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Picking out a book, check it in, check it out. (version 2. FU firefox)


OnceUponATime

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Once upon a time there was a girl who loved books. One day she discovered the magical invention called a library. She went there and lived in glorious bliss happily ever after. The END.

 

I'm an avid reader. There isn't much I won't read. I'm trying to encourage myself to actively branch out though in what I read. Genres that I tend to gravitate to are crime, thrillers, fantasy and historical fiction. Sometimes I binge read my way through an author/section of the library/genre other times I take it slow. I can also sometimes be found reading 'free trash should-not-be-called-a-novel' from amazon on my kindle. This is usually after in my book-moodiness I haven't found a book that fits my mood/energy levels and thus need something completely mindless to sooth me. Next to libraries I think e-book readers are the next best invention. I can get in moods where I want to read but can't find the right book. I can open my kindle, browse through the first page of all my books (way too many!) and find one that works for me in that moment. It is bliss.

Today I went to the library for the first time this year. It was recently upgraded and has been slightly rearranged.

Things I like about it:

  • they added more chairs
  • it feels like there is a lot more room
  • there is prudently a public toilet downstairs
  • self check out!
    • complete with really intuitive software/hardware (well except when it looked like I was meant to scan a barcode on my card that doesn't exist)
    • it's not broken
    • it doesn't look like it was made in the 90's (like most other libraries self check outs do)
  • self check in!
    • no more arguing with the librarian that you bought your book back 10 minutes ago
  • increased limits
    • I can now get out 7 books at a time! 7! 5 years ago that number was 3!

Things that could have been done better:

  • the toilet stinks. Either keep the door closed or make sure that gross toilet smell doesn’t happen
  • there are no secret reading corner chairs. All of them are circled around tables and none are really out of the way
  • lots of the information that was previously hanging up has gone.
    • I would like there to be information about how many DVDs I can lend at a time above the dvd rack.
    • Somewhere I would like to find information about how many books I can borrow at once without having to click through to the right place on a website
    • The information that is there is scattered around randomly - I shouldn't have to use one particular desk to find out that I can get books from other libraries sent here, and how to do it. Either put it all together in a folder, or hang it on the wall in large, or put it on every desk
  • they split up the fiction section into two or three parts (due to new layout)
    • this needs to be signed in some way. Fiction doesn't end at Gabaldon
  • the signage needs improving
    • give us a floor map please
    • give better signage that is actually visible/usable
  • the new display rack sucks. I only saw it because I was looking for it
    • for the love of all booklovers please have a theme
  • books written by local/native/whatever you call them authors aren't marked. You cannot search for them.
    • as a foreigner and second-language reader, I would love to know which books are actually written by local authors. I can't search for it in the catalog that I have found and there is no marking on the books to show they aren't translated (or rather are written by locals)
  • some books have genre stickers, but the majority don't. Either do it, or don't, don't half-arse it
    • I would prefer to have laminated cards of "you enjoyed this? try this author/these books" to look at than sticker
  • they screwed up the non-fiction. they more than screwed it up. I have been hoping for two-ish years I would get used to the Dewey Demise - but no. and they just made this worse.
  • the opening hours still suck. 4 hours is the largest amount of hours they are open in a day.

But I did apply to go work there.

 

My bitch about organization/loosing Dewey continues below but is hidden because WoT warning

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Adult Fiction

The fiction section comprises of three languages. Yes they are nice enough to separate them. Browsing the English section (apparently that's meant to be my native language) gets you evil glares. I'm not joking. I can't read enough of the 3rd language to have ventured into that small section.

By far the largest selection of books are all in a foreign language (to me, native language to the locals) lets call it Llan. I'm just taking a guess but I'm assuming at least 70% of those books are translated. There is no way to tell but omg some of the translated books suck. Do not read badly translated (ie literally translated) books, especially fantasy. Some phrasing used in English fantasy sound really stilted and weird in Llan. In my opinion a well translated book really shouldn't read differently than a book originally written in that language. Llan has different dialects/vocabulary, a bit like British English and American English. This is the reason why I wish they would mark which books are local, the phrasing is different, the words can be different. Sometimes I can even tell you where an author comes from based on their writing. I'm calling that a Llan fluency milestone.

Anyway other than the not marking of books by local authors I really don't like the lack of signage of the new layout. Sure I'll get used to it, but I don't think I should have to. I think any user, new or old, should be able to easily find their way in a library. This means signing well. If due to random reasons you can't group A-Z all in continuous rows, please put up signs hanging from the ceiling to notify my which letters are where. It really is that easy to make me happy (this is the info that is needed on the floor plan btw!). On the ends of the rows please have signs that show you want letters go where.  like <- Al-Ba  Aa-Al -> . Now I know which side to go to to find books written by Ackroyd. It really is that simple.

 

Non-fiction

I positively hate the non-fiction section at my library. I love Dewey Decimal (and other like based systems). We were taught how to use it in elementary school. We were shown how books were grouped, and how each grouping had a number assigned. We were given a research project to do about a famous person (I think we got to choose out of a list). Part of that project was to work out which Dewey numbers would be interesting for us. If you had Hitler - you'd have a Dewey number for biographies, WWII, geography-Germany etc for each section. If you had Van Gogh: biographies, art, geography-Netherlands etc. We never had to memorize which numbers were which, it was all about knowing how to use them (and look them up). Navigating my way in Dewey is intuitive to me.

My local library used to have a similar system. They recently got rid of it and replaced it with a picture system. It categorizes in a similar way (although I find the overlapping themes weird) but navigating the bookshelves is a bitch.

This system has 13 main categories each with their own color. Within each category there are sub-categories (Like Art:painting,photography etc). These all have a separate symbol. Each symbol has the color of the main category it is attached to. There are about 48 in total. That is a lot. Each subcategory has it's own themes, and each theme has subthemes.

I'll use the book The Hitler of history by John Lukacs as an example. It has a Dewey number of 943.086 L or something like that. In my library it has a location of History [jade]-> 20th-21st century[high-rise buildings] -> WWII -> Hitler.

I personally find it easier to find the location of 943 in a library where the numbers go from 0-999 then find history in a library where the colors go from - oh wait they don't.

While I do think there are some positives of going with a color/symbol system I wish they had just combined it with the already existing number system (I think some libraries have, mine didn't. I bet the librarians are maths-hater at mine). You could also do some cool stuff like coloring the floor, nice signage. Without that non-numbers suck!

This is how navigation works in my library:

There is a list of the categories and sub-categories showing the symbols. Nice right? Well no, the order of the list is not the order they are found in (I initially thought they were. that would make sense right? but no, after walking around in circles confused I found out they are randomly located)

There are large boxes that are printed (on possibly all 4 sides but I'm not too sure) with the colored symbols. These are placed (not hung) on top of the tall racks. It hurts my neck to try and see them. Plus - you can't ever see all the colors at once. I have walked around the non-fiction section testing this (probably much to the amusement of other users). Just remember there are 48 boxes! and we have 5 rows of double-shelving...

Did they paint the shelving in the respective colors? no (ok I get that could cause problems when your collection expands).
Did they tape thick lines along the floor so you could look down the aisles to see red? no
Did they put signs on the ends of the rows with the symbols showing which ones were found down there? no (I am going to write and suggest this one).

You must stretch your neck (if you're short like me) and look up and try and make sense of the jumble of boxes.

Then you get to looking for the correct theme. These are occasionally taped to the shelving. They get points for using large letters. Unfortunately (and the library just redid all the shelving less than two months ago!) these labels aren't always in the correct place. They are also not sticking out so you have to walk down the aisle and read them all to find the right one(after all there is no order to them, not even alphabetic). The sub-theme is only found on the spine-labels on the books. I'm not so fussed about that - except sometimes they are stuck onto the back. You can't even also figure out if you're then looking in the right area because how do you know which two sub-themes your desired sub-theme is wedged between.

I miss my Dewey numbers. I thought maybe I'd get used to this new system. I find it worse every time I use it. And I didn't even get into how they categorize stuff (depression is found under health not psychology. ADHD is found under education. I think it would make more sense to put depression and ADHD under psychology. Otherwise it's just filled with I don't know what).

And just to illustrate my point a bit. I was looking in the language section today and noticed that 4 of the 5 English dictionaries were stuck between the French courses and the French dictionaries. They should have been with the single English dictionary next to the English courses and not next to other dictionaries. Oops - and I foresee a few more of those mistakes in the next year or so.

I really should mention that I do love my library, I find libraries great.

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I love my library...I love me some books! I like mystery and fiction. Libraries, if you return your books on time are great! Lol

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RabbitKM

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I love libraries.  I have two library cards (ie for two major cities that I split my time in), so I get double the access, plus I have my university library.  It's amazing, because for e-books, I can access both library systems on Overdrive.  

I too have noticed the demise of the Dewey.  My university still does it, but the local libraries don't.  It doesn't bother me much, though, because my local branches are so tiny anyway, there wouldn't be enough books to warrant it.  So for fiction, there's maaybe 5 bookshelves worth of books, alphabetized by author's last name.   Nonfiction is just a room with categorical labels above each shelf.  The silver lining is that even though my local branches are tiny, I can request almost any book under the sun, because the entire library system is huge.  There must be over a hundred branches. 

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clueliss

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I'm still lamenting the demise of real card catalogs.  

But then I also love the ability to 'shop' for a book online, put a hold on it and then get an email when it is ready.  Or check out an audio book (or ebook) and download (Overdrive & Hoopla).  I also have discovered that the library has some databases accessible online if you have a library card.  

The public library where i live is 3 floors.  1st floor is children/youth, movies, music, and audio books along with check out.  2nd floor is reference, fiction & non fiction.  3rd floor (not a full floor) is magazines.  There's a reading room on the 3rd floor that I like.  But there are also tables throughout the library.  

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OnceUponATime

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@RabbitKM @clueliss I am jealous. I hate the fact that I cannot get Overdrive here and all the US libraries that used to sell cards to foreigners have stopped. I wish Overdrive would give an option for foreigners to buy into an 'overdrive collection' that would give a nice choice. Damn Scribd for going getting rid of unlimited audiobooks (and not having kindle downloads).

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clueliss

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Library cards are tracked by the US federal government - found that our from a library when I needed to present ID to verify that my address had not changed once.

discussion of dewey decimals brings back memories from 5th and 6th grade and dewey decimal bingo.  

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MarblesMom

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I can imagine the secluded reading chairs were eliminated (in my former Big City) because people would sleep/nap/camp  in them.  The bathrooms became bathing areas for the homeless.   The stench of urine leading up to the library door area was horrific. 

I realize this is a library post, and not one about helping the homeless, but somehow the homeless traffic changed our local library's layout, hours and frankly, traffic/usage as a result.

Being able to download/borrow was a great boon, though!

 

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Curious

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Is the demise of the dewey decimal system universal?   I haven't been to my library in probably 18 months or a little more because of the Year of Surgery, but last time I was there, they were still using DD system.

The color system you describe sounds awful to me.  If they want to use it in addition fine.

Also, you probably don't want to hear that I can check out unlimited books from our library.  We can also return them to any branch.   We visit one near our community center, but there is a smaller branch just a little bit around the corner from us, so we can return them there if we want to.

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OnceUponATime

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3 minutes ago, Curious said:

Is the demise of the dewey decimal system universal?

I don't know. I don't think so. I hope not! If people don't know how to know if numbers are increasing they need more education, not colors!

4 minutes ago, Curious said:

you probably don't want to hear that I can check out unlimited books from our library. 

I don't even read half the books I get out. I should try and do that more. I really really really am jealous of people with Overdrive. Scribd was an OK replacement back before they fucked up everything. *grumble grumble grumble* oooh but I think we might be getting an amazon service soon (or maybe it already exists). Exciting except it will no doubt have about 5% of the US collection or something equally as fucky.

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Curious

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38 minutes ago, OnceUponATime said:

I really really really am jealous of people with Overdrive.

Our library does have Overdrive.  I've used it a few times and really like it.   We can also browse the library online and pick out the books we want and they will pull them for you and then you just go pick them up.   They have a little room just for the pulled books, so you just go in, find your name (alphabetically), grab your books and go to checkout.

I love this since while I love the library, my husband not so much.  So I can browse to my heart's content online and then he can just run in and grab the books and check out so he's not trapped for hours while I look around the whole library ;)

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clueliss

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Mine has overdrive and hoopla.  Although I get annoyed at Hoopla because it has a nasty habit of forgetting where in an audio book I am.  

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