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  1. I read comments are really slamming the photographer. How was the photographer to know what happened? It's also interesting the mom was an active soldier. http://jezebel.com/woman-who-commissioned-ghost-photos-with-dead-daughte-1768422467
  2. Politically he seems to have focused on different things than Ammon Bundy & co but I see a similar instability. Very anti-government, despite trying to run for office. He apparently had trouble paying his bills and got a lot of people to go along with his i'm a victim-no rules concern me- all cops are bad mentality. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3462650/Deputy-killed-two-wounded-arrived-serve-eviction-notice-house-Occupy-Denver-activist.html#ixzz41BaQ40cU Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/sencanWirth/ http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29556652/park-county-sheriffs-deputy-killed-two-others-wounded http://www.9news.com/news/crime/suspect-fatally-shot-fought-foreclosure/54860783 http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2016/02/24/man-who-killed-deputy-acquitted-94-fort-collins-homicide/80880472/ http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/park-county-shooting-suspect-martin-wirth-was-fighting-foreclosure-of-park-county-homehttp://c3.thevoterguide.org/v/denver14/race-detail.do?id=13730097 http://www.680news.com/2016/02/24/shooting-kills-colorado-sheriffs-deputy-wounds-2-others/ http://kdvr.com/2016/02/24/bailey-shooting-what-we-know-about-the-suspect-so-far/ http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29558405/slain-park-county-deputy-was-high-school-football http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/park-county-shooting-suspect-martin-wirth-was-arrested-in-1994-in-connection-to-chess-match-murder He already killed someone before and was arrested for DUI a couple of times and an AA worker got a restraining order against him but he was loud enough in the Occupy Denver movement that there are plenty of people on their FB taking his side and saying it's totally justified to murder cops if they do their jobs and evict you. https://www.facebook.com/occupydenver/ He says the police drew guns on him for "attempting to buy car insurance" but apparently he led them for a chase so I think it's far more likely that's what the guns were for. Also because it was known that he's a violent whackjob. No one seems to know what he did for a living although he claims to be a space engineer. http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29558336/suspected-bailey-shooter-fought-system-words-and-politics TLDR: Martin Wirth who killed someone over losing a chess game, threatened someone else, drove drunk, ran for senate in Colorado 2014, sued lots of defendants for his eviction (even the governor) and ranted on FB and Occupy Denver demonstrations against the police, shot three deputies. One died, one is in critical condition. He was killed at the scene. Good riddance, JMO, but some are saying he was a sweet man who will be dearly missed and they never knew him to be unstable and he was the victim here. I just don't understand people sometimes...
  3. This ain't TV drama folks...this ish is real and the news just dropped today. He can't be retried, but...here's to keeping an eye on the development. Video at the link. http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/04/us/oj-simpson-property-knife/index.html
  4. http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/africa/egypt-toddler-sentenced/index.html
  5. Not sure if this is the right forum but must share my outrage!! The mayor of Port of Spain in Trinidad is (thankfully) coming under international scrutiny for his victim blaming comments prior to Carnival when he essentially said women's outfits and lewdness durung the season led to their being assualted. Comments which he then reiterated after a female Japanese visitor who played mas with a local band was found murdered on Ash Wednesday. Hopefully the misogynistic prick will lose his position over this. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/12/outrage-in-trinidad-after-mayor-blames-carnival-killing-on-dancers-lewd-behavior/ I thought I put this in Quiverful of Misogyny! Sorry mods!
  6. He was “at the gym” and apparently there is security camera proof. I find it strange that a pastor-- no matter how fundie lite-- would fail to even mention in his statement that their unborn child was taken, too. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3316583/I-lost-best-friend-Pastor-husband-shares-tribute-pregnant-wife-28-shot-dead-home-intruder-police-clear-family-involvement.html
  7. Shooting in San Bernardino, CA - possibly 3 shooters still at large - suspicious package left behind
  8. On December 9, 2007, 24-year-old Matthew Murray (pictured here with his niece) went on a killing spree in Colorado, opening fire in the early morning at a Youth With A Mission (YWAM) training center in Arvada and then later in the afternoon at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs. His spree left 4 people dead and 5 wounded, following which he committed suicide. Matthew was 1 of 2 sons born to Colorado neurologist Ronald Murray and his wife Loretta Murray. Matthew's family was a deeply religious Christian household and he and his younger brother Christopher were homeschoooled since 1990 through high school graduation using Bill Gothard's "Wisdom Booklets." His family attended Faith Bible Chapel in Arvada, a church noted for its Christian Zionism beliefs. The Murray family were members of Kevin Swanson's Christian Home Educators of Colorado, and Christopher was part of a homeschool graduation ceremony held by CHEC in 2005. After being homeschooled all the way through high school, Matthew attended Arapahoe Community College and Colorado Christian University for brief periods. In 2002, he attended a YWAM missionary training program held at the same Arvada facility he attacked. He did not complete the training, however, due to several reasons: one being health problems that prevented him from doing the requisite field work; others being "strange behavior" such as talking about "hearing voices" and performing"dark rock songs" from Linkin Park that made co-workers feel "pretty scared." (Court records indicate that the Arvada attack was at least partly inspired by his anger about being expelled.) Matthew was alleged to be either gay or bisexual and experienced guilt over his orientation. He felt he had to justify it through pointing to the hypocrisy of evangelical leaders like Ted Haggard. He struggled with depression, took Prozac, and was seeing a therapist. He believed his parents were simply using him as a religious weapon or tool, saying that "The only reason [my mom] had me was because she wanted a body/soul she could train into being the next Billy Graham." He claimed to suffer psychological and other forms of abuse at the hands of his parents growing up, taking particular aim at how Gothard's teachings influenced his family, at one point writing the following online: "Me, I remember the beatings and the fighting and yelling and insane rules and all the Bill Gothard (expletive) and then trancing out . (expletive) . I'm still tranced out." Gothard himself commented on the murders after the fact, saying that Matthew and his family only used his homeschooling curriculum for "several years" and that his curriculum is "all built around the Sermon on the Mount." Gothard added that Matthew's problem was that "he rejected the curriculum,"pointing to Matthew's love of rock music. "The music we listen to is a powerful force," Gothard suggested. While Matthew's family did not regularly attend New Life Church, his mother Loretta considered Ted Haggard - the disgraced evangelical celebrity who founded and pastored New Life - to be her "favorite pastor." The Murray family gave money to New Life and Matthew and his mother went to a conference at the church 4 years prior to the attack. On the day of the attacks, Matthew drove to the YWAM facility in Arvada in the middle of the night. After asking if he could stay the night at the facility (and being denied), Matthew pulled out his guns and opened fire. He killed 24-year-old Tiffany Johnson and 26-year-old Philip Crouse, as well as wounded 24-year-old Dan Griebenow and 22-year-old Charlie Blanch. Matthew then drove to New Life Church. Around 1 pm, Matthew began his second attack, spraying bullets at church members leaving after church service. He struck and killed two sisters, 18-year-old Stephanie Works and 16-year-old Rachel Works - who happened to be homeschooled themselves. He also wounded the sisters' father, 51-year-old David Works, as well as 40-year-old Judy Purcell and 59-year-old Larry Bourbannais. Matthew's shooting rampage finally came to a halt when Jeanne Assam, a volunteer security guard at the church, managed to shoot and wound Matthew. Matthew then shot and killed himself. In May 2008, Matthew's parents appeared on James Dobson's radio show. His father Ronald said they had "no idea he had ownership of weapons or any plan," blaming the shootings on his son's "depth of bitterness" about his Christian upbringing. That "bitterness" was expressed by Matthew himself in his handwritten "Letter to God" found in his car after the attacks. In the letter, Matthew wrote, "The more I read your stupid book, the more I pray, the more I reach out to Christians for help, the more hurt and abused I get." Following Matthew's rampage and suicide, Kevin Swanson (Director of CHEC, which the Murray family were members of) did a radio broadcast on the situation entitled, "Should Pastors Pack?" http://hsinvisiblechildren.org/2014/03/ ... ew-murray/ Sorry If we have already discussed it !
  9. http://www.courant.com/community/cheshi ... ory?page=1 Good article. Gothard's comments made me feel ill.
  10. lemurknits

    Chilean Cult Sacrifices Baby

    http://gawker.com/cult-leader-on-the-ru ... -482746088 A Chilean cult sacrificed a baby because they thought it was the Anti-Christ. How utterly disgusting.
  11. Amazon has a free book today - Apparent Danger – The Pastor of America’s First Megachurch and the Texas Murder Trial of the Decade in the 1920s by David Stokes. Not sure if it fits better here or in Snark, but it might be interesting and you can't beat the price. http://www.amazon.com/Apparent-Danger-- ... ent+danger
  12. debrand

    Cult In NC Murders Two People

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -sisk.html http://www.gazette.com/articles/leader- ... woman.html Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/leader- ... z26iwsfdxh
  13. Why do we get the killers? where in the bible does it say it is ok to not try to heal your child? to neglect them till they die? hopefully god will not let these assholes into heaven. But I am sure they think they are doing gods will. Wonder if they will vote for santorum?b Sad part is this is anotehr church no the usual one that kills their kids. Two in oregon is scary. EUGENE, Ore. (AP) - Lane County sheriff's officers say the mother and stepfather of a Creswell, Ore., teen who died last December have been arrested on second-degree manslaughter charges.Lt. Spence Slater said Brandi Bellew and Russel Bellew were arrested Friday in the Dec. 20 death of 16-year-old Austin Sprout. The sheriff's office says his parents declined to seek any medical attention for the boy, "reportedly due to their religious beliefs." He had been ill for more than a week.Obituary information provided by the family indicates the parents are affiliated with the General Assembly and Church of the First Born.The teen's cause of death has not been released but Slater said medical professionals have indicated the condition was "highly treatable."Under Oregon law, second-degree manslaughter includes causing a dependent person's death by neglect or maltreatment, including failure to provide adequate medical care.It was not immediately known whether the Bellews were represented by a lawyer.
  14. www.cnn.com/2012/01/31/world/asia/afgha ... hpt=hp_bn2 And his mother helped. Never mind the fact that it's the male's contribution to the pregnancy that determines the baby's gender... I'm officially depressed now.
  15. Near some friends of mine in Saint Louis, a 20-year-old mother has been charged with second-degree murder in the death of her 13-month-old son, who she hit repeatedly when he wouldn't stop crying. First, broken for the poor baby. Then, broken for my Junior who would've gladly taken that baby, he and his wife, so far inexplicably, not being able to have any of their own. And broken for the stupid, unprepared, tragic, ruined-life mother. And broken and raging at the Pearls and those who endorse them! What was the difference between beating a 6-month-old with plumbing line or a switch, and this mother's fatal blows? Oh, right, right -- they'd smirk, "She hit in anger, we nevvvvver hit in anger, and she was an unmarried, immoral woman." Bullshit! Hitting is hitting! And while the mother probably never heard of the Pearls or the Ezzos or the Duggars or others who "train" their infants, their poison is in print, online, talked about, endorsed, in-the-air everywhere. To be fair and rail at the other side: They are as responsible as people who reject adoption out-of-hand, rather than encourage unmarried, young, stressed-out, unprepared young couples to consider their baby's welfare, and not just their own need to "have someone who'll love me unconditionally" and/or a cute babyfriend/accessory. Flame away on the adoption bit, my tears are going to quench the fires. I'm going to be offline for most of the day, I'm not ignoring anybody's arguments. Just fyi. Unspeakable sorrow. And anger, frustration. God rest the baby's soul. God be merciful to the mother and those most devastated in her trail of damnable foolishness. http://stltoday.mycapture.com/mycapture ... ubAlbums=0
  16. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... le2207448/ trial has begun
  17. This is horrible. Warning for disturbing violence and hateful language at the link. It seems beyond ridiculous that this happened in 2011. We are not over or past racism. I wonder if these teenagers' parents modeled racism, or tolerated it, or if someone else in their lives inclined them towards it. It seems like it had to come from somewhere, I don't know. I feel so terrible for the victim's family. The murder was filmed by a security camera. http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/06 ... index.html
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