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As I've been reading about ATI and IBLP, I've come across a family called the McKims, Kenneth and Julie McKim, who have 13 children and used to be the poster family for IBLP before the duggars. After 1992 they dropped off the radar and were no longer held up as such, apparently quite a few of their children ran away. Does anybody know anything about this family?
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Hey all! I've been working hard on making Youtube videos lately. I talk about different subjects and people that relate to fundamentalism while doing my makeup (GRWM = Get ready with me). Like the Pearls, Bill Gothard, the Duggars, etc. My goal is to be educational plus funny. I inject a lot of memes and jokes in the videos and I like to manipulate clips I find of my subjects online. I am shooting all of these on my iphone and I'm learning to use the editing software, so sometimes the videos can be rough at times. I wanted to share my videos with FJ because this was the forum that really got
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Fundamentalism is Fundamentally Wrong [video from former fundie]
ZingerWinger posted a topic in ATI/IBLP - Gothardism & Bill Gothard
So after ten years, I finally gathered the courage to make a video about my experiences in a Fundamental Baptist Church (which closely followed Bill Gothard's principles). If you have any questions feel free to ask, I'm just trying to get my story out there. After ten years I finally feel like I can talk about this. It's harder than I thought it would be... but worth it. -
Here to Divulge... Lindvall, Pearl, VF, Phillips, Gothard, ATI/IBLP
Nolongeroppressed8.4 posted a topic in ATI/IBLP - Gothardism & Bill Gothard
I grew up in IT. All of it. A lot of it. I’m almost 35. And I am finding FJ healing as I work through a lot of crap. Here to share. I do have to be careful....- 58 replies
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Do you think BUB should be canceled?
formergothardite posted a topic in Quiver Full of Bateseseseses
A thread like this was started in the Duggar section so I decided to start one here. Does anyone think BUB should stay on the air? If so, why? I personally think it needs to be canceled and they all need to fade into obscurity. ~Reality TV is not good for children. ~This show provides a platform to normalize high ranking members of a hateful, dangerous cult along with normalizing their beliefs. ~It gives them money and makes it appear to them that "God" is blessing them for believing and teaching awful things.- 34 replies
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IBLP Calls Cops on Bill Gothard for Trespass
formergothardite posted a topic in ATI/IBLP - Gothardism & Bill Gothard
It is time for IBLP"s family conference! Gil Bates has a video where he encourages families to skip their regular vacation and instead spend their money on the IBLP family conference. There are sessions on: ~preparing your family for persecution ~being ready for death ~the rewards you will get in heaven ~not being for sale at any price ~real science confirms the Bible is true and much, much more. Gil and Kelly do the opening welcome followed by the Paines(best know as Erin Bates Paine's inlaws) giving a greeting. Gil and Kelly are teaching five of the session -
IBLP has a video up of Gil trying to guilt people into spending their family vacation money on an IBLP event. Instead of taking a vacation with your family, come to one of the IBLP family conferences! He promises that it will change your life and your family will talk about it all year*. So don't take your kids on a regular vacation, take them to an IBLP family conference! The boys have fun and the girls get to sit inside and memorize the Bible! Yeah! Your kids will totally prefer this to an actual vacation. Gil is totally not saying this because he wants your money to help finance his lifest
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Guess what I found thrift-store shopping today? That's right, A GOTHARD BOOK
dawbs posted a topic in Wide World of Snark
It is filled with....such lovely stuff. It's a kinda pretty book. And it won't fall into the wrong (right?) hands at least now. I'm skimming over it to find what sorts of horrors are buried inside, since I've just started.- 10 replies
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Dillards 48: Proselytising Prick Preaching to People
samurai_sarah posted a topic in Derrick and Jill (Duggar) Dillard Archive
Continue from here: ETA: Edited for auto-correct gone wrong.- 525 replies
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I searched but didn't see where this movie had been discussed. It is a documentary about IBLP. I can't wait to see it. The movie comes out in 2017.
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This was just posted by Buzzfeed. One of the people profiled was raised in ATI.
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Big Sandy Family Conference April 2017
Palimpsest posted a topic in ATI/IBLP - Gothardism & Bill Gothard
Not sure if this was posted before, but Big Sandy is scheduled for April. I was just browsing the offerings and mugshots of our usual suspects (Gil and OfGil Bates, Jim Bob and OfJimBob Duggar, the incomparable Davy Waller, and little Gabe Cleaver Cleator) when who should pop up but Steve and OfSteve Maxwell! I don't remember them being on the schedule before: http://familyconferences.org/events/family-conference/big-sandy/- 203 replies
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Big sandy starts tomorrow! Fj faves lead the way with sessions such as David Waller's "who are you?" and Gil and Kelly bates' "beware of pitching your tent towards sodom". Interesting to see that the duggars are excluded from the schedule entirely but the bates are presenting multiple sessions each day. (And I wonder - are the bates on the schedule that much bc they are popular or bc ati is scraping the bottom of the barrel for speakers?) http://familyconferences.org/events/family-conference/big-sandy-2016/
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Telos (IBLP college) Shutting Down
funyuns_and_fundies posted a topic in ATI/IBLP - Gothardism & Bill Gothard
I was on the website of Telos, the unaccredited "college" run by IBLP and I noticed it says it is closing due to "finanicial stability." http://telos.edu/ It appears to me that IBLP is attempting to rebrand itself and seperate themselves from their Gothard era as much as possible. They have done away with a lot of programs from that time.- 19 replies
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In Australia: IBLP sells; media call a cult a cult
MamaJunebug posted a topic in ATI/IBLP - Gothardism & Bill Gothard
IBLP is selling at least part of its real estate in Oz, and if that isn't good news enough, a newspaper report calls the group a cult, describes the Duggars' show as "canned" (aka "cancelled") and also mentions the peccadilloes of Josh & Mr. G!!! ETAsk, don't need to hide the image? I'm sorry if so! It's bunktime for me *and* my phone, I'm loopy.- 28 replies
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The Bates before they were so shiny and perfect including grifting
formergothardite posted a topic in Quiver Full of Bateseseseses
So I dug through the Wayback machine and finally found the old Bates blog. We have looked before and I'm not sure why we weren't able to find it. Wow, what a difference! One of the biggest things that stands out is that in the picture on top, Kelly is never holding a baby or even standing near a baby. They also bring up ATI and IBLP a lot. Here are some of the Bates going to Romania with Gothard to try to save Gypsies. And there are some super awkward Zack's courtship pictures. Poor girl was clearly never really into him. https://web.archive.org/web/20111206095054/http://gilbatesf- 434 replies
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Bill Gothard, God, and sexual molestation
Et Moi posted a topic in ATI/IBLP - Gothardism & Bill Gothard
Also, allegations of sex trafficking cover-up. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/01/06/new-charges-allege-religious-leader-who-has-ties-to-the-duggars-sexually-abused-women/- 467 replies
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Nobel Call Organization. KonMari Is safe.
MamaJunebug posted a topic in ATI/IBLP - Gothardism & Bill Gothard
Organization! KonMari is safe. http://www.noblecall.org/weblog/2011/02/27/organization-development-in-the-home-video/ I'm not a Duggar watcher but folks say this character is the one who asked Jimbob to put the end of a piece of rebar on his Adam's apple (that's not a euphemism). Anyway. As a naturally disorganized person, I'm always on the prowl for tips on getting things set up for tidiness, economy & efficiency. When this part of Rebar Man's website showed up, I had to watch. I will be tickled to read any comments you all have, and now I lend my own. Poor Mrs. Rebar- 2 replies
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Since this crosses Quivers I figured I put it here. So we know that the older Bateseses girls went to JTTH and that the oldest Duggar girls did as well. Also Pris went and I think Suze Waller. Did Anna go? I think I saw mentioned that Ashley Sayler went. And I think we've seen pictures of at least one Paine girl there. I'm wondering about the next group of kids. Has Joy Anna gone? Will the young girls go? In 10 years will there be a pick of the lost girls with Callie and Addallee at JTTH? On a related note, we've seen one Duggar boy after another go off to Alert. Have any of t
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FJ points and laughs at IBLP basic & advanced seminar texts
halcionne posted a topic in ATI/IBLP - Gothardism & Bill Gothard
It took me a year to spend my Raptureversary winnings from 2014. Finally I decided it would be fitting to spend them on Gothard literature and took the plunge. I have in my possession Research in Principles of Life Basic Seminar Textbook and Research in Principles of Life: Advanced Seminar Textbook. I bought used and saved the difference, which left me with enough money to buy a used video game I've been pining for, too. I got the books a few weeks ago with the hope of mocking sharing them with Free Jinger and was immediately discouraged. C/P from another thread, to save me some ty -
Gothard headquarters downsizing, moving to Big Sandy
HereticHick posted a topic in ATI/IBLP - Gothardism & Bill Gothard
Mods, please merge if someone has already posted about this. Staddon Family blog announces that IBLP is downsizing & moving from Chicago to Big Sandy. staddonfamily.com/2015/09/14/texas-ho/ The decision has been made. Last week it was officially announced that IBLP will be relocating its headquarters from Chicago to Big Sandy, Texas. The trends over the last 15 years have shown that the ministry has more properties than it currently needs, and after much prayer and consideration it was decided that it would be a financially strategic move to consolidate -
Negligence Lawsuit Filed Against IBLP
love2scrap posted a topic in ATI/IBLP - Gothardism & Bill Gothard
It's about time. recoveringgrace.org/2015/10/negligence-lawsuit-filed-against-iblp/ Mods, how do we break links in the new format? Removing the front portion doesnt break the link like it used to.- 66 replies
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If you have spent any time on Free Jinger, you will likely recognize the acronyms ATI and IBLP. This is the fundamentalist ministry created by Bill Gothard, an unmarried man who believes such things as: There has long been talk about both Bill Gothard and his brother committing acts of sexual misconduct with female employees and interns. As long ago as 1980, Gothard admitted to "moral failures" with some of the staff. We at FJ have long awaited some kind of action to be taken against this unmarried man who had unlimited access to vulnerable women who are taught from birth that if a ma
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Sarah Palin and Bill Gothard connection
Sprocket posted a topic in ATI/IBLP - Gothardism & Bill Gothard
So I'm reading The Rogue by Joe McGinnis (sorry, it's on my Kindle, so I don't have page numbers). A lot of criticism surrounded his book because he moved in next door to Sarah Palin on Lake Lucille, which he addresses. Joe McGinnis has been a favorite of mine for as long as I can remember because he wrote 'Fatal Vision' and I'm a super true-crime buff -- and growing up near Ft. Bragg and having my dad stationed there a few years after the murders of Collette, Kimberley, and Kristen MacDonald, it was talked about quite a lot during my childhood. I have actual pictures of the home from circa 20- 26 replies
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Inside The Duggar-Cult' Gothard getting more negitive news
doggie posted a topic in ATI/IBLP - Gothardism & Bill Gothard
nothing really new but it is good gothard is getting more negative news. http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/ ... followers/ In recent years, the Duggars have become the poster family for wholesome values. But behind the 19 Kids & Counting family's strict God-loving guidelines is a controversial and ultra-conservative foundation: the Institute of Basic Life Principles. Now, in an exclusive investigation, RadarOnline.com has uncovered testimony from former followers of the IBLP, who warn that it is a "cult" that will do the famous family's children more harm than good!