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Screw terrorists!

crazydaffodil

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Sorry to bring this down to a level of seriousness, @Destiny, but I just have to say how the way things work in the world today are so messed up.  That there are actually people who think that they get the upper hand by bringing down innocent people with such crazy and ridiculous actions!

Never mind the recent drama here.  The terror attacks in today in Belgium put that into perspective.  Lives were lost.  Families are ripped apart.  Innocent lives.  People who were doing nothing to provoke those who attacked them.  People just conducting their every day lives.  This happened in Paris in November.  This happened in America in 2001.  It happens in other places around the world that we don't hear so much about.

Why?  For revenge?  Because you think you are going to get 72 virgins?  Have you not seen Jeff Dunham's act to know that this ain't gonna happen!?!?! 

I just don't understand humanity anymore. 

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Down vote me if you support these actions, but please give a positive rep vote to show your support for the victims of terror around the world, especially those suffering today in Belgium.

 

Just sayin...

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Fascinated

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I'm sorry, but I'm finding this in poor taste.  I am taken aback by your quest for upvotes, and the idea that those of us who do not do so support these actions.  

A family member's friend had a very close call in Brussels this morning.  Many others were not so lucky.  I think your post actually trivializes the situation.  

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crazydaffodil

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Not searching for upvotes whatsoever.  I'm trying to show solidarity amongst those of us who support those who were victimized.  I could care less about rep points, but rather am looking for a way for people to unite against terrorism.

I too know people in Belgium and feel awful for what they went through, so to suggest that I am trivializing this is a tad insulting.  But I respect your view and thank you for your comment.

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The upvote/downvote thing feels inappropriate to me too. How about doing something like finding a new avatar picture to show support for the victims and posting it so that other members could use it?

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laPapessaGiovanna

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I really have no idea how you can compare on line bickering with terroristic attacks. 

You weren't here that awful night when all hell broke loose in Paris. When members in chat were trying to understand if everyone was alive and safe. When everyone couldn't shake off the shivers of fear and we were trying to comfort each other. When our on line dissension mattered nothing. When everyone was so worried for one of our most disruptive member (now banned) who is half french. You don't know how this community can be caring and supportive.

Please really don't do like our monster-politicians, don't mix a true tragedy with the nothingness of words void of relevance. 

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crazydaffodil

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18 minutes ago, laPapessaGiovanna said:

I really have no idea how you can compare on line bickering with terroristic attacks. 

You weren't here that awful night when all hell broke loose in Paris. When members in chat were trying to understand if everyone was alive and safe. When everyone couldn't shake off the shivers of fear and we were trying to comfort each other. When our on line dissension mattered nothing. When everyone was so worried for one of our most disruptive member (now banned) who is half french. You don't know how this community can be caring and supportive.

Please really don't do like our monster-politicians, don't mix a true tragedy with the nothingness of words void of relevance. 

Except that is my whole point!  This is a true tragedy and what I'm trying to do is rally support for those who were directly involved in it.  I could really care less about upvotes.  If you want to do some other form of support, I'm totally for that.  I just thought that was a quick and easy way to do it.

And you don't know me enough to know what I know and what I don't know.  I lived through attacks myself, personally.  I had many people wondering how I was doing and went hours/days before they could reach me and know I was ok.  I've been there, ok.  Maybe I didn't suffer the deep consequences that other people did, but I'm not totally out in left field on this either.

All I'm trying to say is, let us show our support for the world and those who have been victimized.  Stand up against these awful terrorists.  End of story.  If you want to make something else out of this post than what is intended, that is on you.

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Palimpsest

Posted (edited)

I have a feeling that @crazydaffodil is being misinterpreted.  

To quote:  "Never mind the recent drama here.  The terror attacks in today in Belgium put that into perspective. Lives were lost.  Families are ripped apart.  Innocent lives.  People who were doing nothing to provoke those who attacked them.  People just conducting their every day lives.  This happened in Paris in November.  This happened in America in 2001.  It happens in other places around the world that we don't hear so much about."  

Well, I agree.  I was just musing that I haven't felt safe from terrorist attacks myself, and have been worried about loved ones vulnerable to them in many different parts of the world since ... 1968.  I was 13.  

Since then, too many people I have known personally have been killed or injured in acts of terrorism.  It is just the scale of the weapons, the actors, and the amount of world attention that has changed.

Yes, the upvote and downvote thing does seem a little crass.  And I feel old and very sad.

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Maggie Mae

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1 minute ago, Palimpsest said:

I have a feeling that @crazydaffodil is being misinterpreted.  

To quote:  "Never mind the recent drama here.  The terror attacks in today in Belgium put that into perspective. Lives were lost.  Families are ripped apart.  Innocent lives.  People who were doing nothing to provoke those who attacked them.  People just conducting their every day lives.  This happened in Paris in November.  This happened in America in 2001.  It happens in other places around the world that we don't hear so much about."  

Well, I agree.  I was just musing that I haven't felt safe from terrorist attacks myself, and have been worried about loved ones vulnerable to them in many different parts of the world since ... 1968.  I was 13.  

Since then, too many people I have known personally have been killed or injured in acts of terrorism.  It is just the scale of the weapons, the actors, and the amount of world attention that has changed.

Yes, the upvote and downvote thing does seem a little crass.  And I feel old and very sad.

The upvote and downvote this is just something that people do on facebook. I doubt she means any harm by it. 

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Fascinated

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'Down vote me if you support these actions...'

I am flabbergasted by this.  

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crazydaffodil

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4 minutes ago, Fascinated said:

'Down vote me if you support these actions...'

I am flabbergasted by this.  

Flabbergast all you want, my point by saying that is that I really don't care about upvotes and downvotes.  You can all send me into negative rep for all I care!  I was just trying to look for a way for all of us to simply unite in a show of support.  Forgive me for thinking of a simple, self-serving manner.

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laPapessaGiovanna

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1 hour ago, crazydaffodil said:

Except that is my whole point!  This is a true tragedy and what I'm trying to do is rally support for those who were directly involved in it.  I could really care less about upvotes.  If you want to do some other form of support, I'm totally for that.  I just thought that was a quick and easy way to do it.

And you don't know me enough to know what I know and what I don't know.  I lived through attacks myself, personally.  I had many people wondering how I was doing and went hours/days before they could reach me and know I was ok.  I've been there, ok.  Maybe I didn't suffer the deep consequences that other people did, but I'm not totally out in left field on this either.

All I'm trying to say is, let us show our support for the world and those who have been victimized.  Stand up against these awful terrorists.  End of story.  If you want to make something else out of this post than what is intended, that is on you.

I know nothing about you. What I know is that you are a recent member that wasn't with us in a moment when I strongly felt the support of this community. And you couldn't write a post about a terroristic attack that left many dead, hundreds wounded and everyone scared without a snide remark about  situations on this forum about which you have judgingly written a lot. I was only reacting to the tone of your post that I perceive as sensationalistic, alarmist and banal. All things I can do without. Maybe I am on my last nerve because for the whole evening I listened to people saying "fuori tutti i mussulmani dal Veneto" (all the Muslims must go away from Veneto) and idiocies of the likes, so maybe I read in your post things you didn't mean to. If that's the case then I am sorry.

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crazydaffodil

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8 minutes ago, laPapessaGiovanna said:

I know nothing about you. What I know is that you are a recent member that wasn't with us in a moment when I strongly felt the support of this community. And you couldn't write a post about a terroristic attack that left many dead, hundreds wounded and everyone scared without a snide remark about  situations on this forum about which you have judgingly written a lot. I was only reacting to the tone of your post that I perceive as sensationalistic, alarmist and banal. All things I can do without. Maybe I am on my last nerve because for the whole evening I listened to people saying "fuori tutti i mussulmani dal Veneto" (all the Muslims must go away from Veneto) and idiocies of the likes, so maybe I read in your post things you didn't mean to. If that's the case then I am sorry.

You did read into my post things that were not meant and your apology is accepted.  Please accept mine for offending you are anyone else.  That was never my intent.

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Curious

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So I'm curious (hahaha!) why everyone just immediately jumped to the conclusion that this was an inappropriate post.   The last line is maybe ill-advised, but as @Maggie Mae pointed out this is common on facebook and I assume other site with upvotes like reddit.

@crazydaffodil has now explained the intent of the post like 3 times and people are still bent out of shape, apparently.

It's fine to question intent, as always, but I really don't like the attitude that seems to be redeveloping that no explanation is good enough and as a result people can just keep harping on, whether it's a new person or a veteran member or anyone in between.

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laPapessaGiovanna

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12 minutes ago, Curious said:

So I'm curious (hahaha!) why everyone just immediately jumped to the conclusion that this was an inappropriate post.   The last line is maybe ill-advised, but as @Maggie Mae pointed out this is common on facebook and I assume other site with upvotes like reddit.

@crazydaffodil has now explained the intent of the post like 3 times and people are still bent out of shape, apparently.

It's fine to question intent, as always, but I really don't like the attitude that seems to be redeveloping that no explanation is good enough and as a result people can just keep harping on, whether it's a new person or a veteran member or anyone in between.

Probably because the smell of the penis envy is still lingering in the air with other judgy bits here and there. This tainted my vision. Couple it with raw feelings on the current topic and the result is that I am prone to interpret things in the worst way. Anyway, I apologised and accepted @crazydaffodil's apologies. 

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Fascinated

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32 minutes ago, Curious said:

So I'm curious (hahaha!) why everyone just immediately jumped to the conclusion that this was an inappropriate post.   The last line is maybe ill-advised, but as @Maggie Mae pointed out this is common on facebook and I assume other site with upvotes like reddit.

@crazydaffodil has now explained the intent of the post like 3 times and people are still bent out of shape, apparently.

It's fine to question intent, as always, but I really don't like the attitude that seems to be redeveloping that no explanation is good enough and as a result people can just keep harping on, whether it's a new person or a veteran member or anyone in between.

Ok. Will rearrange self and apologize for taking the don't upvote me if you agree with or support or condone or whatever, these attacks.  I apologize for my attitude.

That sentence didn't even make sense. I apologize for that, too.

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violynn

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29 minutes ago, Curious said:

So I'm curious (hahaha!) why everyone just immediately jumped to the conclusion that this was an inappropriate post.   The last line is maybe ill-advised, but as @Maggie Mae pointed out this is common on facebook and I assume other site with upvotes like reddit.

@crazydaffodil has now explained the intent of the post like 3 times and people are still bent out of shape, apparently.

It's fine to question intent, as always, but I really don't like the attitude that seems to be redeveloping that no explanation is good enough and as a result people can just keep harping on, whether it's a new person or a veteran member or anyone in between.

I always find "upvote if you support/downvote if you're on the side of...". or "share if you agree, ignore if you don't care that...." types of posts just rude, if not click-begging.  I am not saying that was OP's intent at all.  But how is upvoting a blog entry on freejinger.org in any way supportive of the people victimized by terrorists, that's what I' m wondering.  And how is not voting, or downvoting in any way non-supportive of anyone but OP?  It is reductive of the situations all over the world where people have been living every day with terrorism.  Where is the concern by OP for all those victims?  I support victims of terror attacks in my own way, as does OP, but no one else is implying that down or up voting a blog entry has any possible implication on support, @Curious.  

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Curious

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As I said, it's pretty common on sites like facebook.   My guess is that since there are very few tangible ways that most people can actively support other countries in times like this, it's a way to try to bring people who are like minded together.

I don't post this type of stuff, personally, but I see it on my facebook feed all. the. time.

My ONLY issue here, is that even after explaining the intent of the post (more than once), people continued to post negatively about it.   It's a shitty attitude that FJ had in 2012 and earlier and I don't like seeing shades of it in 2016 when we are well past that type of environment.

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violynn

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I understand your thoughts on it, Curious.  I don't think anyone is picking on OP, it looks as if they're trying to let her know the votes thing is offensive to them, and why.  If it were me, and I didn't mean to be offensive or looking for votes, I'd have edited to remove the request for votes, or commented on the other topic supporting Brussels and our members.  And really, because they're doing it on facebook, doesn't make it less objectionable here, if you see what I mean.  

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Curious

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19 minutes ago, violynn said:

I'd have edited to remove the request for votes

Well, no you wouldn't have because once you publish a blog entry you can't edit it.  It's also possible that this was the first stop @crazydaffodil made on FJ, so posted before realizing there were threads on the topic.   If a member wishes to have further commentary on their own blog space here instead of or in addition to posting on threads they are allowed to do that.  It's kind of the point of having blogs, after all.

I didn't say it made it "less objectionable" here, though I'm not sure it's actually objectionable anywhere, just not my personal style. My point was, that it's not exactly uncommon in many places, so a newer member may not realize it's different here.   I still contend once intent has been established, there is no reason to keep harping on the topic over and over.   This goes for whether the member is brand new or has been here since yuku.

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violynn

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Thank you for letting me know about the no edits!  You're right, I'd have commented that I was sorry I'd offended, wish I could edit but couldn't, and hoped people would read my comment.  

That's the gamble when writing a blog.  Some might not like what you have to say, and the great thing about fj is that all members are allowed to post (mostly) what they like here, and members are (mostly) allowed to disagree with it with votes and comments.  

Also agree that kind of posting in general is a person's opinion, apporove or not.  Maybe those commenters, as you posted about OP, went straight to writing their comments before reading others.  

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crazydaffodil

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Look, I'm sorry you are all offended by the mere act of upvoting for a common source of support was such a bad idea.  I honestly did not think it was rude or offensive.  I was only looking for a way to show solidarity in support for the victims and against terrorism.  Nothing more, nothing less.

I appreciate the support given here by @Palimpsest and @Curious, but I don't need to be defended here.  I am a newbie and don't always understand the rules of decorum, but I am not a troll or a source of instigation.  I speak my mind and if you don't like it, you can down vote it or ignore it, I don't care.  I'm not here to make tons of friends and get as many up votes as possible.  That shit means nothing to me.  (Isn't that like the fourth time I've said that now?)  

 

Also, I have changed my avatar to the Belgium flag in support of those in that country.  Hopefully this is better received than my initial suggestion..

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Curious

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2 minutes ago, crazydaffodil said:

I appreciate the support given here by @Palimpsest and @Curious, but I don't need to be defended here.

I'm not necessarily "defending you" per se.   It's more a commentary on the current atmosphere on FJ in general right now.  There is a certain amount of, what I feel is, backsliding into past behaviors that were unpleasant, uncomfortable and unwanted by the majority of the membership and I don't want to let that get a foothold when we have worked hard, as a community, to overcome that prior atmosphere.

I'm not doing anything I wouldn't do for any other member, new or veteran.

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violynn

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9 minutes ago, crazydaffodil said:

Look, I'm sorry you are all offended by the mere act of upvoting for a common source of support was such a bad idea.  I honestly did not think it was rude or offensive.  I was only looking for a way to show solidarity in support for the victims and against terrorism.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Happy to upvote this! :D

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THERetroGamerNY

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Not a fan of clicktivism, which is what 'Like this if you support me' is. Upvoting you does nothing for, or against, violence in this world............. But, it's also harmless in this situation, so whatever. Click. =)

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crazydaffodil

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Thank you, @THERetroGamerNY.  I am not as tech savvy as most here.  Obviously upvoting does nothing about violence, you are correct.  It was just meant as a source of solidarity.

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Palimpsest

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My reaction to this particular post was from the heart and in response to the actual words written.  

I thought @crazydaffodil was being misunderstood and said so.  That is all. :)

 

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