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  1. I don't know if this is the correct place to post this but I really hope that maybe someone I interacted with on FJ about 9 years ago would find a bit of hope in this. I used to be a fundie Baptist young woman blogger, I ran a blog called "A Rather Unusual Maiden for God" back in 2009-2011. I also had a few threads on FJ talking with members of the forum I have thought about you guys over the past 9 years. I owe you guys a lot for contributing to my current life and happiness. I was a vulnerable young woman living in a toxic fundie hell hole. I was emotionally abused by people I trusted. I left fundiedom back in 2013. When I first started interacting with FJ I actually was starting to question things about my religious upbringing. Reading perspectives on life that were not fundie was critical to me leaving. If anyone who remembers me is still on FJ, thank you. I'm open to answering questions about my experience leaving the fundie movement and all the drama that has come with that decision. A lot has happened in 9 years.
  2. I realize that there is not a set definition of fundamentalism/fundamentalist, so-- while this pod cast is called Recovering Fundamentalist many of you will still consider them fundies (as many would consider me). With that disclaimer, if you are just interested in some of the nuances of IFBx (IFB with an extremist, legalistic view of the Christian life) culture, you might enjoy listening to this pod cast. https://recoveringfundamentalist.org/
  3. AridityOfHeaven

    Must move from this town

    I need away from where I live. I came here to finish my college education when I was a single mom in my 40s. I finished it and ended up staying because my children were in school. They are out now, my youngest just turned 20, and I need to go. Some years ago I became aware that one of the biggest events in this town is a particular festival that is supposed to celebrate the diversity of this community. I'm ashamed to say it's really all about showcasing the wealthy white families - and there is a HUGE income disparity here. The highlight of the festival is a ball where a queen is crowned, debutante style, and once my kids got into high school I really began to understand the real function of this ball. It showcases the white daughters of the rich. There are no kids of color. This is embarrassing in today's world. I really hate it. Then, one of my children was involved in a school activity that requires fundraising. Because this activity requires clothing and equipment, of which new must be purchased every year. The students must travel long distances to stay a week in expensive hotels to properly train, never mind the same exact camp is offered IN THIS TOWN as a day camp at a considerably lower cost. The main fundraiser is the Dad's BBQ, which assumes right off the bat that every participating child has an active father. No amount of asking or persuading would change the minds of the wealthy white parents who locked down the booster club which funds the activity. Tradition. Child must come from the right family, even though this was a public school. So we live through that marginalization, for which I had to pay several hundred dollars in fines because there was no dad to appear for my child and I could not be there that day because I couldn't take off work. Part of the fundraising is to sponsor a trip to sunny Los Angeles, half way across the country, every other spring break. I had to pay money to the booster club to support this, then my child had to try out for and didn't make the activity the following year, so she didn't get to go. Bitter? You bet. So now Daddy/daughter dances have started up - as part of the local public schools. I live in a primarily rural area where the small city has the biggest school system in the county, but numerous small communities have their own districts within the county, and it's the small districts that have picked up on this. I don't want to be here anymore. When I was in college, one of my jobs was as a student worker in the dean's office. The Dean, a woman, got her daughter into cheer in 8th grade and she was talking about how they had to start going to church because all the cheerleaders are active in a church. And she did it! A professor turned dean, but there's no lack of educated people around here. It's just that even with public school education and state college education, everyone still seems to fall into the black hole of church. I'm having a bad weekend. This soul sickness from Trump's acquittal has seeped into my soul and it drowns me. I need out of Cruz country. When Teddy was running for office, his signs permeated the landscape and they all prominently featured "God." Recent local elections showed Republicans running for Jesus. This place is blood red and I need out of it. Until I can get out, you bet I'm voting for any and everything possible, and it won't be anybody Republican.
  4. I was originally going to post this in the Duggar section, but I think the broader issue goes beyond that particular family. There’s been a lot of discussion in the Jill and Jinger threads about whether either of them is “free,” as per the name of this site. Since both of them are still vocally conservative Christians, a lot of people say no. There’s also evidence that Derick and/or Jeremy is controlling, so that would be another mark against them. The problem I have is that there are billions of people who share Jill and Jinger’s views on gender and sexuality or on the exclusivity of their particular religion, but that alone doesn’t make them “unfree.” I consider social media to be curated nonsense, so I don’t really view social media as a good insight into any family or relationship (see how the Hart family hid their abuse through a pretty online media presence), but others may disagree. For some people, it would seem that the only way for Jill or Jinger to indicate their freedom would be if they posted selfies to Instagram of them with a receipt of a donation to planned parenthood and a name tag from the local atheist group. But that doesn’t necessarily prove anything, since there are plenty of women in secular relationships who still end up in domestic violence situations or simply end up unthinkingly replicating patriarchal norms (ie doing the bulk of the housework and childcare simply for being female). The devolution of the New Atheism into redpilling and anti-SJW taunting illustrates that you don’t need religious fundamentalists to be a patriarchal reactionary. So what do people think would constitute “freedom” for any of our fundies?
  5. NachosFlandersStyle

    New podcast from former Quiverfull daughters

    Hannah Ettinger and Kieryn Darkwater now have a weekly podcast discussing aspects of their quiverfull upbringing. I've only listened to two episodes so far but it's pretty good and I'm interested to see what kind of topics and guests they have in the future. https://kitchentablecult.com/
  6. Marian the Librarian

    Pennington Birth Certificate!

    To celebrate FJ's awesome upgrade and snazzy new look (AND cool new emoticons!), I want to point out one piece of good news posted to FJ Shelter during our down time - please forgive the repetition! Per her "Help Me Prove It" Facebook page, Alecia Faith Pennington is now the proud owner of a physical copy of her birth certificate, only 19 (?) years after James and Lisa Pennington should have taken care of that basic little parenting chore. Congratulations, Alecia Faith!
  7. I thought you folks might be interested in this interview with Megan Phelps, formerly of Westboro Baptist Church. It was on the radio as I was driving home from work today. I was pleased to hear this on a mainstream news programme here in the UK. http://bbc.in/1Tq38yZ
  8. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/11/23/conversion-via-twitter-westboro-baptist-church-megan-phelps-roper All about Twitter...and her eventually leaving the church. Maybe social media can save other fundies too.
  9. This is a new article about people fleeing the FLDS. I hope they are right that DOJ case will be a further blow to the "religion". The DOJ seems to be doing it right in the fact that they aren't targeting the religion but the illegal run of the cities, etc. Trying to take them down like Capone. Also Elissa Wall is helping with the underground escape of some of the people. I hope more and more get connected with the internet and google Warren Jeffs and read the truth. Part 1: america.aljazeera.com/multimedia/2015/3/fleeing-the-flds-sect.html Part 2: (I haven't read all of part 2 yet) america.aljazeera.com/multimedia/2015/3/deprogramming-from-the-flds-warren-jeffs-cult.html * mods - please move if not in the right area
  10. Did anyone else watch this? It's about two of Warren's kids who left the FLDS. They both say they were victims of child sexual abuse by Warren.
  11. I realize that this is pretty lengthy and time-consuming, but I decided to post it anyway, because it is really interesting and worth watching. I am not a fan of the show, but Benji Schwimmer apparently was the winner of one of the early seasons of SYTYCD. He is an openly gay dancer/choreographer, and in the following videos, he shares his perspective as a gay man who grew up in the LDS church. We talk a lot about how fundies might be treated if they came out as lgbt, or how their family and church would react...he answers pretty much all of the questions that come with the territory of ultra-religious communities and homosexuality. Anyways, the total viewtime is around 5 1/2 hours, but again, it's kind of a unique interview. If you don't want to watch all of it, I recommend skipping through to part 3.
  12. Charlene Jeffs, actual legal wife (of many sister wives) of Lyle Jeffs, warrens brother who now leads the sect, is divorcing him and fighting for custody of the minor kids. I think there are two minors left out of a large brood. Should be fascinating!
  13. Not breaking because it's LA Times. http://www.latimes.com/news/columnone/l ... .htmlstory
  14. Blessing

    Independent Baptists

    Are there any former independent Baptists on here? Would love to swap some stories!
  15. Welcome to the real world, Zach Phelps-Roper! Mazal tov on your new freedom. http://cjonline.com/news/2014-05-05/fou ... ist-church
  16. happy atheist

    Quiverfull article on Cracked

    http://www.cracked.com/article_21061_5- ... dhood.html The author, Hannah Ettinger, talks about the insanity of growing up Quiverfull. Not much new information, but it's good to see the subject being discussed somewhere as mainstream as Cracked.
  17. http://fox13now.com/2014/03/27/warren-j ... dy-battle/ The father, who was exiled from the FLDS, was granted custody after Warren Jeffs testified (sort of - he mostly took the 5th but said he wasn't a prophet.) Kids going to a public school!
  18. I know some of you enjoy learning about the FLDS. I don't have much information (sorry). I was watching a commercial and it was previewed. They are interviewing a former FLDS woman. One I have never seen before. Anyway I am sure there will be more info throughout the week.
  19. There are currently over four hundred responses. The thread will stay open until tomorrow. http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1 ... ren_jeffs/
  20. medium.com/turning-points/83d2ef8ba4f5 medium.com/reporters-notebook/d63ecca43e35 Megan & Grace Phelps-Roper leave the Westboro Baptist Church.
  21. This coming Sunday, Bio Channel is premiering a new documentary series called Escaping Evil:My Life In A Cult. Well known FLDS escapee and activist Flora Jessop will be the focus of the first episode. ETA: The air time is 10 pm eastern and here is a link to a video clip http://www.biography.com/tv/escaping-ev ... 9542083630
  22. families in this Huffington post video, along with a gay teenager who left his Amish community. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/0 ... 41509.html I think this is wonderful, and I didn't know about the long-term rehabilitation centre for individuals leaving controlling and abusive families, cults, religions, etc. It's good to know that there is a safe place for someone like (Sarah Maxwell, et al.) to go if she ever escapes.
  23. Yet another tragic outcome of never being allowed to explore anything but the most rigid gender and sex roles: http://jezebel.com/5905780/what-happens ... es-a-woman
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