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@nausicaa and I told ya she was a #superficialtwit. What the hell, Alyssa? Blueberry muffin MIX? Yeah, I am judging that one because it takes about 2 minutes more NOT to use a mix and you do nothing but stick your kids in front of videos and take photos of matching dresses.

The Quiverful of Duggars sub-forum has their own rundown of Duggar wedding dresses, so now with Tori Bates getting married, we obviously need a thread dedicated to dresses. Post your rankings! Here's mine, from best to least: 1. Tori (Bates) Smith Without question, the most sophisticated dress and despite some iffy modifications, overall beautiful. Extra points for the long train, classy updo, nice shoes, being adventurous enough to choose a champagne underlay, a fitted lace bodice with some sparkle, and even going for a bit of a sexier look. Could be perfect if fitted better on the waist and possibly didn't have the shear sleeves but just the lace cap sleeves, since there's already a lot going on. Her whole winter theme came together well, so this is easily my personal favorite Bates wedding. 2. Alyssa (Bates) Webster Kudos to Alyssa for going for a well-fitted trumpet style, it looked great on her and fit her personality. Extra points for the bright pink shoes and manila veil. Points taken away for the awkward flower on the waist, the earrings that do not fit the look, and the weird thick strap/cap sleeve since we all know Alyssa was itching to ditch the modesty standards the second she got to Florida. The Barbie pink and blue colors are not for me, but are fitting for her age, personality, and time of year. 3. Whitney (Perkins) Bates I personally don't like Whitney's dress at all, but at least it fit her well and she went for a cute bolero instead of some dumb modesty modification. I also don't like the gathered-to-the-side style but again, that's just me. Can you imagine her look though if she hadn't been trying her best to be "modest" to impress her new fundie in-laws, had already gone to a few other fundie weddings like Jessa and Jinger's, and had come into the awesome sense of style and beautiful hair she has now? I think she would have looked great in Jessa's dress and a nice updo instead of the over-geled bangs and slightly crunchy waves. Bonus points for this sassy pose though, showing us that jeans and a career in real estate would eventually be in her future even if she had to hide her leggings in her honeymoon pics: 4. Erin (Bates) Paine I actually thought Erin looked really cute overall and it helps that she's just such a beautiful girl that she'd make any dress look okay, even though she was a victim of the fundie-modesty-frankenstein-t-shirt-dress trend. The dress fit her bodice well, the princess style suited her personality perfectly, there was just enough sparkle, but I just can't get past that awful modesty panel on the front and dumb sleeves. Can you imagine what her wedding would have looked like in 2017 once the Bates had more money from their show and fundies were finding designers like Ms. Renee? Extra points for great hair though and without question the hottest fundie husband: 5. Michael (Bates) Keilen Poor Michael, she seems like such a nice person but her dress was Rufus-awful and I can't even start on the hair. Her dress is the worst example of modesty-frankenstein alterations, with that horrible ruched front and badly done sleeves, and just generally not form-fitting in any way. As a fellow short girl, she either should have skipped the A-line style for something more fitted at the hips (a sheath, trumpet, or mermaid) or worn heels - it doesn't help that the way it was hemmed made it too long. The only nice thing I can say is I liked the cherry blossom/rustic theme including the pink and beige bridesmaid dresses since it fit their relationship history. Even worse that in the BuB episode we saw 2 dresses that looked SO much better on her. Look at that first one, and even her hair just down like that, she would have looked gorgeous! And just for fun, here's Kelly Jo and a porno-stached Gil:

Continued from here: Remodeling their first house without help from Gil and Kelly.

Skip arcross the meadows from here:

Continued from here: Alyssa is proud that Allie is becoming a sister mom.

Continue from here... Thanks @AliceInFundyland for the title quote.

Continued from here: Alyssa is experiencing continuing heart issues. She's also home schooling Allie Jane. Oh, and she's announced that, due to a friend having a boy, she wants a boy. No big surprise.

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Continue from here ... Thanks @Pecansforeveryone for the thread title

Carry on from here: Alyssa and John have three daughters, as of the end of March: Zoey Joy was born on 28th March, joining older sisters Allie Jane and Lexi Mae. New baby, but nothing much changes...

That’s so adorable!

Well, it's official. Alyssa Webster is wearing pants! Check it out!!!!!!!!!! Here is a pic from her maternity shoot with John.... https://41.media.tumblr.com/4d484ec5a81 ... 1_1280.jpg

Turn on your TVs, political buffs--Rep. Daniel Webster is running for Speaker of the House. http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/third-can ... eakership/ Voting begins at 12:45pm today And we know Alyssa is here in DC, per her Instagram account. I just walked by Webster's office but the door is closed. [not breaking the link because its a regular news site]

Well, Dilly Dally seems to be Dilly Dallying his way into this world, not that I blame him with the family he's being born into, so let's move on to another impending fundie royalty birth. Alyssa Webster (formerly Bates) is due in about five days with her and John's first child, a girl, whom they've named Allie Jane Webster. Alyssa looks like she's about 6 months pregnant at 39 weeks. She has posted a couple of cute pictures of the nursery the couple has set up as well as from her baby shower, where Allie was gifted a normal person baby swimsuit and Alyssa was wearing what was basically a LBD (little black dress). Double Nike! I think she will probably be born in mid-April so I'll guess the 15th exactly. But I wouldn't be at all shocked if Allie kicks her way into the world before Dilly DISCUSS!

Looks like I spoke too soon in my post earlier! Alyssa Webster is pregnant according to Us Magazine and due in April 2015. I thought it was too quiet on the Bates Baby front lately! http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-mom ... d-20141811

First time poster I know that Erin Paine suffered a miscarriage at the beginning of the year, but since then we have not had any Bates Baby announcements. Alyssa has been married since what? May? and Erin now a year. Do you think either of them are using NFP or did they just not inherit their mother's super fertility? I don't remember either of them saying they would leave their family size up to God like the Duggar children have.

It seemed like there should be a thread for Alyssa and John's wedding, since there were separate ones for Zach/Whitney and Chad/Erin, and I know there's the "When is Alyssa Bates' wedding again?" thread so mods feel free to combine if this is repetitive. Anyway - only one day away! I started looking around different instagram hashtags but so far I only found these photos from the Bates family fan page on Facebook, that include Whitney's burgeoning little bump:

On Saturday, July 12th at 10pm EST. I'll be taping it. I find it very interesting that her wedding is going to air on a major network and the Duggar's only have their weddings on TLC. I bet Boob is just over this whole thing. You know he thinks he's superior to all of fundie land.

The showers look like they were nicer than the wedding... Some of the FL hostesses are wearing pants/shorts! I like the cake tied with a red bow. Kelly also said they are home in Florida now.

http://gb.pinterest.com/bizzybeebates/ is following Jill Duggar and Alyssa Bates. It's not Erin's. Could it be Michael's? Or is the username (bizzybeebates) just a coincidence? Judging by the colours (turquoise and pink) I would hazard a guess at Alyssa, but she already has a pinterest account, and why would she follow herself? Also, this bizzybee person is followed by Janny Nalon, who follows Jill Duggar and it appears that Jill was using that person's account. Any Pinterest detectives out there who can figure it out?

Seriously, when is it again? I feel like Kelly has been keeping mum on this one. Where are the sappy love poems and photos and registries?

Kelly recently responded to a question on her blog regarding John and Alyssa. She responded with the following: I'm assuming an engagement is around the corner if Alyssa is already planning for a spring wedding. Figured a new thread should be created for this. I still don't get why the rush to marriage when she's just 19 years old. I wouldn't be surprised if John pops the question come Valentines Day, however.

According to their web site, the wedding will be held at the Salem Baptist Church in Knoxville. A "light dessert" reception will follow. What the heck is a light dessert reception? Wedding cake and cookies? I thought since she was marring into a political family, they might have a little nicer reception. Even Erin had baloney on a stick. Is this the same church where Erin was married?

Today John asked Alyssa (to/in/for a?) courtship while at Rock City TN. I'm sure there will be a website update soon

Well, well, well, how the Bates have become a little progressive in their courtship. http://www.pinterest.com/alyssabates6/