6 hours ago, feministxtian said:
That's some bullshit right there...college? They don't give a fuck how you got the answer. Social Skills? How the hell can you learn "social skills" when it's like a riot on a daily basis, bomb threats, gangs? You're too busy trying to avoid attention so you don't get your ass beat. Bullying, semi-illiterate teachers, fuck that noise...I can't tell you how many teachers' notes I sent back with the grammar corrected. I talked to the teachers in my family and they all sort of shrugged their shoulders...
I can't speak for everyone else, but my and my family's college experience required showing work, as did all education leading up to it. It didn't matter if the subject was math, chemistry or social sciences. Even in subjects that had no math equations, you had to 'show your work' by properly citing sources or be in danger of plagiarizing.
I don't know how you can learn anything in the settings you describe. School systems are woefully underfunded and lacking resources to battle all the things you mention. I was trying to make the point that things like social skills SHOULD be part of formal education in addition to learning math and facts etc. I'm sorry I didn't make myself clear. I was also specifically referencing my husband's situation; his was in the early 90's at a private college-prep school. In his particular situation, gangs and bomb threats etc. were not something that were prohibiting him learning social skills. Again, I agree with you that schools today are in desperate need of major help.
P.S. 2 year degrees, tech degrees and all other vocational certifications should never be diminished. I respect your degree and the expertise that represents. Maybe I misunderstood your sarcasm.