3 hours ago, Alisamer said:

Who do they think this mysterious "they" are? Deep state? The government? Lizard people? Illuminati? Pharmaceutical companies? Some combo of those?

Probably a combo. I will be among the first to condemn the US medical system - we need a government-funded, government-run single payer system, end of story. But spending big money on treatments or "clinics" that have no reputable protocols or outcomes, AFAICT, is not the own  these folks think it is. 

Really hope that however this ends that Justin is able to live as much of a pain-free life as possible, enjoying his family, friends, and whatever else makes him happy. 

39 minutes ago, AprilQuilt said:

So sad for the Dillards. When you lose a baby at that stage - whatever word you use for the loss - you have so little to prove they ever existed. You get so little time with them. I can't judge anyone for taking pictures, nor for sharing them if that's what they want to do. That was the only time in the world Jill and Derick got to hold their little girl, and obviously it is devastatingly sad but when you are in that position it is also so incredibly precious and full of awe - even joy, in a way. It's an honour to get that time with a baby you would have loved to carry for longer, and it's natural to want to share that pride.

It is so hard to tell the world you are a parent to a child who isn't here. These are the photos that make that real, in a way. It's the only moment with their daughter they'll ever get to share.

Semantics-wise, whether or not Jill technically cleared the 20-week mark that would magically designate Isla stillborn not miscarried, she laboured to deliver a clearly recognisable human infant. Her body changed carrying this baby and she may even have started to feel her move. It's a different experience to a first trimester mc (which can also be truly awful). It was probably not unlike her other births, just to a much smaller baby they knew wouldn't come home with them. And that's a horrendous thing to go through.

sorry, maybe this sounds speculative on my part. I mean this is how it felt to me. The one 'good' thing about being in the midst of my second trimester miscarriage was feeling I got to do this thing for my baby, that I would get to meet her and be with her for a little while. I loved her very much. I wish she could have stayed.

Bickle will be closing the organization's doors and opening a new, smaller organization.  (Because a name change will obscure the toxic, slimy ick no doubt)

https://www.threads.net/@thekansascitystar/post/C51Ouv8Jnk1/?xmt=AQGz3KbGD8dZdO0gH2IzZTL251K18EBALQ5Swa9k8EDmvA

So sad for the Dillards. When you lose a baby at that stage - whatever word you use for the loss - you have so little to prove they ever existed. You get so little time with them. I can't judge anyone for taking pictures, nor for sharing them if that's what they want to do. That was the only time in the world Jill and Derick got to hold their little girl, and obviously it is devastatingly sad but when you are in that position it is also so incredibly precious and full of awe - even joy, in a way. It's an honour to get that time with a baby you would have loved to carry for longer, and it's natural to want to share that pride.

It is so hard to tell the world you are a parent to a child who isn't here. These are the photos that make that real, in a way. It's the only moment with their daughter they'll ever get to share.

Semantics-wise, whether or not Jill technically cleared the 20-week mark that would magically designate Isla stillborn not miscarried, she laboured to deliver a clearly recognisable human infant. Her body changed carrying this baby and she may even have started to feel her move. It's a different experience to a first trimester mc (which can also be truly awful). It was probably not unlike her other births, just to a much smaller baby they knew wouldn't come home with them. And that's a horrendous thing to go through.

9 minutes ago, SassyPants said:

Wait are we talking about that quilted coat? Was that coat $600? I thought AH rarely shopped for clothing outside of Goodwill?

It appears to be from Potter's Daughter.  At least, that's a site that Abbie mentioned.  The person who runs it seems to repurpose old quilts into coats and jackets.  I think it's a nice, artsy idea but it would make more sense if Abbie made it herself or commissioned someone to reuse one of her old quilts.  The coats are around $600 and above.  It's right up Braggie's alley though.  She ends up with a one-of-a-kind item that's super-special and expensive.  She thinks that she's great at interior decorating and has a keen sense of style.