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  1. Are there any things, positive or negative, that you've learnt from the Duggars? For me it is mostly negative things but also positive ones: Number 1: Jill: Be subtly bitchy and always try to steal the spotlight from your sisters and you will get anything you ever wished for!! Sadly, in real life, that is kind of true. Number 2: Buy used, save the difference! Yes, in the past I've always bought stuff that is on sale or used. In the past year or two I shifted more towards new, more fancy stuff and I think I should go back to buying used! It saves so much money. Number 3: Do not try to end up like the older Duggar girls did. (Exept when you're like Jill and you like the lifestyle, see 1.)
  2. . . . will be courting, married, or parents by November of next year? I get married a year and 6 days after Jessa and I'm curious how many of them will hit major milestones before then. My guesses: Courting - Jana and one of the older boys (possibly JD or Joseph) Married - Just Josh, Jill, and Jessa Parents - See above And as a bonus: I think Michelle is most likely to go completely crazy in the next year. She'll snap once Jill has Baby Dilly and start carrying around a loaf of bread wrapped in a blanket, while cooing and calling it her "Precious" little blessing.
  3. Starcasm has an article today with a pic of Ben and Jessa's Wedding Invitation. It's interesting that the Duggars have opted for such non-traditional wedding invitations. I like the invites, but I would have expected something more traditional. Maybe they have print these off on their computer and it's cheaper. You JB ...always trying to save a buck. You can see the invite here: http://starcasm.net/archives/294283 It also talks about how despite it being the week before their wedding, the Duggars, including Ben and Jessa, are out on the campaign trail, giving support to all the politicians they like who share their more fundamental beliefs. When I read that I kind of felt bad for Jessa. I mean, first she gets upstaged by Jill getting married first. Then, when she finally does get engaged, she gets upstaged against by Jill's pregnancy announcement and all the attention going to that. Now, here's it the week before her wedding and her parents attention is on campaigning and politics. It just kind of feels like Jessa and her Big Day isn't getting much attention compared to her big sis and I sort of feel bad about that for Jessa. I mean, it's not like any of these girls have even gotten much of their own special attention. I think that they deserve it for this one day at least. It'll probably be the last time they really get attention for anything other than birthing babies. Not that that is any small feat, but they deserve attention and a little spoiling for themselves I think. Also, Derick's Mom said in an article that Jill and Derick opted for a Convenant Marriage which holds the couple to a higher standard and has more restrictions on divorce. I wonder if Ben and Jessa will go the same route. I think that will be a mistake in Ben and Jessa's case because I think it will prolong a lot of misery for Jessa in the future. I know it's horrible to assume their marriage won't work out just days before their wedding, but I really don't have a good feeling about it (compared to Jill and Derick). Still, it's not like I know that all that well so maybe they will surprise me and be a great match.
  4. Can we discuss the Duggars propensity for black and white thinking? Forgive me for any typos- I'm rushing to get to work! Anyways, there are two examples that really bother me and show what I'm talking about. 1. Buy used and save the difference! I am cheap, cheap, cheap when it comes to buying clothes. I don't like to spend $$ on them but I like to look decent. Also, I do not like Goodwill for ethical reasons and I don't have the patience to deal with thrift shopping. However, I spend very little to clothe my family. I only wear capris (not for religious reasons, I just think they look better). I buy these brand new for $3-5 just waiting for them to go on clearance (Kohl's brand) and I really like the Rock and Republic jeans (both pants and capris), I normally buy them for $10-12. I buy my husband shorts for $3-5 at Kohl's and Macy's (even Ralph Lauren and such). Shirts are usually around $5ish. Kids clothes are much cheaper! I can buy 10 outfits (top and bottom) for $50 for my 5 year old. These prices are often less that what I see at our local Goodwill and it's for brand new well fitting clothes. The thing I splurge on bras from Victoria's Secret. They fit me well and aren't frumpy looking (I'm big chested and that's hard to find). I do spend much more on shoes (which I would never buy used). But even still, I buy walking shoes (Fila) at Kohl's for $23. I have bought at least 6 pairs of these (work well for me) for exercise. My running shoes are much more because they come from a local running store and are specially fitted (proper shoes to reduce risk of injury). Kids shoes are can be found much cheaper ($5-6) new at Rack Room. So, why the insistence on buying used shoes? I realize everyone doesn't have a lot of store options (especially living rural) but the Duggars do since they travel often. They can also buy in bulk and buy at the end of the season for the next year. 2. Debt- Two instances come to mind. A. In my town, rent for a 2/2 apartment will run you about $950/month in a decent part of town. You can buy a town home for about $650/month including taxes, insurance, and PMI. IMO, it makes sense to take on the mortgage and either save the extra $300/month for home repairs or just pay it extra on the mortgage to shorten the time. If you chose to rent, you'd have to pay the $950 and then try to save for a house on top of that. It would take forever....especially because if you make $10 an hour here- you have a GOOD job (which honestly, I don't see how people can make it with two people making $10 full time). Now, I realize that things aren't the same in every area but JB makes it appear like taking debt is ALWAYS bad. In some (many now with low real estate prices and low interest) cases, it's the smartest thing to do. Why act like there's always a blanket rule for what's best? B. JB grilling Derick about the blown engine. Does he not realize that Derick may not have a blanket answer for that question. For example, we try to avoid debt (do have a mortgage because of the reasons above). We have no CC debt. Now, we have two cars (one new 2013 and one 1995). We both work. If we blew an engine and didn't have $ in savings to fix it immediately, we would just drop one another off at work until we could pay cash to fix said car. However, we both have short commutes (my job is about 4.5 miles from our house, his is 3) so we could walk/ride bikes if we were really in a bind. Also, we have flexible work schedules so it wouldn't be much of an inconvenience. If we had only one car, I would probably put it on a CC- unless it was winter (we live in FL if you walked to work in the summer- you'd be disgusting by the time you got there!). If we had one car and children and blew an engine, I would definitely put it on a CC (or more likely borrow from family). But JB wants the blanket, NOPE I would never consider putting a car repair on CC. I can't imagine having a car with a blown engine and having a couple of kids (more likely to get sick/injured and need medical attention), having the means to get the car fixed, and choosing not to do so. Especially in a rural area- I mean here- I could walk a mile and buy groceries at a local grocery store and carry them home. Inconvenient, yes but possible. Where could Jill walk one mile and buy groceries to feed her family? I mean Jill would obviously be able to get a ride with one of the family members- but what if it happened to Anna in DC? There's no family around and probably not public transportation out where they live....how would Josh get to work if they only had one car and it blew an engine? I'm assuming he's at least 30 miles from his job so he can't walk.....what would they do? I think JB and M need to start thinking their "rules" through. **Sorry for the wall of text. I have to get to work and wanted to get my thoughts out.**
  5. This is so funny. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/its- ... jesus-buy/
  6. The last time I tried to compose a drinking game for my friends at FJ, I went a little overboard. (Alcohol poisoning in the first ten minutes of the episode...) It's two hours of fun for all tonight as we watch Jilly Dilly tie the knot with her one true love (who impregnated her at the speed of light, but that's another drinking game...) so we'll pace ourselves. One sip Every mention of "chaperones" Every mention of Jill's "very first kiss" Every mention of "purity" Every mention of "courtship" "Season of life" Jim Boob fights to hold back his man tears. MEchelle's inability to find a MOB dress that's modest enough Two sips MEchelle mentioning Jim Boob's man tears Any mention of "trashing their ride" "Purposing" Any talking heads stating that one or more Duggars will be "next" Any mention that Jana was the seamstress for MEchelle's "modesty panel" Jim Boob whining about how much all of this is "costing him" Okay, ladies and gentlemen -- I know you'll want to add to the drinking game. After all, I only have one liver to sacrifice in the name of Gothardism and the fame-whoring that is the Duggar family. Suggestions? Comments? The floor is open!
  7. Has this been posted here yet? I love that we get some background information that wasn't fully explained on the show. duggarfamilyblog.com/search?updated-max=2014-10-23T18:07:00-05:00&max-results=5 Did I break the link correctly? This is my first time.
  8. Ethdyl

    Christian or not?

    I'm curious about different countries and Christianity. I am a Christian (and proud to be one!) and I attend a Church of Christ here in Australia. Women work and go to University and decide how many children to have but we still love our God. I don't know of any people here that have those beliefs that the Duggars do over here. Surely they exist? We have a baptist church near us but the women work and wear pants etc etc. what's the difference? Would we not be considered Christians in the duggars eyes? Is it really that different in America?
  9. Okay, so having established by popular vote, the most deserving Duggar would-be-escapees are Jana, Josiah, Jinger, JoyAnna and Jennifer. Here's what I want to know next: FJers are from all over the place. Would your home town/city be a good place for an elder Duggar (maybe with a Jenny-buddy) to land? Why or why not?
  10. SassyPants

    Shooting Range....

    Is this the venue featured in the Duggar's show? Controversial Owner Declares Her Store a ‘Muslim-Free’ Zone; Find Out Her Reasoning September 29, 2014 By Greg Campbell ZMorganThe Western world is at war with radical Islam. While we are constantly reassured by politicians that try to remain diplomatic that Islam is a religion of peace, we cannot deny that there are many within the Muslim faith that practice a brand of Islam committed to violence. To deny this fact is simply to deny realities of the world. Of course, not all Muslims are violent and should not be treated as such. However, one store, The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range in Hot Springs, Arkansas, has declared itself a “Muslim-free zone.†Citing safety concerns and an extensive history of violent actions taken by Muslims in the U.S. and abroad, range owner Jan Morgan posted on her website a ten-point explanation for her decision to ban Muslims from her establishment and clarification as to her supposed legal reasoning. While many might view the policy as extreme, it should be noted that the establishment appears to serve as a purely private establishment. Of course, this fact will likely not deter the radicalized Department of Justice from forcing Morgan to reverse her policies or otherwise face legal consequences as Obama’s DOJ has, in recent years, tried to force the owners of many establishments to violate their consciences by facilitating homosexual weddings. Morgan claims that the ATF has asked her in the past to exercise judgment in refusing service to people who she feels might be unstable or a threat in general. This broad leeway, Morgan claims, offers her the authority to deny service broadly to Muslims. Bearingarms.com backs-up this assertion and notes, “She brings up a very valid point that gun stores and ranges have both a legal and moral obligation to ensure the safety of their patrons. Because of this, they may refuse service to anyone they deem to be under the influence, mentally unstable, or otherwise a potential threat to themselves, or others. FFLs are afforded a great deal of latitude in this regard, as the federal government would rather err on the side of caution.†Morgan offers her lengthy ten-point reasoning on her website: I officially declare my business, The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range, a MUSLIM FREE ZONE . . . 1) The Koran, which I have read and studied thoroughly and (which all muslims align themselves with), contains 109 verses commanding hate, murder and terror against all human beings who refuse to submit or convert to Islam. Read those verses of violence here. 2) My life has been threatened repeatedly by muslims who are angry that I have studied their koran and have, over the past two years, been exposing the vileness of the Koran and its murderous directives. 3) * The barbaric act of beheading an innocent American in Oklahoma by a muslim * the Boston bombings(by muslims) * the Fort Hood mass shooting (by a muslim) that killed 13 people and injured over 30 people * and the murder of 3000 innocent people (by muslims) on 9/11 This is more than enough loss of life on my home soil at the hands of muslims to substantiate my position that muslims can and will follow the directives in their Koran and kill here at home. 4) Because the nature of my business involves firearms and shooting firearms in an enclosed environment, my patrons are not comfortable being around muslims who align themselves with a religion that clearly commands hate, murder, and violence against all non muslims. Therefore many of my patrons are uncomfortable around Muslims with guns. (can you blame them?) 5) My range rents and sells guns to my patrons. Why would I want to rent or sell a gun and hand ammunition to someone who aligns himself with a religion that commands him to kill me? 6) * Muslims, who belong to and, or, support ISIS, are threatening to kill innocent Americans. * Muslims, who belong to or support AL Qaeda, are threatening to kill innocent Americans. * Muslims who belong to or support HAMAS are threatening to kill innocent Americans. See a common thread here? 7) I not only have the right to refuse service but a RESPONSIBILITY to provide a safe environment for people to shoot and train on firearms. I can and have turned people away if I sense they are under the influence of alcohol or mind altering drugs. I have a federal firearms license… The ATF informed us when we received the license that if we feel any reason for concern about selling someone a firearm, even sense that something is not right about an individual, or we are concerned about that persons mental state, even if they pass a background check, we do not have to sell that person a gun. In other words, a federal agency has given us this kind of discretion for service based on the nature of the business. I can and have turned people away if I sense an issue with their mental state. So… its difficult to imagine how the DOJ could have issues with this when ATF gave us this discretion. 8) I have no way of looking at Islam other than as a theocracy, not a religion. Islam is undoubtedly the union of political, legal, and religious ideologies. In other words law, religion and state are forged together to form what Muslims refer to as “The Nation of Islam.†Once again it is given the sovereign qualities of a nation with clerics in the governing body and Sharia law all in one. This is a Theocracy, not a religion. The US Constitution does not protect a theocracy. The 1st Amendment is very specific about protecting the rights of individuals from the government, as it concerns the practice of religions, not theocracies. It clearly differentiates between government and religion. Again protecting the individual’s religious beliefs and practices from (the state) government. In Islam religion and state are one. We are a Nation governed by laws, or the law of the land the U.S. Constitution. We are not a Nation that is governed by religion, politicians or clerics. How then, can anyone say that, the practice of Islam is protected by the U.S. Constitution? The muslim brotherhood has a documented plan for the destruction of America from within, discovered by our own government during a raid of MB operatives in America. In addition, I am very cognizant of the civilization jihad under way in my country by American muslims. In a number of states Muslims, through our legal system, are trying to force us to accept Sharia Law over Constitutional law. I do not wish to do business with people who stand against the Constitution and are fighting to replace it. 9) Islam allows Muslims to kill their own children, (honor killing) if the behavior of those children embarrasses or dishonors the family name. ( did you know that dating outside of the faith is justification for murdering their daughters and this has already occurred on American soil?) Why would I want people (who believe its okay to murder their own children), be in the presence of other children? My patrons often bring their kids to the range to teach them to shoot. I am responsible for providing a safe environment for those children to learn gun safety and shooting sports. 10) In the 14 hundred year history of Islam, muslims have murdered over 270 million people. Not all muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists in the world right now are muslim. Since you can’t determine by visual assessment, which ones will kill you and which ones will not, I am going to go with the line of thought that ANY HUMAN BEING who would either knowingly or unknowingly support a “religion†that commands the murder of all people who refuse to submit or convert to that religion, is not someone I want to know or do business with. I hold adults accountable for the religion they align themselves with. In summary, I not only have the right, but a responsibility to provide a safe environment for my customers. I do not believe my decision is religious discrimination because I do not classify islam as a religion.. It is a theocracy/terrorist organization that hides behind the mask of religion in order to achieve its mission of world domination. People who shoot at my range come from all religious backgrounds… some are atheists… I do not care about their religious beliefs. I care about the safety of my customers who come to shoot here. The government allows businesses to ban me from entering their business with my gun because the property owner feels uncomfortable or wants to provide a “safe†environment for their patrons which is in clear violation of my 2nd Amendment right to bear arms, so… I should be ale to deny service to people on the same premise. Can my government really force me to invite someone who had threatened to kill me, into my home or business? I will do whatever is necessary to provide a safe environment for my customers, even at the cost of the increased threats and legal problems this decision will likely provoke. Jan Morgan- owner / The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range
  11. 1st wiccan fundie

    Something you don't really mind

    Just for fun, I'm feeling generous - let's list something that doesn't bother you about the Duggars. I'm curious what others would say. I for one am not all that bothered by the J names. Some are stupid sounding, like Jinger, John-David, Jediadiah but the idea of the names beginning with the letter J is not a big deal to me.
  12. Does anyone know if Derick celebrated Halloween growing up? It seems like he has led a more normal sort of life compared to the Duggars, having more of the normal growing up experiences which makes me wonder about how he and Jill will raise their baby. It's normal for people to want to share happy childhood experiences they had with their own kids and if Derick enjoyed trick-or-treating, for instance, I can see him wanting to share that with his child. But I know the Duggars are totally against Halloween and at least according to this article: http://www.celebitchy.com/389095/jim-bo ... ern_music/ they believe that "magic and witches are “part of a demonic realm God wants us to stay away from.†No hocus pocus here!" So no Harry Potter either I assume. I just wonder how many of these types of differences might arise when they start raising a child together. Jill has been brought up in such extremely narrow life experiences with so much intolerance and so heavy on the rules, whereas Derick...while he might be very religious, clearly experienced going to a secular university (although he was a member of the Baptist Church group on campus), being Pistol Pete (not something I can see the Duggars allowing any of their kids to do in a zillion years), and I'm sure he has secular friends. He works at Walmart. I just get the feeling that his upbringing was more what we would consider normal. He played sports and was on sports teams and not everything in his life revolved around or had to be immersed in Jesus and the Bible. I wonder if they have a daughter...all the crazy wardrobe stuff, the ridiculous swimsuits and so on. I can't help but wonder how Derick will feel about that when it's HIS little girl being forced into such restrictions, not to mention his Mom...she strikes me as someone who will not be happy to see such rules forced on to her grandchild. It's possible to be very devout in your Faith without being hobbled by all these ridiculous rules. Clearly Derick's Mom trusts her son to be the good person she raised. She doesn't feel she has to keep controlling every aspect of his life as an adult, or enforce stupid rules to ensure he stays Godly.
  13. amyjoyharrison

    ID these littles

    <> I sure hope the two middle kids were engaged at the time! Courting rules!
  14. ...and set them up with a community, place to live, and job, but could only pick one, who would it be? My initial gut says Jana, but I think it'd be cruel to rip her away from the kids she's raised. I'm gonna go with Siah. He seems like he'd be good at making friends outside the compound and might eventually set up a crash pad/halfway house for any siblings that'd want to join him.
  15. I realize that I'm in way too deep when I wake up at 4:30 in the morning and my first thoughts are "why does jim bob stand in front of the church and make such a big to-do about that first kiss and not about the fact that two young people are making a lifetime commitment to one another. It just seems to me that the focus is skewed and priorities are out of order. Since I have joined FreeJinger I have really taken notice of just how immature Jim Bob and Michelle really are. Other husband/wife fundie combos seem to have a power/control aspect but these two have more of at 'teenage quality to their relationship) Yes, they have their finances in order - but it seems that they wholly focus on sex, kissing, blah, blah... what about real preparations and foundations for marriage? What about ensuring two people are truly compatible? I have started to really dig into this whole Bill Gothard ministry thing and the patriarchal legalistic elements. It just seems to me like a bunch of boy-men who think about little more than the physical aspects of a relationship and not what really makes it tick. Annoying. Baseless. Thoughts?
  16. actuallyjessica

    if you didn't know their names!

    this is sort of in the same vein (names!) as the other thread about the j names, so mods, i understand if you wish to merge the 2 topics. i have a note saved (from june 2013) for names i think would suit the duggar kids, had they not gone with the j names and i didn't know their names. i often look at people and think they don't look like their name. for instance, there's an old man (let's call him bob!) i know, and even though i know his name, i always have to stop myself from saying the hi, graham. this happens to me with quite a few people. -- Josh = Andrew (Andy) Paul Jana = Katherine (Katie) Mary John-David = Bradley (Brad) James Jill = Elizabeth (Lizzy) Anne Jessa = Stephanie Louise Jinger = Alyssa Naomi Joseph = Nicholas (Nick) Benjamin Josiah = Daniel (Danny) Peter Joyanna = Lauren Susannah Jeremiah = Noah Matthew Jedidiah = Thomas (Tom) Isaac Jason = Zachary (Zach) Lucas James = Alexander (Alex) Jared Justin = Blake Simon Jackson = Colin Levi Johanna = Zoey Judith Jennifer = Emily Grace Jordyn = Sophia Ruth Josie = Abigail (Abi) Candace Mackynzie = Ava Delilah Michael = Jack Gabriel Marcus = Ethan Silas Anna = Megan (Meg) Julia Michelle = Susan Mary Jim-Bob = David Paul
  17. lisab506

    J names?

    I'm relatively new here so please forgive me if this has been discussed before. I was thinking last night about J names the Duggars didn't use (wonder why) or could use in the future if they had more (God forbid). How about: Jacob (really popular, I wonder why they skipped it?) Julie/Julia/Julianna Julius/Julian Jules Jean/Jeanne/Jeannie Jemma Jacqueline/Jaclyn Jane Jared Jerome Jasmine Jaspar Janice Janet Jocelyn Jeffrey Jefferson Jade Jemimah Joan Jodie Jayden Jonah Jeanine Jeanette Jory Jesus (they might have if they were Latino) Jessica (too close to Jessa?) Jeremy (too close to Jeremiah?) Jillian (too close to Jill?) Jonathan (too close to John?) Justine I've clearly have too much time on my hands.
  18. I've noticed lately that Ben Seewalds hair has quickly become a replica of Jim Bob's. Why this bothered me so much I'll never know...but I googled it and this is what came up. wtf? specifically check out phase 3. these people are beyond bizarre. in fairness, this is from 2005 and may have changed since, but i seriously doubt it. The sit is xatiguy.blogspotdot.com Hair Design the IBLP Way (and God's way, of course) ATI's newest exciting program... Godly young ladies attending the Hair Design Workshop can become competent and experienced in the skill of enhancing the outward appearance to the glory of God. This ministry may be used in the home to meet the needs of family members, friends, church members, and the elderly. Young ladies must be careful to not cut hair outside this sphere of influence, as such a practice might lead to a profession outside the home, causing satanic darts to pierces through the "umbrella of protection." As we know, this umbrella is only available to a woman while inside her home, provided her father or husband is at home. Also, since accepting others outside your sphere of influence may actually lead to you being paid for your services, this would no longer be a ministry and therefore the Lord will remove His blessing from your work. Lastly, by only making your ministry available to family members, friends (fellow ATI grads), church members and the elderly, you will lessen the attacks of the Devil. Since you may get tempted by a woman of ill repute who may bring a worldly magazine to your home to show you how she would like to have her hair styled -- not to lift her countenance, but rather to draw attention to her . . . womanly attributes, so she can be flirtatious and cause little boys to have lascivious thoughts that could lead to the sin of Onan. So please, keep it in the home, don't make any money off it, and whatever you do, don't do anything that will pop even the tiniest hole in your umbrella of protection. Warning!!! Keep that "Umbrella of Protection" away from the "Hedge of Thorns!!!" These are two very different universal non-optional principals and they cannot be intertwined!!! Phase One of the Hair Design Workshop will include two days of instruction on the attributes of hair! This includes never before heard of insights to the characteristic of human hair that were recently discerned by Bill Gothard himself after he memorized and mediated on the only four hair passages that are found in the Bible. You won't believe what hidden truth he discovered when meditating on Judges 16:17. Blunts and under cuts, advanced techniques in layers, tapers, stacking, male clipper cuts, and much more will be included in the seminar. Instruction will also be given on the only haircut ordained by God for men. Well, most men, that is--those "Queer Eye for the Straight Guys" types are hopelessly lost since they have gone all the way down the reprobation chart and have almost no hope of even climbing their way back. Using the male clipper cut principal, you will be taught how to never leave any hair over the ear or have it touch the white shirt collar or heaven forbid the blue suit collar! Phase Two (advanced) is designed to further equip you in cosmetology skills for your ministry. This course includes advanced techniques in haircutting, hair design, perm wrapping, manicures, pedicures, skin care, make-up, protocol, hospitality, etiquette, and building your ministry. Prerequisite is Phase One completion. Special attention will be paid to hair colors and making sure you understand Godly hair colors as found only in His creation (no hot pinks, greens, blues or other colors found only in the false god worshiping Canaanite culture). Also, while manicures and pedicures are covered (how to trim your nails and clean your hands so they are wholly acceptable to Him), applying any type of color to the nail is not covered, since this is one of the 5 signs of a harlot. Only five to ten minutes is given to make-up, just to reiterate that it is forbidden, and is counter productive to countenance enhancement since it draws the attention of men to your face, and you know first the face, next the bosom and then the . . . aahhh don't you just hate those slippery slopes. Finally, material from the Song of Solomon is not covered until Phase Three! Phase Three is currently under development but can only be attended by pastors wives who have had a hair design ministry in their home for at least 7 years, 7 months and 7 days and have had at least 8 offspring, and have never used any form of birth control (this is includes the rhythm method). Complete memorization of the Song of Solomon required. The main topic covered will be Hair Design and talking to the folks in your ministry about God's heavenly design for conjugal relations. For you Growing Kids Gods Wayer's out there, Gary Ezzo has granted special dispensation to Bill who will explain this to you with a "chalk talk." This features a diagram of a flower with a extremely explicit close up of both the stamen and pistil, all while rapidly repeating I Cor. 6:18.
  19. With all the attention focused on their faces, hair etc. and the amounts of time and products they use, fake tanners included, they must be great friends with their mirrors.
  20. I know that we have caught them in a few, but I can't remember what they were. I thought it would be interesting to see how many everyone can come up with. Since fundies don't seem to mind the sin of lying in order to remain a Godly Christian[tm][/tm], what are some of the ones you guys have noticed?
  21. From Life & Style magazine (tabloid), Oct. 20 issue, page 6 "Duggars Under Fire: Will Fans Desert Them?" ..."It's a side of the fundamentalist Christian family that TLC viewers never see -- and that's intentional. "They don't get to see the real Duggars, because a lot of the fans would likely flee,' an industry insider tells Life & Style. 'If one of them says something too controversial during taping, it gets cut.' Goes on in a not flattering way, and they reprint the pic of the death camp inmates that Jessa posted and part of her quote.
  22. (Hey guys, this is my first post, sorry if its all over the place) I keep seeing mentions to this new DVD the Duggars have done, linked to Ray Comfort (instant 'oh hell') and wondered how cringe-worthy it is? I can't seem to get many working links, I'm from the UK, but have heard it's pretty weird. Also on a side note, has anyone seen that weird kids show things that features Jackson catching a cartoon frog and the episode is in their house? I think it was called Life at the Pond, 19,000 frogs and counting. I had no idea they'd done that. I can only speculate as to how embarrassing it actually is.
  23. don't they realize people can still think perverted thoughts about them even if they don't "show off" their bodies....it's kinda useless imo to even bother to be "modest " because you can't control other people's minds on how they think about you and don't they realize that anyway?
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