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Mrs. Anna T â€“ â€œDomestic Felicityâ€
Anna writes for Ladies Against Feminism, though Iâ€™ve only rarely checked that site. I stumbled across her blog in pretty much the usual way anyone stumbles across any blog. I was interested, however, because sheâ€™s Jewish Orthodox and living in Israel. I thought the perspective of a woman in Israel would be interesting and it is.
Anna writes well and is multilingual and college educated, with a degree in nutrition. She was raised by a single mother and they were not very devout in their religious practice. In college she dated a man and it sounds like it was a pretty serious relationship, but he was abusive to her. Afterward, she began to turn to her religion and found comfort in it and the traditional gender roles Orthodoxy offered. She remained single for a year or two after college before she met her husband, Yitzhak.
Their first date sounds like it was all business and they measured their interests and values against the otherâ€™s interests and values and they decided they were compatible. From there, it wasnâ€™t long before they were engaged, married, and had a baby girl. After 18 months, another baby girl came along. They have moved quite a bit in their short time together. Some have opined that she lives in an Israeli settlement, but she indicates only that theyâ€™re in the country and that they are in a peaceful area.
One thing about Annaâ€™s blog that stands out is her constant quest for peace. That may partially be due to her knowing that military conflict is near, but it also seems to be some kind of internal craving with her. She doesnâ€™t seem to deal well with much of any kind of pressure. Even having people over for Shabbat, where itâ€™s pot-luck style, seems stressful even though she enjoys the company. Still, the reader gets the impression of a rather introverted woman who likes things to flow smoothly.
Another thing that stands out is her rigidity. She believes women are suited and designed for domestic endeavors and men are to be the providers and leaders. Period. For a woman to have a hobby is to be neglectful of her family. When challenged, she just repeats her beliefs. There doesnâ€™t seem to be any room for â€œdifferent strokes for different folks.â€ (a snark-worthy read is interesting read is the blog of Analytical Adam, a guy who occasionally comments on her more theological posts)
That said, she speaks strongly against a conservative wing of Orthodox Jews where the men study Torah all the time and the women work, have numerous children, and keep the house.
Not long ago, she wrote a post about how, when she was newly married, sheâ€™d hoped to be a mom to many children, but that it was not to be. She didnâ€™t elaborate on why. She desires to homeschool, but expresses nervousness about whether the government will allow it. It seems there are enough hoops to jump through in Israel that it makes homeschooling difficult.
Her family of origin doesnâ€™t seem to be very supportive, but she doesnâ€™t elaborate. She also was disappointed in her hospital birthing experiences, finding them overly clinical, unnecessarily invasive, and brusque (my words, not hers).
I like hearing about their holidays. Because they are Orthodox, they observe them all and thereâ€™s a part of me that finds quite nice that cycle of remembering and celebrating or mourning or whatever. And she makes some delicious-looking meals (oh, she used to be vegetarian but now incorporates some meat in her diet).
My favorite post of hers is the one where she reflects on her reflection in the mirror and what it means and how itâ€™s not always comfortable. Even after being married 5 years, sheâ€™s not yet comfortable seeing herself in a tichel. There had been a picture of her in her headscarf on her blog and I liked that photo. She has a nice smile. I liked learning that someone with such rigid beliefs also has some internal conflict rather than pretending all is always perfect.
There for awhile, she wrote a little story, in segments on her blog, about a girl named Becky who has to go live with her aunt and uncleâ€™s family. Of course, Becky was not religious and wore short skirts and jeans and her aunt and uncleâ€™s family is Orthodox and she has some adjusting to do. Anna hasnâ€™t updated the story in a long time. Though Anna writes well, the story was corny and predictable.
I choose to read her blog as a look into the life of a woman whoâ€™s trying to make sense of life and, like most fundies who choose rigidity, find comfort in shelter offered by religion and prescribed roles.
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Mrs. Anna T continues to search for peacefulness. She really does seem to enjoy what she calls â€œthe simple life at home,â€ baking, crafting, gardening, and chicken-keeping, but things donâ€™t seem to be all that stable.
For starters, she and her family move relatively frequently. She does not elaborate why they move, but she does hint that her husbandâ€™s employment is not altogether reliable.
The â€œcrossroads in (her husbandâ€™s) careerâ€ (as she put it) might indicate that their income is not steady. Given her devout faith, she interprets un-steady income as a means upon which to rely on God and trust in his provisions.
While she had hoped to have a lot of children, she has two daughters. She did not elaborate on why they stopped at two, but a recent post (by another woman) about secondary infertility might be a clue. I donâ€™t know whether she has simply not conceived due to secondary infertility (the author of the piece she shared had that experience) or whether she and Mr. T chose to stop after two for other reasons. In any case, it seems that folks in her community are as meddlesome as they are anywhere else and they question her child spacing â€“ that her youngest is 3 or 4 and thereâ€™s no sign of one on the way. That she shared another womanâ€™s story of being hurt by othersâ€™ meddlesome comments and questions as to why there were no more children when the woman is still of childbearing age makes me wonder if she also feels hurt.
It seems she lives in a â€œsettledâ€ area of Israel and she is currently very worried that this land will get taken away from them (the Jewish people). Being a more â€œmainstreamâ€ Orthodox Jew, it would follow that she believes that God gave the Jewish people Israel and that they are to occupy it. She has said nothing about the Israeli Armyâ€™s bulldozing tactics, so I donâ€™t know whether or not she agrees with their form of border â€œenforcement.â€
Please forgive the more personal opinions in the following paragraph: In the US, when we wish for a peaceful life, we usually mean a life thatâ€™s unhindered by stresses like long commutes, work deadlines, and trying to stay afloat financially. Living where she does, I do believe â€œpeaceâ€ has a more literal connotation, so I really canâ€™t join others in concluding that sheâ€™s somehow avoiding real life. I canâ€™t fault her for wanting peace and stability. However, if she ever comes out with an attempt to justify the Israeli Armyâ€™s actions, my generally positive impression of her will do a 180. She has never come out with anti-Muslim comments, but if they live in an occupied settlement (this is information I gathered via fj; Anna has never shared their whereabouts other than their living in the country), I wonder how neighborly they really feel towards them - and I do recognize that the Israel/Palestine antagonism goes both ways.
The family will be moving again soon (she has not shared where theyâ€™ll be going) and it sounds like theyâ€™re downsizing. I really hope that Mr. T can find stable, profitable employment, as she has put herself in a place where she is dependent upon him, financially. Of course, she sees this as living the way God intended and tries to put on a happy face, but thereâ€™s something about her tone that sounds disappointed. She wants the Orthodox Jewish Woman Dream and itâ€™s not turning out too dreamy.
I like her love of animals and nature, playing with her children, doing crafts (some very pretty crochet work) and intelligence.
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On 7/19/2019 at 11:11 AM, NoKidsAndCounting said:
I love it - the thought of JRod and Shrader in a room together.
Ages ago, there was a thread drift somewhere about imagining them not only meeting, but married to one another, which was so delectable it inspired me to song! I dug it up from my files - other than asking where they will store their respective goodies, it applies to their meeting and being related by marriage, as well:
When an unbelievable asshole, like John,
Meets a narcissistic exemplar, like Jill,
You can bet just as sure as you live.
Something's gotta give
Something's gotta give
Something's gotta give!
When an irrepressible ego, like John's,
Makes him take attention that Jill thinks is hers,
We should hide, because I insist,
Someone's gonna be pissed!
So, en garde, who knows where they'll find room to store,
Sunflow'r seeds and jerky beside,
Bags and bins of makeup and hairspray galore,
In a pop-up or single-wide?
Fight, fight, fight, they will fight with all of their might,
Chances are some horrible hair-pulling night,
We'll find out as sure as we live,
Something's gotta give,
Something's gotta give,
Something's gotta give!
3 hours ago, Palimpsest said:
Whatever Josh Harris now regrets about his past actions, writing, and pastoral career with Sovereign Grace (wherein he covered up sexual abuse, let's not forget that) -- none of it was his fault. And I expect his marriage failing wasn't his fault either. Everything is always somebody else's fault....Whatever his upbringing, he needs to take responsibility for a good 20 years of adult bad decision-making all by his little self. He jumped from Sovereign Grace like a rat leaving a sinking ship and has never admitted any culpability there.
This is the crux of it, for me.
It's possible that Josh Harris may actually be thinking things over in an attempt to do & be better, but I suspect that his primary impulse is to leave it all in the past.
For example, earlier in this discussion, I linked to a public FB post of his (from 2017 or 2018), in which he callously referred to the trauma at CLC -- while he was a pastor there -- as a shit show, saying he was glad he was out of it & hoped that those who were also there at the time were doing well. Of course, that comment is now gone or hidden from his timeline. If you follow the link in my previous comment, this is what you get:
Yep, Josh -- we see you for the fraud you are.
2 hours ago, nausicaa said:
Yeah, I'd like to think I have a pretty good BS detector and she didn't ring it at all. The only thing I suspect is that she may be exaggerating just how well she knew the Bateses (i.e., the girls were casual friends but not besties). That could also be an honest trick of her memory at this point too.
The Catholicism thing actually makes sense to me. If she still wants to be religious, I imagine mainstream Catholics, with their lack of strict rules about personal clothing choices, hobbies, education, and popular media, would be seen as a relief. Also, she doesn't have to worry about breakaway churches severing her church community as happened in her childhood.
Also, you are right. ❤️ I met a Catholic who shaped my entire idea of Christianity and religion in general. His church is super altruistic and welcoming, and he is too. I don’t see it as a return to strictness, but a totally new way of life.
1 hour ago, Gobsmacked said:
What's the difference between a Radiologist and a Godly Radiologist?
A Godly radiologist can see into your SOUL!
The comments under Lori’s no abuse rant are horrible. Someone posted the domestic abuse hotline. I got a snap Incase it gets deleted. You can tell Lori is trying to go viral because she isn’t deleting anything. The spoiler below is a women’s story of marrying a man who claimed to be Christian and turned out to be an abuser. *rape warning as well*
People tend to forget that women were property in the Bible. Bought/sold to the highest bidder. I’ve joked with my mom about my bf having to buy her a goat and some chickens before he can marry me. Lori would have no platform if it wasn’t for evil feminist.
The Bible isn’t 100 percent relevant today. We no longer, in Christian nations, stone children for not listening. Deuteronomy 21:18-21Spoiler
18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Jesus said we can eat anything as long as it is clean and blessed. The list goes on.