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  1. So I dug through the Wayback machine and finally found the old Bates blog. We have looked before and I'm not sure why we weren't able to find it. Wow, what a difference! One of the biggest things that stands out is that in the picture on top, Kelly is never holding a baby or even standing near a baby. They also bring up ATI and IBLP a lot. Here are some of the Bates going to Romania with Gothard to try to save Gypsies. And there are some super awkward Zack's courtship pictures. Poor girl was clearly never really into him. https://web.archive.org/web/20111206095054/http://gilbatesfamily.com/blog This link tells how they gave Judson that name because they want him to be a soldier for Christ. The link also tells how the older partners(that was their word for buddy) were busy now, so she, at 10, "volunteered" to bathe, dress, and care for the small children. Here are the Bates "recipes" that make Tater Tot Casserole sound good. Pour canned beans over bread, put a sliced hot-dog on it and sprinkle on some cheese. Put a scoop of mashed potatoes on a slice of bologna and sprinkle on some cheese. https://web.archive.org/web/20101112160342/http://gilbatesfamily.com/blog Zach goes to give a talk for IBLP and then Gil preaches about how rejection is conquered by realizing you have gifts. https://web.archive.org/web/20101221071610/http://gilbatesfamily.com/blog/ Gil teaching at ATI's yearly conference. They don't even try to call it a "Family Conference". https://web.archive.org/web/20110620171906/http://gilbatesfamily.com/blog Zach proposing a courtship. https://web.archive.org/web/20110710082032/http://gilbatesfamily.com/blog Gil and Kelly drag a baby around the Grand Canyon with no hat and in only a onesie. Their poor parenting skills were discussed by Free Jinger at the time. https://web.archive.org/web/20110721000848/http://gilbatesfamily.com/blog/ Carlin Josie and Katie doubt their salvation and get saved again. https://web.archive.org/web/20110817061300/http://gilbatesfamily.com/blog/ They spend Valentine's day at IBLP headquarters. https://web.archive.org/web/20110220203649/http://gilbatesfamily.com/blog Trace gets convicted of sin and is saved https://web.archive.org/web/20110220203649/http://gilbatesfamily.com/blog They campaign for Rick Santorum.
  2. Ok, FJ, give it to me. PP's response to the Orlando massacre moves him even further up my list of Worst Fundies/Humans on Earth than he was before. But I want to know who your worst is, and why. Especially you guys who have been here since Yuku . Tell me. I want to know.
  3. IBLP's favorite recruiters/poster children/board sitters, the Batesesses, will be featured at all three of the upcoming IBLP family conferences. I am pretty sure they were on the agenda at Big Sandy, but alas, that one is already down. The Fab David Waller will be there as well. Boob and DQ will be featured in a video. iblp.org/seminars-conferences/regional-conferences/conference-schedule
  4. 19 cats and counting

    Name that Duggar

    I watched a few of the Name that Bates clips that the kids have been doing with Gil and Kelly. Do you think that JB and Michelle would be able to answer questions in a Name that Duggar game?
  5. VERY interesting- I might order it since it is 12 dollars. Sorry if this was discussed before store.iblp.org/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=DC10BA The Bates sure are trying to steal the Duggar spotlight with Gothard Probably this: http://store.iblp.org/product/ZHSF.html
  6. homeschoolmomma1

    For just $9.00 a month...

    you can support the Bates. I wonder if it is like when I helped a starving child or endangered animal and got interesting facts and information on them? haha Sorry if this is discussed before but I followed the link on the Duggars website and it took me to all of the talks Gil and Kelly gave. Oddly the first talk is called,"How to Support a Family of 19 Without a Salary" http://duggarfamily.com/
  7. Since it looks like Gil and Kelly will have 3 of their children married in short order. I'm thinking their next big money making seminar, speech circuit product may be titled: " Helping Our Sheltered Godly Children Find True love AND A Perfectly Christian Spouse". Gotta keep the money rolling in. Take that Jim Bob and Michelle!
  8. And boy oh boy of y'all could hear Gill Bates preaching you'd all lose your lady wood for him.
  9. Seems like that got a $25,000 dream vacation for $1,200 plus incidentals. Jesus really loves them & provides. Awe, the happy couple & the modest beach attire:
  10. I don't know wether this has been posted already (couldn't find anything), but in their latest blog post the Bateseseseses write that they started their own church with Gil as the pastor. They haven't good a church building yet and instead meet in a conference room in a hotel. I wonder if this means that they are going to leave their tree cutting service behind and rely now totally on Lawson's income. If thats true, their horses won't be the only ones starving
  11. Gil Bates strted his own church according to their site. I don't mean to sound suspicus but there must be another underlying reason besides a ministry. It is a good way to make money and get tax deductions. Who else would get all the contributions but Gil?
  12. Talking to Bill and Jane Bates,to be precise. http://www.independentmail.com/news/201 ... -new-show/
  13. The rules: You must say something nice about the following fundies. It can be about anything from their looks to their personality. BUT it must be nice Have fun! Steve Maxwell Teri Maxwell Sarah Maxwell Gil Bates Kelly Bates Michaella: Erin: Nathan:
  14. From our favorite mega-commenter at the 19K&C Facebook page, the Duggar Family Fans blog is reporting that Kelly Bates had her baby. There is no word yet on the Bates family blog. duggarfamilyfans.blogspot.com/
  15. All kinds of links to "advice" on relationship--all from ATI/IBLP or "approved" resources.....At least Kelly is ok.....
  16. This is her response from the Bates blog. Thank you for your concern for Lawson. Actually, he volunteered to extend that money. Erin taught piano and paid hers off. Zach paid his off through his work. It was his own choice and we were so grateful he had such a generous willing heart to do such a kind deed for his family! We teach the children responsibility and gratitude, so the children were faithful at keeping payment records and I think their hearts were all drawn closer together as a result of seeing their brother’s sensitivity to them. Zach had already determined to turn the car down and Erin had already decided not to return to school when he made the offer to help. We were all so blessed!!! I wouldn’t trade that character for anything and I’m so glad the children showed their gratefulness in return by paying him back. As for the end for Lawson… none of our children asked him; it was a willing offer that he never had to make… I’m so glad that money was not his first priority, but rather investing into the lives of others. We’ve all learned from his example! He may never loan anyone money again, but he certainly made a lasting impression this time! Love, Kelly Although I don't agree with any of their beliefs they seemed more real and more "christian" like than the Duggars seemed but it seems they are all the same. I don't get it. I really don't.
  17. The BATES use LAWSON'S income, but claim they only use one income. They even teach that in ATI.......hmmmmmmmmm. I suppose the do not "count" that because the pay him back at some point? So much for "no debt"....... NIGHTLINE: http://abcnews.go.com/US/tennessee-fami ... 190&page=2 Also you can read about the Twitter thing here http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=249523481745673 (Make sure to click on "See More" so you can read all of the instructions)
  18. IReallyAmHopewell

    Bates attend REAL colleges

    So how come the Bates kids can attend a community college and a local Christian College without becoming tube-top wearing sluts or green haired guys, but the Duggars are stuck with College Plus?? I'm disappointed in the Bates for taking advantage of Lawson's bank account, but I still have more respect for them--they are letting their kids grow up a little bit and are letting them have a tiny, tiny bit of freedom. I imagine both Michaella and Zach either had to take the same classes or take a sibling, but still! If it's like our very rural, very small community college there's still an impressive cross section of humanity!
  19. Lawson is working on a low budget Christian western and a few Bateses visited Arizona.He is fine looking man,I'll say. Gil is both working on losing a baby over a cliff and looking both pervy and derpy in the Erin photo.Who says Fundie men aren't talented? Kellys poor body is still working to keep her baby alive. Hopefully Erin is working SAHD mojo on the cute church friend who went with them.
  20. That is Greg Bates,his brother,and family. http://bumpinalongtheroadlesstraveledDOTblogspot.com/ Also,for those of you wondering about Gills and Kellys families heres a little info.
  21. ladypuglover

    Baby Bates #19?

    I'm over at twop trying to see what there is to see and found this tidbit. iblp.org/iblp/discipleship/conferences/regional2011/ I don't know if this is the one they lost or if they are pregnant again and keeping it on the down low after the loss of the last one this spring. If this is the one they lost, well then it really sucks that the site didn't change that info.
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