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  1. ViolaSebastian

    Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

    I prefer Miranda Rights Duggar, myself.
  2. As reply on @Ivycoveredtowers message: If the Swansons really want to push another Duggar in law I could see Jer and Lily in a few years. Personally I would vote for James and Lily and naming their first son Harry.
  3. usmcmom

    Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

    I keep thinking about how this impacts most of the other fundies I follow and what they might be doing with the information (or lack thereof.) David Waller is once again reminding himself that he is the better man compared to Josh, while Priscilla wonders if they have room for Anna and her six children. Priscilla is also feeling thankful that her dad sold her to David instead of to Josh Duggar. Lori Alexander is furiously typing a rambling mess of words, most of which are “lies,” “slander” and “Satan.” I think we can expect a video from her soon. Steve Maxwell is wailing a long and frightening prayer of thanks that God made him more righteous than Jim Bob Duggar, He is taking this as a sign that his daughters will definitely never be allowed to marry. Jesse either. He is also regretting any help he gave the Duggars in promoting that one book. Zsu is wandering around her yard (because she hates being inside), gently cooing to baby Eva “Reprobate...Reprobate...Reprobate.” And JILL RODRIGUES! Oh my God! Just when we thought Jill’s eyes couldn’t get any bigger, they are SEVERELY HUGE, smudged with green eyeliner as she paces the floor wondering when the Kellers will call her to fill her in. WON’T ANYBODY THINK OF JILL?!? Somebody call her before Timothy takes to Facebook to shame everyone for leaving Momma out of the loop.
  4. Let me introduce, Jana, JoyAnna and Johanna Duggar...
  5. Aoife

    Dillards 81: Volunteering for God

    I'm a little late to the discussion, but I want to speak up praise of the NHS. I have breast cancer. I've had chemotherapy, surgery and radiotherapy, all free of charge. (Ok, I know I've paid through a lifetime of taxes, but still.) My first hospital diagnostic appointment was a week after I found a lump, and was followed by more tests and scans within another fortnight. Chemo was organised and started in another 3 weeks. This timescale is fairly standard. Unfortunately, my cancer resisted all that, and has progressed. Since I became incurable, I have attended one of the top research hospitals in the country to particiate in clinical trials. I have access to new and experimental treatments. I have had several hospital admissions to stabilise me so that I can continue. They also provide counselling. All still free at the point of use. Yes, I am still likely to die soon, unless one of the trials comes good. But it won't be because we didn't/couldn't afford to try everything, and my family won't be bankrupted in the process.
  6. Nargus

    Joy & Austin 29: RV Living

    You guys. This is some serious breaking news. Both of their husbands are pilots.
  7. HerNameIsBuffy

    Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

    Not if we all send it thoughts and prayers
  8. There's always a lot of discussion over when sheltering goes too far, and I'm not sure where the line is exactly. But I know that with Lauren, the line was clearly crossed. She's not sheltered. She's stunted. She's in almost every way a young-ish teenager in an adult's body. I've written this before, but I think Lauren got the worst of the worst. In mega-families, the daughters at least are forced to mature either because they're responsible for raising multiple siblings OR because they're responsible for raising themselves (or both). In smaller families, the kids still get parental attention. But Lauren's family was too small to force her into maturing by foisting parenting duties entirely onto her. She likely had an elevated chore load, but 8 kids well-spaced is not so much that her parents were forced to relinquish parenting duties. Lauren's mom was not passing off kids onto her elder daughters entirely. Lauren did not seem to be totally responsible for running aspects of the home. But with so many kids, her parents likely didn't have time for a lot of one on one time with their elder kids once they reached a more independent stage. They likely focused their energies on the littles. This meant that once Lauren and her sisters reached an age where they were mature enough to no longer be tightly reliant on their parents, they were likely largely left to their own devices. And without anyone encouraging them to mature or situations forcing them to mature, there's no guarantee they would mature. And I think this is what happened. From age 15 onward, there was likely very little in Lauren's life to encourage her to continue to develop and mature. So she stopped. And now, she's a grown woman who is stuck stunted mentally and emotionally at 15-16. Adult experiences MAY encourage her to continue to develop. Or it may cause her to break down. At this point, I think it's roulette. But we're seeing in Lauren unrealistic expectations of success. She's been lead to believe that by leading the right life, God will remove any struggle from her path. And that's just never going to happen. There are normal struggles in life, you have to be prepared to deal with them, and Lauren just isn't prepared at all to handle any sort of struggle....or even just delayed gratification. If she's struggling with 4 months to conceive, which is perfectly normal but not "blessed", what happens if she actually struggles to conceive? Secondary infertility is not uncommon. What about a difficult child? Or a difficult pregnancy? I think we could have a 1 kid laundry room meltdown from Lauren if Bella is colicky, a bad sleeper, fussy, or strong willed. She's simply not prepared to handle adult life, and there's no way around parenting being a very adult task.
  9. singsingsing

    Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

    Aren't other Duggar brothers involved in Josh's business? And let's be real, Josh's business is really Jim Bob's business. It's all Jim Bob's business.
  10. bal maiden

    JinJer 51: Can't Even Sell Donuts!

    Jinger and Jeremy are no longer attending the Rebecca Minkoff event ‘due to personal reasons’.
  11. JesSky03

    Sierra 3: Paddle Faster I Hear Banjos

    My husband is a recovering alcoholic. We are expecting our 2nd child together- he had three years sobriety, relapsed, and now has about 6 months sobriety under his belt (and I'm 7 months pregnant). Has divorce ever crossed my mind? Yes, in the early days of discovering his addiction it certainly crossed my mind and we fought and argued and came close a dozen times but eventually we arrived at a place where we have accepted his disease as a disease that affects us both and decided to conquer the problem together. We communicate, he doesn't hide his drinking from me anymore, he is seeing a counselor on a bi-weekly basis, and it is very much "our problem", not "his problem". I have mentioned it on here before and I'm sure there are people who judge me and my decision to stay, to continue to have children with this man, and do not understand why or how I could tolerate it but that's fine. They don't have to understand. They are not here, inside my relationship on a daily basis. They haven't seen how we have grown and changed and overcome multiple difficulties over the past 12 years. They have not seen how hard my husband works to maintain his sobriety and not let it affect his work, school, kids, or me. It so easy to judge from the outside. I'm sure we have looked miserable together at times, and we probably were, but we have never stopped loving each other and we continue come out the other side of whatever life throws at us. My husband mainly keeps his addiction a secret from people in real life because he fears this kind of judgement and unsolicited opinions. He finally told his mom after reaching 3 years of sobriety but still couldn't bring himself to tell anyone else in the family. I sometimes think the secrecy hinders his recovery process but I also understand how the judgement and change in demeanor from people who know could hinder it as well. Sorry to come down so hard, I know I wasn't being personally attacked but your comment struck a nerve. Anyway, I hope Kristen's husband is okay, that must have been really scary.
  12. feministxtian

    Andrea Mills 3: Still Buying Junk Food

    He took me to "look" at rings. He wasn't happy until I started looking at 3/4ct or better...I picked out the wrap. He wanted me to have a "big, fat rock" so people would know how much he loved me. I didn't need a ring for that but hell...it made him happy and I really do like my rings. His wedding band started sliding off when he started losing weight and he asked me to "put it somewhere safe". I figured the safest place was on my finger. Now I always have a part of him with me. His ring was the one I gave him the day we got married and he rarely took it off. The rings, together, symbolize how much love we had and how it hasn't ended just because he's no longer here. Ok, now I'm tearing up...
  13. Both babies were born on the weekend so they were probably just waiting to announce on a weekday (Friday night basically counts as the weekend since they wouldn’t announce that late on the night of the birth, I think). And I’m going to hell, but the first thing I thought when I read that Lauren had a long and difficult labour was, “Of course she did.” I mean, I’m sure she actually did. But it was probably magnified x10 because, you know... Lauren.
  14. Cleopatra7

    Josh, Anna, M'Kids 21: This Thread Can Drink Now

    In the Jim Crow South, black adults were not given titles like Mr., Mrs., or Miss by whites. If they bothered to use your name at all, they’d just call you by your first name or if you were slightly older and on paternalistic terms, you might be called Aunt or Uncle (this is where we get Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben from). A workaround this was to given black children names associated with royalty or aristocracy like Prince, Queen, King, Earl, Baron, etc., since the reasoning was if white people were going to just call you by your first name, they might as well just call you King or Queen. I assume Marquis or Marquise comes from this tradition.
  15. welshdoll

    Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

    I bet that Jeremy Vuolo is patting himself on the back (again) for moving far away from this mess...
  16. viii

    Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

    I don't want it to be Josh, I'm sick of it being Josh. He's been the black sheep of the family long enough, and I am tired of a lot of their fans believing he's an isolated incident. I want the head of the snake - I want Jim Bob to fall.
  17. singsingsing

    Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

    Don’t swallow your words just yet. In HSI’s own words, they investigate a wide variety of things: https://www.ice.gov/careers/criminal-investigator My advice is to never take what random people on the internet have to say at face value. So many people have no problem asserting their misconceptions or fantasies as fact.
  18. I like how Abbie’s “lady parts” are described as a “cockpit.”
  19. SassyPants

    Sierra 3: Paddle Faster I Hear Banjos

    Hey Duggars- I notice several of you commenting about sending prayers to Sierra and her family during this difficult time. Here’s a little advice. Prayers are great, but actually doing something to help is even better. How about volunteering to take a couple of the kids off grandma’s hands for a couple of hours, stopping by to collect and do some laundry or do a grocery store run. You all of have been generously blessed by the masses, and it’s time to pass on the gifts of your time, talent and treasure.
  20. singsingsing

    Duggar Business Investigated by Homeland Security 2

    When people are saying that they wish for it not to be child abuse, what they mean is that they hope that child abuse did not take place. They understand that whatever happened has already happened and their wishes won’t change that. It’s basically the same as hoping for something in the future that you can’t control. I can’t control whether or not [insert Duggar here] will abuse children in the future, but I hope he/she doesn’t. I can’t control whether or not [insert Duggar here] abused children in the past, but I hope he/she didn’t. Mostly what people are saying is that they would love for the Duggars to face justice, but they are not hoping that children were hurt just so that the Duggars can be punished.
  21. They are Quiverfull and in their culture the only sure way to measure a woman’s worth is via childbearing. Getting married is like graduating a real high school. Having a baby is like an AA degree. A few kids is a BA. A large family is like a master’s. Michelle Duggar and Kelly Bates have the equivalent of doctorates in their culture. These people can’t be understood through our experiences.
  22. Palimpsest

    Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

    Not only in the south. Although it is more open in the Bible Belt. And @amendgitan is also correct that ALERT is a paramilitary organisation. Granted Cadets and probably Basic is more like Fundie boy scouts and those kids can't march or drill to save their lives, but the more advanced courses are for the true believers. Guns, flying, and "Leadership Training." The deluded young men then go home and run unopposed for elected constable positions and suchlike in their Podunk little towns, but they are aiming for higher office. And they may get it. Eventually. It is not a coincidence that Zach Bates ran successfully for County Commissioner and was narrowly defeated when he ran for Mayor. It is not a coincidence that Nathan Bates and JD Duggar are appointed constables (and misuse their town police badges in the Bahamas,) And it is no coincidence that young Jed is running for State Rep. There are probably many more ALERT graduates that we have never heard of doing the same thing. And that uneducated and arrogant young puppy, Jedidiah Duggar, might actually win the seat. After 2016 nothing will surprise me. Scary stuff.
  23. ITA. Their deliberate misuse of words is grating. Here is my favorite response to gender reveal parties (ETA: I’ve posted this in the JRod thread as well, but not everyone reads there, and this is worth seeing):
  24. pook

    Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

    Oh COME ON! I was trying to get to bed early tonight. Jeeze Louise.
  25. Well the world is totes a strange place when Kanye gets his own thread on Free Jinger!
  26. MarblesMom

    JinJer 51: Can't Even Sell Donuts!

    Ruh roh, is Parmesan cheese the next Topic Of Doom.....?
  27. Destiny

    JinJer 51: Can't Even Sell Donuts!

    You'd be surprised. Most people don't know or care about weird large families. That story was huge to us, but practically nothing in most circles. Even mister destiny would likely have no idea who Jinger Vuolo is, and he knows EXACTLY what FJ is.
  28. Cleopatra7

    Duggar Business Investigated by Homeland Security 2

    I know this is BEC, but I’m annoyed that the darker skinned fetuses are called “ethnic” while the lighter skinned ones are apparently just the default for humanity and get no descriptors. I don’t think fetuses that young even have skin, much less skin color, but it’s just another window into the presuppositions that guide the pro life movement.
  29. tehfanglyfish

    Josh, Anna, M'Kids 21: This Thread Can Drink Now

    Re the naming laws... The US also has a very problematic past with forcing oppressed people to change their names to something that white folks feel is more appropriate. This happened with enslaved people and with Native Americans, especially children. (Luther Standing Bear is a good example of this.) I get wanting to protect kids from dumbass parents, but I see lots of room for abuse of naming regulations in the US.
  30. FilleMondaine

    Duggar Business Investigated by Homeland Security 2

    Dear Duggers, please read the above so that you can learn how normal people use the word, "defrauded".
  31. HerNameIsBuffy

    Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

    I’ll give her a pass for marrying him given how young and sheltered, but she became stupid Anna the second she knew what he was and stayed. She’s just as guilty as he is for bringing babies into that shitshow.
  32. Whydon'ttheyspeakintongues

    JinJer 51: Can't Even Sell Donuts!

    I visited Argentina and was invited to lunch with a family. They had cooked up a meat stew and served it to us without serving themselves - they didn't have enough to eat themselves! The house was cobbled together with old bricks and tin with a dirt floor. I made the decision to eat the meat - my partner was on the verge of saying something but I stopped him. I've had other vegetarians make negative comments about my decision but all I say is: when the poorest people you have ever met offer you their food and hospitality, then I think you should accept with grace and leave everything else behind.
  33. I'm an American Christian, never republican, and as liberal as they come. I hope and pray that the fundagelical Christians you describe are not the majority. They are loud though, and totally reprehensible. Anybody who knows the real gospel knows that working for social justice is an imperative.
  34. JesusPony

    Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

    I've been distracted this week by a different criminal reality star (rhymes with rump), so I missed news of the potential Duggar-pocalypse until today. The speculation about possible money laundering is where I'm leaning. They have created so many LLCs recently. Somebody on Reddit made a list: Their Medicorps buffoonery pissed off some people and could have drawn attention from the feds. Once the feds start poking through the Duggars' dealings, there's probably gonna be a lot of "buy used, steal the difference" type of stuff laying around. Maybe if you don't give your kids the tools to become productive members of secular society, they become criminals because that's the only way to support themselves. Nice going, JB. Anyway, gun-toting religious nut has compound raided... Branch Boobidians? I'll see myself out...
  35. jingernicolevuolo.com is now mine! it was worth it to me because I only paid 1$ for the year and I've had a really crappy day. Now what to do with it? ETA: yes I am usually a lurker! sorry to interrupt the conversation
  36. Kleine Vampirin

    Josh, Anna, M'Kids 21: This Thread Can Drink Now

    At least it's not Spurgeonella.
  37. RosyDaisy

    Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

    This is going to be interesting. I hope this investigation isn't about abuse or sex crimes. I do believe the Duggars are involved in something shady/criminal. Crime almost always runs rampant in cults. Rufus knows the Duggars and IBLP have hurt countless people. Count me too as having no sympathy for Anna. She actually had a way out. Her brother offered to help her. Most women in her position don't have that. Now I'm gonna raid my pantry for some snacks and drinks. I won't be going to bed anytime soon.
  38. I totally expected it would be me. After five years of trying and five failed ivf:s I remember feeling mostly resigned about my loss. I was pretty beat down about the whole thing by then though and devastated was pretty much already the default mode. I was also sure I would miscarry Miniway all the way up until his birth. It’s one of the reasons I don’t want to try for a second child. In crazy fundie-land I am the mother of 7 though since that’s how many fertilised eggs I have surely had inside my uterus. I guess they wouldn’t count the 4 that I brutally murdered by letting them become medical waste as my children? And what about the one that didn’t survive beeing frozen? And the 9 that weren’t good enough to freeze? Am I actually the mother of 21? That must be why I’m so freaking tired all the time!
  39. Yeah that ain’t God talking And someone just had this on FB in response
  40. Iamtheway

    Josh, Anna, M'Kids 21: This Thread Can Drink Now

    But that’s the thing. There is an obvious cultural difference between the US and Europe here (at least the part of Europe me and @SorenaJ are from). My child is not just mine to decide over any way I want. He doesn’t belong to me, he is his own person and a citizen in Sweden. As such the goverment protects him in some ways. I can’t name him Shithead and I can’t hit or abuse him. I can’t homeschool him either. He is also intiteled to both free health and dental care and free education and gets a free lunch at school. I guess it’s the social democrats in us. I understand these rules sound way too restrictive for Americans (and to some Swedes as well), but we are very different cultures. I for one have learnt a lot about how other cultures work on FJ and am trying to be less judgemental about things others do and think. (Except the spanking, I’ll never understand people that think that’s ok.) I have never really understood why people get so upset about the naming laws though. I have never heard about anyone being denied naming their kid something that’s culturally appropiate for them and if that does happen I am all for them getting approved. It might still be nice for them to know that the name they want means ”humungous turd” in Swedish before they make their final decision though. And if you desperatly want your child to be named Shithead no one is stopping you from calling them that. It just can’t be their official name.
  41. nelliebelle1197

    Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

    This is an unverified rumor. This is not a news source. It's a twitter account that is known for making things up. Please be more judicious in the future. Just a note of reality here - there is currently ONE original verified reporting source on this - Channel 5 in NWA. Every other media source is based on that. @Buzzard notes there have been no reported arrests. That is important. The Duggars have also been very quick to deny. So I am a little wary this morning. I hope it is not true for selfish reasons - I NEED J-Rod be Duggar adjacent, well-outfitted for a steep social climb, stat.
  42. feministxtian

    Andrea Mills 3: Still Buying Junk Food

    they're beautiful! THe thicker band is my husband's wedding ring
  43. Seculardaisy

    JinJer 51: Can't Even Sell Donuts!

    That apology is really scathing of Jinger and her toxic beliefs. I love it. It’s so much better than them just deleting the photo and moving on which is what I anticipated. Edited to add: I’m curious to know more about this part “The company that introduced us.” Do J&J have some sort of agency team looking for sponsorships for them?
  44. Beermeet

    Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

    JRod who? 😂 Pass the popcorn and spill the tea!
  45. Kanye is displaying textbook classic symptoms of a manic episode - the three biggest symptoms, in fact. No one but his family can tell if he’s not sleeping or has a decreased need for sleep, but I would guess Kanye isn’t sleeping much. He seems to be ticking off the unfocused/easily distracted box, too, but it’s not as obvious as the other stuff. Inflated self esteem/grandiosity: he’s said he’s a God, FFS. And this new religious kick fits into the same box. He’s the one, he’s interpreting the Word of God for us mere mortals because he’s better than anyone else. More talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking - has anyone heard him talk? Erratic, tangential, incoherent, and can’t seem to stop talking. Racing thoughts - even his talking can’t catch up to how fast his mind is going right now. He’s disorganized when he’s speaking because he can’t keep up with all the brilliant points and connections he’s making (or that he feels he’s making). This also fits in with another symptom of mania. Unrealistic goal setting - he’s going to do ALL THE THINGS because he can and should, he believes he has special insight and abilities that will make it possible for him to accomplish unbelievable things. Religious delusions are often part of a manic episode, too. Hearing God talking, for example, or having a special insight into religious practice/theology/gnosis/etc. is very well documented as a feature in a lot of people’s manic episodes. Kanye has said that he went off his medication because he felt it stifled his creativity. And as a grown man with an almost endless supply of money, he can do pretty much whatever he wants, including indulge his manic delusions completely. I can’t imagine what his kids and wife are doing to try to get through this. If he didn’t have all this money and wasn’t famous, he wouldn’t have this kind of platform, and he’d probably have to stop funding/indulging in his mania-fueled plans. But there’s literally nothing stopping him, and a lot of people happy to use his delusions for their own purposes.
  46. So don't be fooled by Jinger wearing pants, all the coffee pictures and hipster vibe. The ugly beliefs are still strong with these two (JinJer).
  47. neuroticcat

    Dillards 80: Everybody Take a Shot!

    I don’t think the mocking their kids is surprising at all. This is but one result of not seeing children as individuals with worth and dignity separate from parents. Kids are reflections/extensions of parents in fundie culture. And, while I totally get sharing a private laugh with your spouse over something your kid did - parenting does require a sense of humor for sanity! - posting it is another thing. It reminds me of the awful videos after Halloween where parents say they ate all the kid’s candy and post their reaction. Makes me furious every time.


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