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Ken is bordering on obsessive. He's very intent on setting us little women straight. If he just keeps trying different angles we'll all eventually agree with him and submit to his god given superiority. Why can't we see that he's right? It's beyond the line of discussion now and has officially moved into creepy territory. 

Edited to add: Thanks for the shout out on the thread title @Jellybean. I feel like I reached an FJ milestone!

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Idk A friend of mine certainly seems to do a lot of the physical labor at her retail job (she's an assistant manager) while her asshole of a manager just sits on his butt or takes 30 min smoke breaks. Also he refuses to learn any of the procedures from her even though he's new, but still wants her to come in and help him do his job when its convenient for him. And he stole some of her sales. Yep men are just made for physical labor and are so much more logical and capable.

*Squints* at Justin's post. Maybe you should go back to school? Just a suggestion. I can't really make fun of others grammar and I know everyone has their own struggles. Heck, I struggle with grammar hardcore and it makes me self-conscious. However, I did some creeping on some of the profiles for guys that have commented on her page and I can say that none of them look like real winners. I'm seeing some random "I'm trying to be famous by doing videos sitting in my truck", typical conspiracy theory, Trump loving, feminist hating, gun obsessed (one was advocating for unlicensed conceal and carry wtf?), and most have reposted numerous Lori posts. Yikes 

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Hmmm, let's see.

1. Women weren't permitted in combat but I assure you plenty of them went to Iraq and Afghanistan.  I've done a deployment to each of them.  Also, the military is at best 18% female currently.  Ten bucks he invokes the draft specter before things are done.

2. Ken, since you didn't send your sons either (despite their awesome preparation for the military by playing sports), STFU.

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I can't roll my eyes hard enough at Ken's deliberate obtuseness. Lori cries persecution constantly. It's one of the top reasons she posts what she does--she loves using that persecution card.

Ken, everything Rachelle has posted is the unvarnished, plain truth. She owes Lori no apology. And please, tell Lori that crying persecution because someone simply disagrees with her on teh internetz is a huge insult to Christians in this world who are in danger of losing their very lives due to REAL persecution. She needs to get a damned grip.

 

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I think I've finally figured out the root of my frustration/emotional involvement with these chucklefucks. I have always assumed all humans are capable of learning. That they can be presented with information, think about it, and come to logical conclusions about that factual information. Neither Lori nor Ken are capable of this. They simply can't do it. So I could put together screen shots of all the ways they've lied, told half truths, and have been complete hypocrites (all factual information with documented evidence) and it wouldn't matter. They would see it, say *I* was the one who is wrong, and keep tra-la-la-ing doing what the fuck it is they're doing. They do not have the capacity to learn or think. Logic, facts, evidence - none of it matters. 

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@jerkit Willful ignorance is a powerful thing.  They are ate up with it.  

She days she doesn't teach the exceptions but doesn't realize she was an exception.  She's one of few women who was in such a poor physical condition that she needed that nanny or housekeeper.  She & her husbad can't fathom the idea that able bodied women just want a viable choice in life.  

I really believe they both get off on the rhetoric, because they're able to twist it so she's the martyr. 

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Dear God in Heaven.

Today Lori and the leghumper fangirls are waxing rhapsodic about how little  homeschooling education they gave/give their sons .  Lori says all she did was  a few hours of reading, make them memorize some Scripture and an hour of Saxon (?) math per day. 

A fangirl asks Lori about worksheets and she has to admit "no, my children didn't do "worksheets, parts of speech or writings"

One fangirls says "... best thing I did was to stay out of their learning experience as much as possible" She says she "... gave them encyclopedias and dvd's. They watched documentaries a lot, as well as wholesome tv shows." She also recommends "... focusing on mastering bible truths and the basics and then get out of the way!." She also provides this oh so "wise" advice "Focus on bible and basics and guarding them from worldly influences."

I am weeping, yes weeping at all the incredible things these children missed in their un-education.  There are so many, many things/ideas/concepts/facts they could have been introduced to, but no just hand your kid an encyclopedia, a dvd, and make sure they only watch wholesome TV shows.  That'll do it.  They will be totally prepared (not) for any future profession/job.

Homeschooling doesn't have to be like this.  But it does have to be schooling, not ' here kid read the Bible and do some math while I go nap'.

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I'm going to repost something I wrote on the previous thread.  Obviously since Kenny is still posting his insulting comments, condescending diatribes, nasty barbs, and out right lies on Transformed Wife 2.0 he didn't read it the first time.

Kenny I know you don't listen to women about anything (unless it's Lori telling you to go beat up on those jezebel nasty bishes who dared to disagree with her)  but really you might want to consider this:

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"Oh and one teeny weensy tiny bit of advice Kenny -- I'd rethink posting nasty insulting screeds on your wife's blog and elsewhere.  You and what you post are easily google-able.  I'm sure you don't want your present and future clients to see what a raging insulting asshat you can be.  Probably not good for business.

Just a thought. Mmmkaybye"

 

 

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23 minutes ago, EowynW said:

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What? Only 1% of women have been held back by lack of education and opportunity? Doesn't Ken know that until the last few decades women couldn't even get into many colleges? 

This guy has a real inferiority complex. My own husband doesn't go around measuring how little women have accomplished in order to feel good. And he pushes our daughters to be strong and accomplished.

1 hour ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

Dear God in Heaven.

Today Lori and the leghumper fangirls are waxing rhapsodic about how little  homeschooling education they gave/give their sons .  Lori says all she did was  a few hours of reading, make them memorize some Scripture and an hour of Saxon (?) math per day. 

A fangirl asks Lori about worksheets and she has to admit "no, my children didn't do "worksheets, parts of speech or writings"

One fangirls says "... best thing I did was to stay out of their learning experience as much as possible" She says she "... gave them encyclopedias and dvd's. They watched documentaries a lot, as well as wholesome tv shows." She also recommends "... focusing on mastering bible truths and the basics and then get out of the way!." She also provides this oh so "wise" advice "Focus on bible and basics and guarding them from worldly influences."

I am weeping, yes weeping at all the incredible things these children missed in their un-education.  There are so many, many things/ideas/concepts/facts they could have been introduced to, but no just hand your kid an encyclopedia, a dvd, and make sure they only watch wholesome TV shows.  That'll do it.  They will be totally prepared (not) for any future profession/job.

Homeschooling doesn't have to be like this.  But it does have to be schooling, not ' here kid read the Bible and do some math while I go nap'.

Wow, so it sounds like Lori:

1. bought books on the Sonlight reading list. Forced her kids with the threat of the strap to read them.

2. Bought Saxon math textbooks. Followed the above step to get her kids to do a few pages every day.

And there! So much better than the public school.

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On 4/4/2018 at 7:49 PM, AlwaysDiscerning said:

she has no issue with women working in the home in the hours they have to devote to Beauty Counter or other thing

Wait, is Beauty Counter the newest work-from-home MLM? I thought it was CBD oil.

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And this homeschooling is why some kids come into college never having written a paper let alone a major research paper. I was listening to a dad recently that had started homeschooling his kids and it sounded amazing because it encouraged research and curiosity. He wasn't just throwing a book at them, he was an active part of the process. 

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7 minutes ago, refugee said:

Wait, is Beauty Counter the newest work-from-home MLM? I thought it was CBD oil.

It's an MLM that Emily is a pawn in

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On 4/5/2018 at 7:34 AM, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

I'm throwing this out to all the FJ-ers who work outside the home.

Lori and the leghumper fangirls go on and on and on and on about how exhausted women who work are when they get home.  How working makes them much too tired to cook, clean, do child care, have sexxy times -- too tired to do anything at all at home except fight with their "protectors".

Here's my question -- and this may just be my experience.  Is this true for you all, does outside work exhaust you?  Because it doesn't exhaust me.

Yes there are tough days when I'm "tired" but I can usually get over it by blasting the radio and singing along on the drive home. (We are all rock stars behind the wheel). But there are far more good days when I fell buoyed by something that happened or that my team achieved.

Caveats are that I work in an office (IT program manager) so it's not physical labor, Mr. Dress and I are childless, and he helps around the house.  When we get home we share a pot of tea, discuss our days or whatever. Then while I cook dinner he sets the table, helps with veg prep if I need it, takes out trash and peelings, etc. He also cleans the kitchen after dinner while I do some other chore that needs to be done.  All that takes maybe 45 min and then the rest of the evening is ours.

I just don't see that we women are such frail flowers that a day at work will make us prostrate on the sofa when they get home. 

I will say if one had a fundie hubby who expected to be waited on and did nothing at home a woman would get tired doing essentially 2 jobs.  But I question whether it's the outside job alone that exhausts her.

I talked about this earlier somewhere, but yes, outside work exhausted me from the time my oldest was little. It didn’t always.

It struck me just this morning...I actually think I can date it back to a specific kidney infection, when our eldest was a toddler, or it might have had something to do with the Chernobyl cloud that passed over where we were living at the time (hundreds of miles from Chernobyl—almost the other side of Europe, so it shouldn’t be a factor, right?)  but of course I could be wrong. I mean, my kidneys have never stopped working, but looking back, I can see a distinct change in my energy levels. A year or two before eldest was born, I worked 10-hour days and went to school at night, and I don’t remember feeling exhausted. After eldest turned 5 or 6, suddenly a six-hour day at a part-time job meant barely coping when I got home.

Housework didn’t change. I basically did most of it (from the time we were newlyweds), except for lawn mowing. Yeah, one of those marriages. We slipped right into fundiedom without a problem. Actually, it was refreshing to be told I could stay home with the kids and not have to add working outside the home to my limited physical resources.

I could be adding 2+2 and coming up with 5.

Anyhow, one of my kids introduced me to the concept of “spoons” and it makes so much sense to me now. I’m much kinder to myself, now that I understand better how energy works for me, and I don’t feel so condemned as I did when I knew women who had the energy to exercise and wear makeup and nice clothes and keep their homes like magazine covers and homeschool their kids and work in their husband’s business and...

It makes me tired just to think about it. At least now I understand that their mitochondria work way better than mine. Or something like that.

So, yeah. Short answer to your question. Working exhausted me when I had little kids. But at least I had enough common sense or whatever to realize that others didn’t have the same problem.

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is Beauty Counter like Mary Kay, which no matter how much they deny it is an MLM. 

I know some really smart women (who should know better) that have been sucked into an MLM.  Every single one of them lost money.  They all fell for the 'make tons of money by working a few hours a week from home on your own schedule' lie. Nope, nope, nope. They tried and tried, worked lots of hours but ultimately gave up.

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His obsession with envisioning himself as some super-macho alpha male makes me wonder if he secretly reads romance novels, when he isn't dueling on the internet.

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IMO Ken comes across as effeminate more than masculine.  There is nothing about him that resonates "macho male" except his desire to appear that way.

And, Ken, the 80's called and they want their porn 'stache back.

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@refugee- I am certainly no doctor but you very well may be on to something there. A pediatrician I recently talked with said that chronic fatigue is believed to be caused by a virus of some sort that triggers an autoimmune response. I have a friend who has lupus and she shared the spoons explanation on her FB page a while ago- I love it.   

@Red Hair, Black Dress I have an acquaintance that sells Mary Kay. For a short while she was trying hard to get me to sign on. She spends many evenings per week (and quite a few Saturdays) doing MK related work. She claims she’s designing her life and has flexibility but I don’t see it. Not to mention, my kids are in school during the day and my husband works during the day. I don’t want to work regularly when they are home. Not to mention, my kids are in activities in evenings and on weekends. And I don’t want to spend my down time traveling to MK conventions and such. (No offense to those that like that sort of thing- I  celebrate the callings of all women)  

Can someone help me understand where all of these extra commands are? Lori and the leghumpers all harp on not following commandments but all I know of are the 10 plus the admonishment to love one another. 

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@refugee I had a severe allergic reaction to an antibiotic in 2003. Anaphylaxis treated in the ER followed by secondary anaphylaxis the next day. Hives and swelling lasted for about nine days. My energy level never returned to normal and it has been nearly 15 years. 

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25 minutes ago, SuperNova said:

@refugee what is the spoons concept?

https://g.co/kgs/USg24H

In terms of energy, everyone wakes up with a certain number of spoons. It takes spoons to do anything. Getting out of bed might be one spoon. Getting dressed might take two. Maybe washing dishes is five (and fixing food is ten, so if you’re low on energy you don’t eat, or grab something quick but not necessarily helpful). Work may be ten or twenty or fifty spoons. Laundry could be twenty.

So say a person with average energy wakes up with a hundred spoons. They may go through the day, spending their spoons, and still have something left at the end.

Someone with energy issues might wake up with ten spoons. They have to make choices and prioritize. The hell of it is that making decisions costs spoons, too.

And some people wake up feeling like their spoons are in the negative numbers.

And one rule of the game: when the spoons are gone, you’re done. And the only way to get spoons back is rest. (Or maybe some health-building? Like vitamins and eating right and maybe exercise, assuming you have enough energy in the first place to do those things?)

p.s. your number of spoons can be affected by your mental health and your emotions as well as physical issues. So yeah, depression or anxiety or OCD or insomnia or the flu or stress at work or having 3 kids under 5, etc., are all factors in how many spoons you wake up with.

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5 hours ago, jerkit said:

I think I've finally figured out the root of my frustration/emotional involvement with these chucklefucks. I have always assumed all humans are capable of learning. That they can be presented with information, think about it, and come to logical conclusions about that factual information. Neither Lori nor Ken are capable of this. They simply can't do it. So I could put together screen shots of all the ways they've lied, told half truths, and have been complete hypocrites (all factual information with documented evidence) and it wouldn't matter. They would see it, say *I* was the one who is wrong, and keep tra-la-la-ing doing what the fuck it is they're doing. They do not have the capacity to learn or think. Logic, facts, evidence - none of it matters. 

I was just at Hobby Lobby (Lori's favorite store btw) and found the perfect sign. It said "I would agree with you but then we would both be wrong". 

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31 minutes ago, refugee said:

https://g.co/kgs/USg24H

p.s. your number of spoons can be affected by your mental health and your emotions as well as physical issues. So yeah, depression or anxiety or OCD or insomnia or the flu or stress at work or having 3 kids under 5, etc., are all factors in how many spoons you wake up with.

I think for me, my number of spoons can greatly fluctuate.  Some days, I have nearly a normal person spoons; and some days, no matter how I take care of myself, I have only a few.  But, because of this, I believed the responsible choice for me was to never have children, because I never felt like I had enough spoons left over to take care of my own children the way I would have wanted to if I had them.

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