But, @Alisamer , don’t you know that if doctors adopted these “miracle cures,” everyone would be healed and no one would ever get sick again and the entire medical field would go broke and collapse? /sarcasm

It‘s the notion that an „all natural approach“ is always better that bugs me the most. It‘s a completely false and romantic idea of what nature is.

A close friend once had an UTI. No big deal, just take antibiotics and you‘ll be fine. Except one evening they suddenly felt worse and started to deteriorate. At the ER, even the healthcare professionals started to get nervous until they were finally able to stabilize them. Turns out the bacteria were partly or fully resistant against the antibiotics taken and my friend got septic. 

5 minutes ago, HereticHick said:

Considering how anti-vax the Bontrager and Helferichs are, I wonder when they actually take their newborns to the doctor for the first time? never?

Pfff who needs doctors, babies are made to grow into children and then adults. Growing up is not an emergency. It‘s the deep state Fauci and Biden who invented well being check ups for babies, like they created the Plandemic! /sarcasm

Considering how anti-vax the Bontrager and Helferichs are, I wonder when they actually take their newborns to the doctor for the first time? never?

2 hours ago, HereticHick said:

Looks like the nearest hospital to Mountain Grove MO is Texas County Hospital in Houston, MO,  about 30 min. away.

Meanwhile, I wonder how Liz Bontrager feels about 20-year Christian Bowers. He is a bit of a snacc, as they say.  https://www.instagram.com/christianjetbowers/

I think 30 minutes is how long it took for Erin Bates to get to the hospital she gave birth in Northern Orlando, so that's not really an excuse that they can use.

James River Church claims Driscoll was trying to destroy their church, wants him to repent

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