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  1. DomWackTroll

    John Piper Gun Controversy

    John Piper wrote an article in which he disagrees with Jerry Falwell Jr. on having/carrying guns… https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/12/23/john-piper-why-i-disagree-with-jerry-falwell-jr-on-christians-and-guns/ …and you can imagine how well it’s going over: http://sharperiron.org/filings/122215/31602 http://www.puritanboard.com/showthread.php/88541-John-Piper-Guns-Self-Defense http://baylyblog.com/blog/2015/12/john-get-your-gun Piper is unmanly, Piper is a wimp, Piper is a heretic, etc. I will say, though, that I thought one part of it-- which actually has nothing to do with guns-- was kinda cray: Maybe don't even call the police because Jesus.
  2. A shooting at a Wisconsin mall resulted from a dispute among several young men. THank goodness it wasn't worse, but I could imagine the fear when shots got fired..One shopper reported they ran into the nearest store. When will people learn to handle things without violence? http://news.yahoo.com/gunfire-erupts-inside-wisconsin-mall-busy-shopping-day-230747638.html
  3. Shooting in San Bernardino, CA - possibly 3 shooters still at large - suspicious package left behind
  4. Spoiler warnings, natch. Random thoughts about The Purge: Anarchy: I liked this film more than the first installment, which followed an upper-class family ensconced in their high-tech, uber-fortified (or so they thought) McMansion on the night of The Purge. Check out this clip of their lockdown procedure here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbUTbqwKtEE. For those of you who are unfamiliar with this franchise, The Purge is a high-concept near-future horror franchise which centers around an annual event called The Purge, a 12-hour period where all crime, including murder, is officially sanctioned by the new US government, styled as "The New Founding Fathers of America." And, yeah. If you haven't guessed it already, these New Founding Fathers are way into Gawd, Guns, and Gore--not necessarily in that order. So, basically the films envision a near-future (they're set in the 2020s) right-wing takeover of the US. The annual Purge was instituted after an economic collapse in the US, and by Constitutional Amendment allows citizens to "Release the Beast" and act out their most base impulses during this 12-hour period, and this supposedly benefits society by creating an extremely low crime rate for the rest of the year, and almost nil unemployment. Plus, several other benefits which remain a bit amorphous and should probably be better conceptualized by director/writer James DeMonaco to tighten things up. I hope he'll get right on that for the 3rd installment. Fortunately, I can suspend my disbelief, since these types of near-future dystopias are so totally my jam. Anyway, part 2 takes us from the tony protected neighborhoods of the privileged that was the focus of Part 1, to the every-man-for-himself free-for-all on the gritty streets of working-class and poor Los Angeles. As our window onto this world, the film follows two groups of people who are left shit out of luck and unprotected on the LA streets when The Purge starts. Fortunately for them, they hook up with one bad ass *shutyomouf* (and who is pretty hot IMHO) who ends up protecting them--although he's pretty unconvinced at first and finds these n00bs a huge burden. Plus, they're interfering with his whole reason for being out and ready to Purge (a sub-plot that isn't related to my main point in this entry, so I'm ignoring it). There are some predictable moments, and some twists. Overall, though, I think the film makes some relevant social commentary. **America's gun culture: Duh. This is the huge no-brainer, and the film almost pretty much beats you over the head with this. Guns of all types and calibers permeate the film, and if you haven't already guessed, this is a super-violent flick, so be warned. I don't usually like violence for violence's sake, but I get that this is a dark satire and is purposefully over-the-top in its violent moments. Interestingly, the vast majority of the explicit/graphic violence is gun-related. For example, while you see a lot of people walking around with machetes, we don't see bodies being hacked up. In fact, it's really interesting how the filmmakers prompt the expectation of the more exotic machete violence, and then subvert those expectations by focusing almost exclusively on the more mundane and real-life gun violence. And I think this is strategic, especially with the fairly recent Sandy Hook probably having been on the writer/director's radar during this movie's creation. There are a few stabbity-stab moments, but these scenes are always from a distance. Where the film lingers in close-up on violence, and savors the blood spatter is when the bullets start flying. In true dystopian fashion, The Purge: Anarchy takes the US's current obsession with guns, and the NRA's rhetoric of "Arm everyone to the teeth" out to their most extreme and logical conclusion: a society where one day a year, everyone just blasts the Hell out of each other. Uh...no thanks. **The rhetoric of the New Founding Fathers of America: Intertwines religion, violence, class/race antagonism, and patriotism in a simplistic way strategically designed to rile up the average working Joe or Jane--and it's mostly Joes who are out Purging. The messaging is very right-wing dog whistle-y, and unfortunately reminiscent of current sound bites that we're getting from GOP candidates such as Trump and Carson. It's amplified here to level eleventy, but it works as social commentary. And makes this film seem not that far displaced into the future or the improbable. **The metaphor of the rich using up (literally, to death) the poor: Part of the ultimate goal is for population control of "undesireables," which means those who are perceived to be a drain on the social safety net. Meaning, of course, the poors and/or the browns/blacks/non-whites. One scene features an old African-American man with severe health problems, and who is too poor to afford his medicine, making himself a "martyr" to a rich uber-white family whose patriarch resembles Mitt Romney, complete with Blonde Stepford Wife and Shiny Kids with dazzling Chiclet smiles: Oh, and being a "martyr" to such a family basically means they have a safe way to Purge behind their protected walls in exchange for transferring $100,000 into the surviving family's bank account (his family are in no way complicit and are devastated to find out he has made this decision). So, also an indictment against the US healthcare system that passively kills those who can't afford its benefits. **A quasi-Hunger Games/Hostel/The Running Man entertainment extravaganza where the rich pay poor Purgers to abduct people off the streets and haul them into an uptown auction where the highest bidder pays for the privilege to hunt and kill these hapless victims in a controlled area: More metaphorical commentary on the rich taking advantage of the poor, with a subtext that it's the poors's fault they are in that position. All propped up with a healthy dose of references to Gawd! and 'Murica. **Carmello and his fellow revolutionaries: A predominantly African-American group of anarchists/revolutionaries who protest against The Purge and try to get their fellow citizens to wake up to the fact that the NFFA is simply using frustrated disadvantaged people's anger against themselves as a convenient weapon to thin out their own numbers and make them a more compliant (and less costly) population. Shades of the current #blacklivesmatter movement? Black Panthers? The austerity movement to eliminate social programs and "the welfare state?" Altogether, I enjoyed this film and felt that the social commentary, while sometimes blatant, was thoughtful and relevant. And the whole thing was wrapped up in a package of characters that I started to care about. I'm looking forward to Part 3, which will be a prequel and will take us back to events surrounding the very first Purge.
  5. At least Jed doesn't look gangsta like JD. http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/y ... ar-BBhATs7
  6. SassyPants

    Shooting Range....

    Is this the venue featured in the Duggar's show? Controversial Owner Declares Her Store a ‘Muslim-Free’ Zone; Find Out Her Reasoning September 29, 2014 By Greg Campbell ZMorganThe Western world is at war with radical Islam. While we are constantly reassured by politicians that try to remain diplomatic that Islam is a religion of peace, we cannot deny that there are many within the Muslim faith that practice a brand of Islam committed to violence. To deny this fact is simply to deny realities of the world. Of course, not all Muslims are violent and should not be treated as such. However, one store, The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range in Hot Springs, Arkansas, has declared itself a “Muslim-free zone.†Citing safety concerns and an extensive history of violent actions taken by Muslims in the U.S. and abroad, range owner Jan Morgan posted on her website a ten-point explanation for her decision to ban Muslims from her establishment and clarification as to her supposed legal reasoning. While many might view the policy as extreme, it should be noted that the establishment appears to serve as a purely private establishment. Of course, this fact will likely not deter the radicalized Department of Justice from forcing Morgan to reverse her policies or otherwise face legal consequences as Obama’s DOJ has, in recent years, tried to force the owners of many establishments to violate their consciences by facilitating homosexual weddings. Morgan claims that the ATF has asked her in the past to exercise judgment in refusing service to people who she feels might be unstable or a threat in general. This broad leeway, Morgan claims, offers her the authority to deny service broadly to Muslims. Bearingarms.com backs-up this assertion and notes, “She brings up a very valid point that gun stores and ranges have both a legal and moral obligation to ensure the safety of their patrons. Because of this, they may refuse service to anyone they deem to be under the influence, mentally unstable, or otherwise a potential threat to themselves, or others. FFLs are afforded a great deal of latitude in this regard, as the federal government would rather err on the side of caution.†Morgan offers her lengthy ten-point reasoning on her website: I officially declare my business, The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range, a MUSLIM FREE ZONE . . . 1) The Koran, which I have read and studied thoroughly and (which all muslims align themselves with), contains 109 verses commanding hate, murder and terror against all human beings who refuse to submit or convert to Islam. Read those verses of violence here. 2) My life has been threatened repeatedly by muslims who are angry that I have studied their koran and have, over the past two years, been exposing the vileness of the Koran and its murderous directives. 3) * The barbaric act of beheading an innocent American in Oklahoma by a muslim * the Boston bombings(by muslims) * the Fort Hood mass shooting (by a muslim) that killed 13 people and injured over 30 people * and the murder of 3000 innocent people (by muslims) on 9/11 This is more than enough loss of life on my home soil at the hands of muslims to substantiate my position that muslims can and will follow the directives in their Koran and kill here at home. 4) Because the nature of my business involves firearms and shooting firearms in an enclosed environment, my patrons are not comfortable being around muslims who align themselves with a religion that clearly commands hate, murder, and violence against all non muslims. Therefore many of my patrons are uncomfortable around Muslims with guns. (can you blame them?) 5) My range rents and sells guns to my patrons. Why would I want to rent or sell a gun and hand ammunition to someone who aligns himself with a religion that commands him to kill me? 6) * Muslims, who belong to and, or, support ISIS, are threatening to kill innocent Americans. * Muslims, who belong to or support AL Qaeda, are threatening to kill innocent Americans. * Muslims who belong to or support HAMAS are threatening to kill innocent Americans. See a common thread here? 7) I not only have the right to refuse service but a RESPONSIBILITY to provide a safe environment for people to shoot and train on firearms. I can and have turned people away if I sense they are under the influence of alcohol or mind altering drugs. I have a federal firearms license… The ATF informed us when we received the license that if we feel any reason for concern about selling someone a firearm, even sense that something is not right about an individual, or we are concerned about that persons mental state, even if they pass a background check, we do not have to sell that person a gun. In other words, a federal agency has given us this kind of discretion for service based on the nature of the business. I can and have turned people away if I sense an issue with their mental state. So… its difficult to imagine how the DOJ could have issues with this when ATF gave us this discretion. 8) I have no way of looking at Islam other than as a theocracy, not a religion. Islam is undoubtedly the union of political, legal, and religious ideologies. In other words law, religion and state are forged together to form what Muslims refer to as “The Nation of Islam.†Once again it is given the sovereign qualities of a nation with clerics in the governing body and Sharia law all in one. This is a Theocracy, not a religion. The US Constitution does not protect a theocracy. The 1st Amendment is very specific about protecting the rights of individuals from the government, as it concerns the practice of religions, not theocracies. It clearly differentiates between government and religion. Again protecting the individual’s religious beliefs and practices from (the state) government. In Islam religion and state are one. We are a Nation governed by laws, or the law of the land the U.S. Constitution. We are not a Nation that is governed by religion, politicians or clerics. How then, can anyone say that, the practice of Islam is protected by the U.S. Constitution? The muslim brotherhood has a documented plan for the destruction of America from within, discovered by our own government during a raid of MB operatives in America. In addition, I am very cognizant of the civilization jihad under way in my country by American muslims. In a number of states Muslims, through our legal system, are trying to force us to accept Sharia Law over Constitutional law. I do not wish to do business with people who stand against the Constitution and are fighting to replace it. 9) Islam allows Muslims to kill their own children, (honor killing) if the behavior of those children embarrasses or dishonors the family name. ( did you know that dating outside of the faith is justification for murdering their daughters and this has already occurred on American soil?) Why would I want people (who believe its okay to murder their own children), be in the presence of other children? My patrons often bring their kids to the range to teach them to shoot. I am responsible for providing a safe environment for those children to learn gun safety and shooting sports. 10) In the 14 hundred year history of Islam, muslims have murdered over 270 million people. Not all muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists in the world right now are muslim. Since you can’t determine by visual assessment, which ones will kill you and which ones will not, I am going to go with the line of thought that ANY HUMAN BEING who would either knowingly or unknowingly support a “religion†that commands the murder of all people who refuse to submit or convert to that religion, is not someone I want to know or do business with. I hold adults accountable for the religion they align themselves with. In summary, I not only have the right, but a responsibility to provide a safe environment for my customers. I do not believe my decision is religious discrimination because I do not classify islam as a religion.. It is a theocracy/terrorist organization that hides behind the mask of religion in order to achieve its mission of world domination. People who shoot at my range come from all religious backgrounds… some are atheists… I do not care about their religious beliefs. I care about the safety of my customers who come to shoot here. The government allows businesses to ban me from entering their business with my gun because the property owner feels uncomfortable or wants to provide a “safe†environment for their patrons which is in clear violation of my 2nd Amendment right to bear arms, so… I should be ale to deny service to people on the same premise. Can my government really force me to invite someone who had threatened to kill me, into my home or business? I will do whatever is necessary to provide a safe environment for my customers, even at the cost of the increased threats and legal problems this decision will likely provoke. Jan Morgan- owner / The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range
  7. toejamflipflop

    Gun Toting Jessa

    I bet BEN SEEWALD would love to put Jessa in a pair of daisy dukes and a crop top with push up bra while she models that gun she is toting. The more I watch Seewald on the Duggar Circus the more I can't stand him. He is very immature and acts goofy. Jessa is becoming my least favorite too. Isn't she defrauding by using the Seewald name before she is even engaged let alone married. Thats what bugs me about Jill too but I'll give her a pass because I love her and Derick and think they are right for each other. I am wondering if JimBob and Michelle belong to a Christian Survivalist group. A couple of times when TLC showed the pantry I thought I saw some Survivalist foods in buckets and some freeze dried meals in boxes on the shelves. Plus the male Duggars go to that mens camp to play with paintball guns.
  8. what is wrong with this picture? http://www.courier-journal.com/article/ ... ck_check=1 In an effort its spokesman has described as “outreach to rednecks,†the Kentucky Baptist Convention is leading “Second Amendment Celebrations,†where churches around the state give away guns as door prizes to lure in nonbelievers in hopes of converting them to Christ. As many as 1,000 people are expected at the next one, on Thursday at Lone Oak Baptist Church in Paducah, where they will be given a free steak dinner and the chance to win one of 25 handguns, long guns and shotguns. The goal is to “point people to Christ,†the church says in a flier. Chuck McAlister, an ex-pastor, master storyteller and former Outdoor Channel hunting show host who presides at the events as the Kentucky Baptist Convention’s team leader for evangelism, said 1,678 men made “professions of faith†at about 50 such events last year, most of them in Kentucky. In Louisville, he said, more than 500 people showed up on a snowy January day for a gun giveaway at Highview Baptist Church, and 61 made decisions to seek salvation. McAlister’s boss, Paul Chitwood, the Kentucky Baptist Convention’s executive director, said such results speak for themselves. “It’s been very effective,†he said in an interview. But other clergy question what guns and gun rights have to do with with sharing the Gospel.
  9. 0 kids n not countin

    Arndts & Gun Control

    Well, no surprise here, but this just gets to me James Arndt: Seth Arndt: And what about the "not so law abiding folks"?? Is it good to see that they'll have this same option too? I must stop looking at their blog for awhile, the Daddy Arndt's links to anti-abortion articles is so annoying, and what's even more annoying is the man boys responses to their daddy's postings, like they have a clue?
  10. snarkykitty

    CT School shooting

    Just wanted to start the thread since i didn't see one. A Newtown, CT elementary school has killed at least a dozen people, perhaps as many as 27 people, half reported to be children. News is still trickling, but if you pray, please pray, if you can offer positive thoughts, please do so, for peace and comfort for these families and this tiny New England town.
  11. On this day in 1989, a gunman killed 14 female college students because he hated feminism. Remember this, when the patriarchalists decry feminists as murderers for supporting abortion access and legality. http://archives.cbc.ca/society/crime_ju ... opics/398/
  12. gunman at large http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/cri ... rime-scene Can't you just wait to hear what Doug the Tool has to say about things this time?
  13. I wonder if we will see more home church problems in the future? Man accused of killing wife, wounding 2 pastors MIKE SCHNEIDER Published: Sep 18, 2011 5:21 PM LAKELAND, Fla. (AP) - Derrick Foster was kneeling in prayer when the gunman burst through the front door of Greater Faith Christian Center Church. He heard shooting, then screams. A former church member is accused of critically wounding the church's pastor and associate pastor as close to 20 people prayed between Sunday services. Authorities and relatives said Jeremiah Fogle shot his wife to death at his house, where he had started his own church, before continuing the rampage a block away at Greater Faith. Foster, a teacher in the ministry, got up and saw the man near the pulpit, turning around with the gun in his hand. "The first thing in my mind was, 'I have to take this gun away,'" he said. The Polk County sheriff's office said Foster and another man tackled the gunman and one of the church members struck the suspect in the head with a microphone stand. "He had a great grip on the gun," Foster said. "My plan was, as soon as he hit the floor, it would cause him to drop it. But he didn't drop it." He said it took three or four minutes of struggling with the gunman before he finally wrested the weapon away. The gunman had six live rounds in his pocket. "He was prepared to shoot even more," Sheriff Grady Judd said, adding that the people who tackled him "were really heroes." Pastor William Boss and associate pastor Carl Stewart were shot from behind, authorities said. Boss, who was shot in the head, and Stewart, shot three times in the back and ear, were in critical condition Sunday. No one else at the church was hurt. "Of all the places you should be safe, you should be safe in a house of worship," Judd said. "Especially on a Sunday morning." As deputies began investigating, a church member advised that they check on Fogle's wife, who lived with him a block away in a neighborhood of mobile homes, humble houses and industrial shops. Investigators and relatives say 56-year-old Theresa Fogle was found slain inside, apparently killed before her husband went to the church. "We don't know exactly why he went in to this mad rage," Judd said. Officials said Jeremiah Fogle would be charged with murder and could face additional charges. It was not immediately clear if he had an attorney. Theresa Fogle's sister Maria Beauford said the couple married in 2002 and ran a transportation business together. They had been members of Greater Faith Christian Center Church, where the shootings happened, but had started their own ministry out of their house and regularly hosted Sunday services, Beauford said. Beauford said she had never known Jeremiah Fogle to be violent toward her sister. He had been sick over the past year and had back surgery, and Theresa Fogle nursed him back to health, Beauford said. She said her brother-in-law was always smiling at family gatherings. "We have no idea what his motive was," she said. "We just have no idea." Jeremiah Fogle's older brother, Collis Fogle Jr., said that the couple seemed to have gotten along well. "It's so sad," he said. "I've been trying to call to figure out what went wrong." Neighbors said they often saw Fogle outside with his wife, mowing the lawn and pulling weeds. "They would cut up and laugh," Doreen Carroll, who lives a couple of blocks away, told The Ledger of Lakeland (http://bit.ly/rdCwfa). Several police cars and police tape blocked off the red-brick church and the street in front. Boss, the pastor, is a caring leader who has "a gift from God to speak," said Reese King, a friend of Boss and the sports director at a local radio station. ___ Associated Press writer Christine Armario contributed to this report from Miami.
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