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  • Welcome to Who's Who: Fundamentalist Family and Organization Summaries! This is a bit of a work in progress section of the forum. Some of our members have graciously volunteered to share their expansive knowledge on the various families and organizations that we talk about here on Free Jinger.

    We have more summaries planned and will be adding to this section as folks get time to write them up.

    We appreciate the time our members have taken to share their obsessions knowledge with us :)

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    • LovelyLuna


      Hey Jill, people talk about your family when you go out because they want to know if you came out of an underground bunker sealed in the 1980’s.  Or why your children look like waifs and saloon girls. NOT because they are excited to see ‘good Christian people’.

      It’s also creepy for two teenage boys, guided by their mother to post a video about what they are attracted to.  

      Free Gabriel 

    • Okie_Bokie


      2 hours ago, Tim-Tom Biblethumper said:

      We also make it known that those ungodly/rodly people will be going straight to H E double-hockey sticks, while we're yucking it up with the angels.

      I think I'm going to tweak this a bit and start using the phrase "unRodly" when referring to things the Rods wouldn't approve of.  Thanks!  :drumroll:

    • PennySycamore


      On 5/23/2019 at 5:29 PM, clueliss said:

      By the way - back in the 80's a Pastor and his mistress (from the Emporia KS area) conspired to murder her husband and his wife.  I believe they made a tv movie about it.   He succeeded in killing his wife.  The link below is the result of a google search - Sandy Bird was the Pastor's wife


      The movie was Murder Ordained and Keith Carridine played the Kansas state trooper who investigated the crash of Sandra Bird's car while Terry Kinney played her minister husband and JoBeth Williams his parishioner mistress.   It is excellent.

      Neither the Pastor Bird not his mistress served enough time in prison.  Pastor Bird was thinking of becoming a marriage counselor after his release from prison.  Just the kind of marriage counselor you want -a guy who served time for murdering his wife!

    • RFSurvivor_2

      Posted (edited)

      16 hours ago, formergothardite said:

      Michael in that video just looks miserable. So he writes all the RF music? 


      There has always been a (meticulously chosen) handful of RF music artists that have put out material over the years under Michael’s music label. Some of these musicians have released their own solo projects on the side, some even officially unaffiliated with Michael’s label and the church. Unfortunately these projects never received as much of a following or strong promotional push compared to Michael’s music. To say that the music in the church is monopolized would be an understatement. There are a LOT of talented musicians in RF. I hate seeing that much talent go to waste. It makes me sick to my stomach thinking about it sometimes. 

      I’ve worked relatively closely with the music team for years while I was in RF. My involvement ranged from tech/audio to mixing, producing and performing music. After spending much time with Michael over the course of several years, it was clear to me that he was being SEVERELY suppressed by his mother in nearly every facet of his life, with music being one of the most important and prominent. Because of Gwen’s “influence”, the quality of Michael’s music has ranged from VERY good to (to be blunt) teeth grinding cringe worthy (especially in recent days). Michael possesses a LOT of unreleased, current to ahead-of-it’s-time music that’s is till this day, some of my favorite works of his. The guy is legitimately talented but unfortunately it has been historically difficult for him to expand and express his musical creativity without some strong formal degree of “influence” by his mother. 

      I do want to note that I found it very...interesting hearing “X” music being released publicly and then hearing something completely different (in terms of production quality, lyrics, arrangement) in private or in passing in his studio at Weigh Down. It was interesting witnessing that over years. 

      On the note of Michael and the Nashville Music Scene:

      While I was a member in RF I essentially lived a “double life” for quite some time. I became deeply infused with the Nashville night life, more specifically, became heavily involved in the ever growing electronic music scene. During this time I found myself DJ’ing at the local clubs, opening for local and big acts to house parties and “boiler rooms”. I also worked with A LOT of local and internationally well known producers and artists. All outside RF of course. With that being said, comparatively speaking of course, I strongly believe that Michael (with the right connections) could do well as a non RF solo artist and producer in Nashville. There is no doubt a LOT OF TALENT out there however I personally believe he has something unique, skills / talent that would set him apart from the “riff raft” so to speak.

      If I may throw some salt out here; If Michael were to ever break free and start doing non RF music publicly, I would no doubt believe that he would be a hell of a lot more successful than Joe Lara. Just saying.

      I hope Michael truly repents, take a hold of his life, take his family, run for the hills and start anew. I do acknowledge that he has done very, to be blunt, shitty things in his past. I get it, and I have expressed this several threads ago. However, people change. Circumstances change. Lives change. The past helps shape our future. The future isn’t about looking towards something that may happen. IMO, it should always be viewed as an opportunity to make up for the failures of the past and to better one’s self. This betterment isn’t just for one’s self but for those around an individual and who he/she has or continues to effect for years to come.

      I hope he one day makes peace with those he has affected. I hope he realizes this and leaves with his family while he / they can. Hope...

      Edited by RFSurvivor_2
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    • ViolaSebastian