM LAKELAND, Fla. (AP) - Derrick Foster was kneeling in prayer when the gunman burst through the front door of Greater Faith Christian Center Church. He heard shooting, then screams. A former church member is accused of critically wounding the church's pastor and associate pastor as close to 20 people prayed between Sunday services. Authorities and relatives said Jeremiah Fogle shot his wife to death at his house, where he had started his own church, before continuing the rampage a block away at Greater Faith. Foster, a teacher in the ministry, got up and saw the man near the pulpit, turning around with the gun in his hand. "The first thing in my mind was, 'I have to take this gun away,'" he said. The Polk County sheriff's office said Foster and another man tackled the gunman and one of the church members struck the suspect in the head with a microphone stand. "He had a great grip on the gun," Foster said. "My plan was, as soon as he hit the floor, it would cause him to drop it. But he didn't drop it." He said it took three or four minutes of struggling with the gunman before he finally wrested the weapon away. The gunman had six live rounds in his pocket. "He was prepared to shoot even more," Sheriff Grady Judd said, adding that the people who tackled him "were really heroes." Pastor William Boss and associate pastor Carl Stewart were shot from behind, authorities said. Boss, who was shot in the head, and Stewart, shot three times in the back and ear, were in critical condition Sunday. No one else at the church was hurt. "Of all the places you should be safe, you should be safe in a house of worship," Judd said. "Especially on a Sunday morning." As deputies began investigating, a church member advised that they check on Fogle's wife, who lived with him a block away in a neighborhood of mobile homes, humble houses and industrial shops. Investigators and relatives say 56-year-old Theresa Fogle was found slain inside, apparently killed before her husband went to the church. "We don't know exactly why he went in to this mad rage," Judd said. Officials said Jeremiah Fogle would be charged with murder and could face additional charges. It was not immediately clear if he had an attorney. Theresa Fogle's sister Maria Beauford said the couple married in 2002 and ran a transportation business together. They had been members of Greater Faith Christian Center Church, where the shootings happened, but had started their own ministry out of their house and regularly hosted Sunday services, Beauford said. Beauford said she had never known Jeremiah Fogle to be violent toward her sister. He had been sick over the past year and had back surgery, and Theresa Fogle nursed him back to health, Beauford said. She said her brother-in-law was always smiling at family gatherings. "We have no idea what his motive was," she said. "We just have no idea." Jeremiah Fogle's older brother, Collis Fogle Jr., said that the couple seemed to have gotten along well. "It's so sad," he said. "I've been trying to call to figure out what went wrong." Neighbors said they often saw Fogle outside with his wife, mowing the lawn and pulling weeds. "They would cut up and laugh," Doreen Carroll, who lives a couple of blocks away, told The Ledger of Lakeland (http://bit.ly/rdCwfa). Several police cars and police tape blocked off the red-brick church and the street in front. Boss, the pastor, is a caring leader who has "a gift from God to speak," said Reese King, a friend of Boss and the sports director at a local radio station. ___ Associated Press writer Christine Armario contributed to this report from Miami.
Most Christians believe in paying tithes - a percentage of their income to the church. I got to wondering what fundy homechurchers do about this? Do they just not pay? Or do they give it directly to charitable organizations? Somehow I can't imagine, say, the Maxwells giving large sums of money to a women's shelter or something. Thoughts?
I don't really know much about home churching. Before I heard of the concept within the fundie circles, home churching to me was what my family did when I was a child; basically join together with another family or two during the week for discussion about the bible, sing a few songs and have food. We still went to church on a Sunday and Wednesday but probably one night a week we'd either have friends over, or we'd go to someone else's house. So how does it work? What about tithing? If you church is your home then who do you tithe to? If your church is your home, are you claiming tax advantages for your 'church'? From what I have gathered this is what people are doing, there's no wonder homechurching is increasing. Seems like a little earner.