• Sky
  • Blueberry
  • Slate
  • Blackcurrant
  • Watermelon
  • Strawberry
  • Orange
  • Banana
  • Apple
  • Emerald
  • Chocolate
  • Charcoal
gustava

Jasmine Baucham and College Plus

64 posts in this topic

Y'know, for as awesome/incredible/godly/!!!111!!!!/better then all else College plus is, they sure do spend a whole lotta time defending it.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Her dream is to teach English Lit? As a College Plus "Professor"? She certainly wouldn't step foot in an actual high school or college, would she?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The college girl on the right in that picture is wearing quite a defrauding sweater. :shock:

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I believe part of that post was directed at us.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm sure she'll get admitted to 'grad' school at one of those fundy diploma mills.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So Jasmine's latest posts are about how she has not one but two jobs working as a teacher, one in some co-op (homeschooling maybe?) and another at a private religious school. So she's working outside the home. Go Jasmine!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Oh dear. There's more to a brick and mortar university than she seems to comprehend. Seminars are about having your views challenged, and defending or recanting them. Basically, getting you to "think". And about being able to prove one's conclusion. Grad school is a whole new level of that. It's not about having done the undergrad degree, and getting recommendations. If she thinks that that's all it takes, she's in for a rude awakening.

ETA: Sorry for coming across as if I'm devaluing online courses from actual universities. :oops: My understanding of college minus is that it's quite different from those, and that they require a lot more.

edited for clarity

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

She also mentions how she was a very independent minded teenager who wanted a career and independent life intensely. But of course she realised that she was putting it above Jesus, and He helped her do the right thing and stay at home helping her Mum while she did college minus, taught at homeschool co ops, and waited for Prince Charming.

I feel for her. There's one story on her blog about meeting a gay guy at an ice rink. She obviously had a really fun time with him and got on really well, but she had to justify it as showing that Christians could hate the sin but love the sinner, and say she was doing it to minister to him and show him another way rather than just accepting that they really clicked and would probably be great friends.

I think she's an intelligent, interesting girl stuck in a very small world. She's so young, questioning everything you've ever been taught and breaking away from and perhaps being shunned by your family, some of whom are babies you have raised, in your very early twenties, with no solid connections outside fundie circles would be really really hard.

No wonder Voddie made sure she realised Jesus didn't want her to go away to college, she would have been gone in a flash.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why is it okay for Jasmine to teach, even part time, at a brick and mortar school, but she wasn't allowed to attend one? She hasn't even finished her College Minus degree but she's already teaching? It makes it seem like this school will accept anyone as a teacher.

I wonder how many College Minus students actually apply to graduate school. At least with the posts and blogs by female students, they seem to want a degree to better prepare themselves for homeschooling their future children. If that is the goal, or the student hopes to be self-employed, why would they need a masters degree?

Most of the MFA programs are at least low residency, meaning the student works from home but spends the last two weeks or so on an actual campus. The University of Texas at El Paso has a completely online MFA, though. That is, if she could get accepted.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I was looking into it and noticed that they offer anthropology as a "major" so I sent away for info (I'm currently dragging through my major in it). It has to be nothing more then missionary work. That is my guess!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have a hard time believing there was a College Minus grad who was accepted into a grad program at Oxford...unless she is taking creative liberties with the name. I have a friend who is chair of a grad department at Northwestern University, and he said that generally if he hasn't heard of the undergrad program at a school of one of the applicants, it means their program isn't very good and he shitcans the application then and there. Of course not all chairs operate under the same assumptions he does, but I think Jasmine is stretching the truth.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Something I just thought of: if Jasmine's father has experience as a college professor, why does Jasmine need College Minus to navigate her college path? Couldn't she just ask her father for help?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I believe part of that post was directed at us.

That was my impression, too.

Sorry, Jasmine, not buying it for at least a couple of reasons:

(1) You're too defensive about CollegePlus. No, it is Not the equivalent of any accredited brick & mortar school in the country. If Rice Uinversity is "just as good" then why didn't you apply & go there as a part-time student?

(2) Your father is on public record advocating his bullshit philiosophies for abusing training babies & children, and keeping adult chidlren like you at home & under his thumb till whenever. So, I can't accept that you're doing these things out of a perfect free will.

(3) Plain fact is your parents should only be adding to your family if they -- and only they -- are prepared to raise all those kids they've chosen to have or adopt. If they were the responsible adults they should be, their plans for adding to the family should not be predicated on having you there to pick up the slack.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I have a hard time believing there was a College Minus grad who was accepted into a grad program at Oxford...unless she is taking creative liberties with the name. I have a friend who is chair of a grad department at Northwestern University, and he said that generally if he hasn't heard of the undergrad program at a school of one of the applicants, it means their program isn't very good and he shitcans the application then and there. Of course not all chairs operate under the same assumptions he does, but I think Jasmine is stretching the truth.

I spent a month studying abroad at Oxford. They do NOT mess around with letting people in. You need work experience, extracurriculars, damned good references, and you need to be prepared to work your ass off. Remember, that's the school that takes RHOADES SCHOLARS. I ain't knocking homeschoolers -- from the grades of 8-12 I WAS one, but for severe medical issues -- but I had to work my everloving ass off to earn the right and the money to go there.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm applying for grad schools in the field of education (with a bachelor's in...English lit) and guess what? People of your "acquaintance" who happen to have PhD's are NOT the kind of references they're looking for. They want professors you've worked with or teachers/admins you've worked with while doing field work (honey, you can't actually TEACH until you get those credentials) to gauge your EXPERIENCE and assess your ability to actually TEACH. Go figure. :roll:

I know lots of people with post-grad degrees, including a few actual doctors who could write a character reference for me, but my application would summarily be thrown in the trash. Poor Jasmine either doesn't have a clue or is applying at Christian colleges whose admission policies are different than, say, Oxford's.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I spent a month studying abroad at Oxford. They do NOT mess around with letting people in. You need work experience, extracurriculars, damned good references, and you need to be prepared to work your ass off. Remember, that's the school that takes RHOADES SCHOLARS. I ain't knocking homeschoolers -- from the grades of 8-12 I WAS one, but for severe medical issues -- but I had to work my everloving ass off to earn the right and the money to go there.

Goodness knows how a College Minus 'graduate' would handle an Oxford interview.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm so happy for her, that CollegePlus has taught her how to take a test. However, there was an essay portion when I took the GRE. No amount of test taking skill helped me with that. No, it was having taken several (like 5) Comp and Lit courses that helped with that.

(And GRE ain't everything. I had one of the highest GRE scores in the application pool at MUSC when I applied to nursing school in 2007, and I still got waitlisted)

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Goodness knows how a College Minus 'graduate' would handle an Oxford interview.

And that is why I got waitlisted! I suck at interviews. :?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And that is why I got waitlisted! I suck at interviews. :?

I don't think Oxford interviews graduate students - all the UK universities are trying to increase their international student population (they can charge lots more £££ for overseas than home students, and international students are cash cows) and the logistics of every single one having to fly in for a discussion would be insurmountable. Also, a lot of grad students in the UK are on one-year masters courses, which really don't need that kind of face-to-face investment. Heck, I got into a PhD program in the UK and there was never any talk ot interview (though in that case you'll often have an e-mail conversation with your prospective supervisor).

I can actually believe that one student got onto one course at Oxford. Not for English where they will get eighty bazillion applications for every space, but an esoteric one-year MSc, yeah, even Oxford could make a decision like that. But my suspension of disbelief only goes so far, and i would prefer some specifics.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't think Oxford interviews graduate students - all the UK universities are trying to increase their international student population (they can charge lots more £££ for overseas than home students, and international students are cash cows) and the logistics of every single one having to fly in for a discussion would be insurmountable. Also, a lot of grad students in the UK are on one-year masters courses, which really don't need that kind of face-to-face investment. Heck, I got into a PhD program in the UK and there was never any talk ot interview (though in that case you'll often have an e-mail conversation with your prospective supervisor).

I can actually believe that one student got onto one course at Oxford. Not for English where they will get eighty bazillion applications for every space, but an esoteric one-year MSc, yeah, even Oxford could make a decision like that. But my suspension of disbelief only goes so far, and i would prefer some specifics.

They do. Not only that but you have to have impeccable references from advisory professors, a 3.8GPA, and various other things. An interview *may* be requested.

I am looking at grad schools and even with my 3.5GPA from an actual university I am having issues. It doesn't help that my field is ridiculously small and there are only a handful of universities in the world that have the programme.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't think Oxford interviews graduate students - all the UK universities are trying to increase their international student population (they can charge lots more £££ for overseas than home students, and international students are cash cows) and the logistics of every single one having to fly in for a discussion would be insurmountable. Also, a lot of grad students in the UK are on one-year masters courses, which really don't need that kind of face-to-face investment. Heck, I got into a PhD program in the UK and there was never any talk ot interview (though in that case you'll often have an e-mail conversation with your prospective supervisor).

I can actually believe that one student got onto one course at Oxford. Not for English where they will get eighty bazillion applications for every space, but an esoteric one-year MSc, yeah, even Oxford could make a decision like that. But my suspension of disbelief only goes so far, and i would prefer some specifics.

I'm 99% certain that Oxbridge have offices in the US (New York, maybe?) where they conduct interviews of North American students.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I absolutely hate when people call themselves autodidacts, or act as if that makes them smarter than those who have to, you know, learn from other, more experiences and knowledgeable people. EVERYONE is an autodidact to some degree. Sure, some people are more voracious readers or generally more inquisitive, but life is about learning as an individual - that doesn't make you special or qualified for anything. But there is a reason that society confers degrees for specific fields of study and numbers of credit hours... There is something different about obtaining an actual degree. This mentality that all these CollegeMinus students/homeschooling parents are smarter than those liberal professors and can teach themselves the same things is what scares me about homeschooling... it is just the epitome of hubris and narcissism. Ugh!

/rant

p.s. it does not appear that Jasmine actually thinks C- is better than a real University. If anything, it seems like she would JUMP at the chance to have classroom learning and interaction, but the "invaluable time" (aka forced labor) with her younger siblings and fundie-instilled fear of the evil "debt" prevent her from being able to, which is sad. While I am sure it is nice that she gets to spend time with them and potty-training is quite the accomplishment, there is a REASON most 20-somethings aren't doing that - they need to grow as a person! Free Jasmine!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This thing is such a scam. As a recent college graduate in the process of evaluating/being nostalgic about my college experience, the whole philosophy behind College Minus makes me sad, because it totally ignores the purpose of college. But, of course, the worst thing about it, is that it charges money to teach people how to get themselves a sub-par worthless education. Can't people figure out how to do that all by themselves? Why are they paying for it?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If she thinks Rice U. would accept someone with a "College Minus" degree into one of their graduate programs, she has either been smoking something or is competely deranged. I seriously doubt it. If she wants to go to graduate school, then she should go instead of just talking about how she *could* go if she really wanted to.

She will end up teaching at a homeschool co-op and that's it. That may be enough for her. It is for some people and there's nothing wrong with that.

And yeah, I saw the remarks aimed at us. I think we are spot-on in our accuracy.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now



  • Blog Entries

  • Popular Tags

  • Recent Status Updates

    • iweartanktops

      iweartanktops

      Are there a number of members here, with interest in the JonBenét murder?
      · 1 reply
    • church_of_dog

      church_of_dog

      A very traumatic day in kittieland.  It was vet day again so I really needed to try to catch Bob for his first shots and dewormer.  I wasn't getting anywhere with all three in the room -- every time I put out food to lure him, the others ate it!  So finally I took advantage of Juniper and Arlo being handle-able (did I mention I've picked up Arlo once or twice now?) and I picked them each up in turn and put them in one shared carrier, and then put that carrier out of the room while I set about catching ol' Bob (I considered it a positive that Juniper and Arlo were getting a glimpse/sniff of the rest of the house while they were out there, even if they weren't in the best mood for it).
      It took me forever but I finally caught Bob.  It required me moving the futon sofa into the middle of the room so he couldn't hide behind it.  He was pretty panicked and scrambling around the room but eventually I outsmarted him (or maybe he just decided to let me think that).  I released Juniper and Arlo back into the room after Bob was safely in the carrier and we headed out to the car.
      When we got to the vet's, the vet gingerly pulled him out of the carrier with a towel, and then -- Bob escaped the vet's grip!  A comedy of errors ensued with Bob leading a chase all around the various rooms of the vet's office (thankfully not including the waiting room).  Garbage cans were upturned, and the vet himself nearly tripped over the fan cord as he tried to follow this kitten around the room.  Eventually the vet and the assistant and Bob were in a back room with the door closed to keep him in.  I heard them laughing a few times and then finally the door opened and the vet came out with Bob and a towel and a solid grip.  They promptly gave him his shots and dewormer, confirmed that he's a boy, and then thankfully put him back in the carrier.  I apologized for the mess and we left and returned home.  Oh, vet can't say if Bob is Maine coon -- he doesn't seem to have that extra ruff of neck fur to me, and he's so small (especially since he is theoretically 2 weeks older than the other two), but I would still love it if he turned out to be MC.  Of course I'll love him even if he doesn't as well.
      Back home, I knew that blocking the hiding spaces under the futon was key to getting them out where they would have to interact with me; otherwise this process of taming was going to take forever.  So while Bob rested in the carrier in the house, I boarded up the sides and back of the futon frame, and then had another comedy of errors as I tried to get both Juniper and Arlo out from under the futon at the same time so I could slide it against the wall without trapping either of them.  It took some trickery but I finally did it.  Then Bob could come back into the room.
      So, as if the trauma of the carrier/vet wasn't enough, now they are all back in their familiar room but their safe corner hiding spots have disappeared.  They have a few nook spaces where they can hang out, but nowhere that I can't reach.  They are not thrilled with this.  At all.
      But their reward for the day was some yummy cream, which led to some detailed grooming afterwards:

      Afterwards, Juniper was quick to return to her newly-found snuggler status:

      While Bob sulked.  He was soon comforted, however, by his friend Arlo:

      I'm really pleased that Arlo has allowed me to pick him up once or twice.  He's not yet approaching me, and all three of them still spook when I am moving around, but progress is happening pretty fast, and in another week or so I might feel ok about releasing them into the house (with some kittyproofing happening first, and only when I'm confident other people won't carelessly open the doors and give escape opportunities).  Maybe just a few hours at a time at first, with overnights and/or feeding still happening in the back room.  We'll see.  But -- progress!
      · 3 replies
    • purple_summer

      purple_summer

      Somehow toddlers & tiaras is worse than it was before...
      · 0 replies
    • EyeQueue

      EyeQueue

      Trying to catch up on the forums after an extended absence sucks.
      · 5 replies
    • bingbangboom

      bingbangboom

      Looking forward to seeing the dentist tomorrow. Extra looking forward to being able to eat soon! (Life is pretty much about food and bad reality tv with me...)
      · 0 replies
    • feministxtian

      feministxtian

      Just waiting for more Thor pictures and videos @Imrlgoddess
      · 1 reply
    • Mela99

      Mela99

      What kind of birthday cake do I want? 
      Me birthday is Monday. I'm torn. I kind of want one of these 'dream cakes' from a local bakery. Cake, cheesecake, and mousse. They can do any flavor combo imaginable... 
      I love coconut but I'm the only one... 
      Mint chip? Peanut butter Oreo? GAH. TOO MANY CHOICES. 
      · 4 replies
    • anniebgood

      anniebgood

      I finished the DOL mandated Office Management Systems classed graduated, yeah me. That was Thursday. The next Tuesday I'm at the career counselors office and she says you have to have 20 jobs by the end of the week. I mean, UEI doesn't ask for that, more like 6 for 2 weeks. But OH NO. The DOL is making me job hunt. I think the people on UEI are not damaged or have chronic injury related problems yet they don't have to do this.
      Plus the DOL has not approved my change of doctors. I wrote to the District Admin for SFO and I said I've jumped through every hoop you've put before me and now you won't let me see the doctor that I need to see? I've written my CE 4 times with no response. Not fair. They probably know he'll say no you can't work and it's causing damage to your cervical vertebrae and your shoulder. I have numbness that goes down my neck, across my shoulders and down to my elbows. C567. We shall see what happens. 
      First thing I do in the morning is job hunt and get my 4 or 5 out of the way. Then I can concentrate on other things. 
      Peace. From annie who's not so good. 
      · 1 reply
    • bingbangboom

      bingbangboom

      Seriously, I think this toothache is making me look forward to having dentures one day. 
      · 2 replies
    • Anny Nym

      Anny Nym

      Donuts.
      · 3 replies