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WhatWouldJohnCrichtonDo?

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Sigh. One of these days, I really am going to dislocate an eyeball rolling my eyes at one of your puns. :pb_rollseyes:

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HerNameIsBuffy

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12 hours ago, WhatWouldJohnCrichtonDo? said:

Sigh. One of these days, I really am going to dislocate an eyeball rolling my eyes at one of your puns. :pb_rollseyes:

WWJCD - 

Be careful honey, if you keep rolling your eyes your pretty face will freeze that way.

Love,

Buffy's Mom

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HerNameIsBuffy

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This  post actually depressed me.  I used to have a lot of "friends" irl, most of whom I didn't like.  

Now?  If you don't count the handful sharing my DNA or the one whose name is on my marriage license the number of people to whom I speak of my own volition irl is pathetically small.  Like I'd be embarrassed to admit how many fingers I'd have left over if I counted them on one hand small.

If we ever lost the internet then I'm JD Salinger without the talent or money.

I should probably be concerned that I'm very okay with being so unlikeable.  

I saw a test on psychcentral (I think) ages ago along the lines of "Are you a sociopath?"  I skipped right over that one because I'm kind of afraid to find out.  

Kidding....I'm not a sociopath.  Probably.   I'm a neurotic INTJ with a pathological fear of intimacy who would be sorted into ravenclaw while being most like Tinkerbelle of all the Disney characters.

I took those quizzes.  For science.

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    • EvilAthiest

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      57 minutes ago, Sabine said:

      the whole family is fucked beyond believe, but if one or some of the guys have certain fetishes then that will lead to abuse. And generally it is always the weakest, the designated scape goat that will get abused. 

      I do not believe you meant to offend people who have been abused.  I was with you right up until the last sentence.  But that last sentence, on top of this entire situation along with years of horrible memories, made me burst into tears.

      Many people reading this are SURVIVORS of abuse.  It is not “always the weakest”.  You must not understand the strength it takes to overcome (as best we can) unspeakable acts that happened when we were innocent children.  WE ARE NOT WEAK.  WE ARE SURVIVORS.

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    • Antimony

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      5 minutes ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

      She was reading primary source transcripts from Pacer,  but Idk if they were full or not.

      If it's the "Lawyer Reacts Live: Ethan Klein Sued by Ryan Kavanagh, Josh Duggar major loss in court." video from 1 day ago, I watched it, and I think she's reading the document titled "OPINION AND ORDER granting 68 Motion in Limine as to Joshua James Duggar (1); denying 72 Motion in Limine as to Joshua James Duggar (1). Signed by Honorable Timothy L. Brooks on December 1, 2021. (cc via CM/ECF: U.S. Probation Office, U.S. Marshals Service) (src) (Entered: 12/01/2021)" which I've read (it's free on Court Listener, no PACER required) and the only transcripts given are the following;

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      The following colloquy between the Government’s counsel and Mrs. Holt is compelling:
      Q: Whenever you attended church with the Duggars, did you ever hold a position of authority within the church?
      A. No, ma’am.
      Q. Were you ever a pastor of the church?
      A. No, ma’am.
      Q. Were you ever an elder of the church?
      A. No, ma’am.
      Q. Were you ever on any sort of church council?
      A. No.
      Q. Did you hold any sort of role besides parishioner within the church?
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      The rest of the document is summary and opinion of the Holt and Jim Bob testimonies and commentary on Rules 404 and 414 and precedent for including Past Bad Acts. This is, to my knowledge, the only snippet of transcript we've gotten so far from Bobye or anybody else. 

      Edit: She also reads the minutes of one day of the trial for this, but they're just a list of who spoke when, no transcripts. The minutes from Friday are on PACER but must be bought. Other minutes are free on Court Listener. 

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    • HerNameIsBuffy

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      1 minute ago, Antimony said:

      But the reports Emily D Baker had about Bobye's pretrial testimony didn't include full transcripts, right? I haven't seen any full transcripts get released yet and I'm itching for them (because I'm a Nosy Binch, y'all, and I love to see stuff for myself - I'd rather have primary documents if given the choice). If there are full transcripts, I want them, but I know Baker read the Judge's Motion to Include Past Bad Acts, but that document has only excerpts from her testimony. 

      I wouldn't be surprised if that was part of the prosecutions opening statement, to include some recordings, if they thought Holt would be on the Friday schedule, but I agree it's weird that it wasn't reported elsewhere. 

      One person that might be worth asking is No Candles, since he's active on the Reddit, but I expect he's swamped with questions. 

      Yes, it's one of his articles that came out about the Jury Selection, because that's where we first get the witness list in full. 

      She was reading primary source transcripts from Pacer,  but Idk if they were full or not.

    • Shrubbery

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      33 minutes ago, Antimony said:

      I'm not saying if only someone had done something, teenage-Josh-the-pest would never have turned into adult-Josh-the-sex-criminal. I don‘t know, maybe some people just have evil in them, and his actions then weren’t just excusable  teenager acting out stuff.  Maybe he would have changed, maybe he wouldn’t have, who can say? 
       

      But it’s like these people did everything they could to make sure he would turn out the way he did.

      And then spent the next almost twenty years trying to cover up everything. 



       
      I lost the quote, can’t seem to get it back …

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    • Antimony

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      4 minutes ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

      The youtube channel I mentioned, Emily D Baker wasn't reading news reports, she was going off the court transcripts and showed them on the screen.  There was nothing in there about a bigger house.  If it was said it wasn't said in court on Monday for pretrial.

      But the reports Emily D Baker had about Bobye's pretrial testimony didn't include full transcripts, right? I haven't seen any full transcripts get released yet and I'm itching for them (because I'm a Nosy Binch, y'all, and I love to see stuff for myself - I'd rather have primary documents if given the choice). If there are full transcripts, I want them, but I know Baker read the Judge's Motion to Include Past Bad Acts, but that document has only excerpts from her testimony. 

      I wouldn't be surprised if that was part of the prosecutions opening statement, to include some recordings, if they thought Holt would be on the Friday schedule, but I agree it's weird that it wasn't reported elsewhere. 

      One person that might be worth asking is No Candles, since he's active on the Reddit, but I expect he's swamped with questions. 

      2 minutes ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

      I read somewhere the defense had 4, but I don't remember where.  McCandless maybe?

      Yes, it's one of his articles that came out about the Jury Selection, because that's where we first get the witness list in full. 

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