Dillards 53: Making Assumptions and Indoctrinating the Children

[JillRodsEyeliner]

1 hour ago, MarblesMom said:

This will never happen if there are scary shower rods in Alaska.

Who is he Homer Simpson?

[Bad Wolf]

I can see I failed as a mother. I read Dr. Seuss and Little Bear and the Clumsy Cowboy to my kids. *hangs head in shame* In my defense, no one ever gave me the Tuttle Twins. (I would have burned them.)

[JillRodsEyeliner]

8 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

I can see I failed as a mother. I read Dr. Seuss and Little Bear and the Clumsy Cowboy to my kids. *hangs head in shame* In my defense, no one ever gave me the Tuttle Twins. (I would have burned them.)

Is this some type of brainwashing book?

[SapphireSlytherin]

Just FYI- the Tuttle Twins author is commenting on Jill’s insta. 

[LiLSeaWitch]

Jill was raised to say under the correct umbrella. Now that her current umbrella is not stopping the storm, I think she is lost. Maybe JB&M have distanced themselves so she has latched onto Cathy to be her mom figure. I think she want to think her husband is the best, maybe even trying to talk herself into it when she makes post about her wonderful husband. But, come on out of all the sister’s husbands she has got to see what a wreck hers is. At least Jeremy and Austin have provided decent housing, even if Joy did have to live in an RV for awhile (hey she seemed to enjoy it). Jinger seems able to go shopping, her fashion has much improved since her marriage. Yeah, Jill is wearing pants and got a nose piercing but she still looks like she buys frumpy 2nd or 3rd hand clothing that does not fit her properly. I also think Derick is having a melt down, seriously someone needs to misplace his social media until he gets help. 

I know quite a few “fundie” type people and while they may have certain views on controversial issues, they NEVER hurt people’s feelings or act like Derick, so not all fundamental Christians are like the Bill Gothardites. In fact the Gothardites are more a religious cult because Gothard used verses out of context and supported verses with verses that had nothing to do with each other. 

I do feel sorry for Jill, her dad picked her husband, she fell head over hills because he was the first to pay attention to her. I think Derick used her thinking he would get a lot of money, maybe he did have missions on his mind and thought TLC would fund his life.  When that didn’t happen he became bitter and started lashing out at everyone that does not fit into what he thinks they should be.  Now I think Jill is just posting anything to try to defuse the situation with no clue she is adding fuel. 

On another note Dr. Suess was the books my babies loved, especially Green Eggs and Ham. When my daughter got about 5 or 6 we would read the Junie B Jones books by Barbara Parks. Junie B is hilarious.  Ok I’m going to the prayer closet for reading my kids the wrong books. 

[Carm_88]

I think that Jill has a hard time at home with Derick. If Derick signed over his money to JB then he is a world class dumbass. Sorry for Derick? Nahhhh! 

[artdecades]

8 minutes ago, SapphireSlytherin said:

Just FYI- the Tuttle Twins author is commenting on Jill’s insta. 

Looking through it now. I am entirely convinced this is a #sponcon situation and either they are lying about Cathy buying them for the kids or Cathy was paid to give it to them or both.  The brand even has an affiliate program so they are probably making money from books sold too.

[Fjrocks]

     Connor Boyack is a libertarian with some ideas that are quite unusual, some good,  some downright odd and some illicit the WTF response. I would think his ideas do not remotely align with the DIllards.

   One off the top of my head, being he refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance because he has strong issues with the historical basis of the pledge and blind patriotism. 

   The original cause that inspired Connor into politics though is a case I was equally upset about.  In 2012,  a drug task force  stormed a Utah house because they believed the owner Matthew Stewart was growing pot. A pissed off ex, just wanting revenge called the cops and tipped them off he had a few plants in his basement.  Without interviewing  the suspect, they got a "knock and announce" warrant and six undercover officers went charging in his home.  It was a complete and utter bloodbath.  One officer dead, five others and the suspect all with various gunshot wounds, some extremely serious and mountains of medical bills.   The suspect Matthew was a veteran suffering from PTSD,  he worked the graveyard shift at Wal-Mart and had 16 marijuana plants he admitted  he used for anxiety. He never sold it and no other crimes were alleged.   Matt claimed he was asleep when the cops broke down his door, he heard shattering glass, shouting and in terror and in the dark, having no idea why six men were rushing in,  grabbed his gun.  

      I think many in the state of UT had a reaction of...why in the hell did SIX officers go CHARGING in there over pot?!?!?   Connor is a big lobbyist of limiting overreaching police searches and has spent significant time supporting the  legalization of medical marijuana so Matthew's story isn't repeated. Last I heard Connor was gathering signatures to get it on the ballot this year.

   The tragedy of the story didn't end there.   Matthew supposedly hung himself in his jail cell while awaiting trial.  Many were shocked as they felt he had a very compelling defense and support from the public.  

   So much blood over 16 pot plants. 

   I could cover the numerous things I DON'T agree with Connor on and his WTFerky  but that has already been covered fairly well. Please don't take my lack of rehashing that as a defense of Connor's ideas. I just wanted to shed light on another side to the author to say he is so far from the Dillard's beliefs I am SUPER confused why they support him.

  

[LacyMay]

Apologies. 

But it took like 5 days, And a lot of skimming past drift. 

But I'm finally caught up. Maybe next time Dereck can have his meltdown not when I'm out of town and starting a new job. 

Now to go deal with everyone else's threads. 

[JordynDarby5]

Those books are terrible.  

[nastyhobbitses]

13 hours ago, Georgiana said:

But you still have to remember to write a check to the food place, and if you don't it's really awkward if they have to come after you, right?  Lame.  What if they just KNEW everyone in the community wanted to donate, and so they just automatically took out a certain portion of your income or purchases to use to help stock the food place?  That's SO EASY. 

And that's how taxes and food banks work, Fred, you absolute moron.  Way to make things harder on yourself to prove a point.  

This is something that I wish people who are anti-universal healthcare but still set up GoFundMes when their medical bills pile up would understand. What if there was just a huge GoFundMe that automatically paid for your surgery/meds? What if you didn't have to beg your friends to donate and it just happened? And EVERYONE IN AMERICA participated? 

My mom gave some money to a high school friend who was virulently anti-Obama's socialist plan to kill the elderly and control healthcare and make everyone get abortions and make the poor depend on handouts not like me, big self-sufficient red-blooded Amurrican (/s, obviously), and then needed a whooole lotta handouts when he got esophageal cancer. He went to his grave unaware of the irony of being anti-universal healthcare while asking everyone he knew to contribute to his healthcare. 

[Jinder Roles]

@Crazy Enough to Join I agree and think you misinterpreted my post. I don't think not being fundie means having to have a liberal social viewpoint. 

I think Jill is still fundie because the definition of fundie is evolving. She has not nothing majorly contrary to fundie-ness. I think over the years, fundies have slowly adapted their clothing to fit more into 'mainstream'. So her and Singer wearing jeans isn't as rebellious as it would have been in their prairie dress days.  Jill is fundie-medium for me right now. 

Not being fundie to me means 

1. Chemical birth control 

2. Getting rid of the view of helpmeets and staunch complementarianism and the overt patriarchal/stiff gender roles 

3. Women being allowed to work outside the homes/ make major financial contributions to the household/have financial independence

4. Unmarried adult children living on their own (especially the girls) 

5. Consumption of alcohol (for the Duggars) 

6. Going to a brick and mortar school that doesn't have an overtly biased conservative Christian curriculum. Hell, I'll just take accredited brick and mortar school for now. 

7. The ability to date/court without chaperones and truly set their own courtship rules. 

[L1o2u3]

@Jinder Roles So I won't pass your "not-fundie" test because I reject chemical birth control (at least for me)  Even though I am unmarried living with my boyfriend, getting a secular education, drinking alcohol etc. 

It might work the other way around ("you're fundie if..."), but not sure if you can simply turn it around like that  

[Toothfairy]

Lawd, Derrick went off the deep end

[Iamtheway]

9 minutes ago, L1o2u3 said:

@Jinder Roles So I won't pass your "not-fundie" test because I reject chemical birth control (at least for me)  Even though I am unmarried living with my boyfriend, getting a secular education, drinking alcohol etc. 

It might work the other way around ("you're fundy if..."), but not sure if you can simply turn it around like that  

Same here. I’d say I’m as heathen as they come but no chemical birth control or any alcohol for me. So I guess I’m a bit fundie then. 

[SweetJuly]

2 hours ago, nastyhobbitses said:

This is something that I wish people who are anti-universal healthcare but still set up GoFundMes when their medical bills pile up would understand. What if there was just a huge GoFundMe that automatically paid for your surgery/meds? What if you didn't have to beg your friends to donate and it just happened? And EVERYONE IN AMERICA participated? 

Yeah, but then your money might be going to the wrong people who make the wrong choices and are undeserving of your support. When you can select to whose GoFundMe you are contributing, you can make sure it only goes to causes/people you agree with and who you have determined to be deserving of your support...

Even though my family lived in the US when I was a young child, I am really only used to countries with universal healthcare and a rather strong welfare state. We do bitch about the amount of taxes and contributions we have to pay, and of course the systems are often inefficient or would need a good overhaul, but - honestly, I am so incredibly grateful that we don't have to go to the lengths of begging for money and trying to win some sort of popularity contest when our lives are at stake.

My mother had breast cancer, with multiple recidivisms requiring chemotherapy, radiation, and surgery. She still receives regular treatments and medications, especially to deal with her disability nowadays. In the US, my parents would have at best lost their home, at worst my mother would no longer be with us today.

My sister is currently undergoing treatment for leukaemia. She lost her job in the process, and her husband is struggling taking care of their one-year old daughter while my sister is in the hospital. Right now, my sister is battling numerous life-threatening complications. It is an incredibly difficult situation for all of us. But I cannot imagine what it would be like if in that very moment my family had to worry about how we were going to pay for my sister's treatment, and ensure that her husband and baby daughter had food and a place to stay.

[Jinder Roles]

Sorry guys, my wording is clumsy. I meant the ability to choose personally to do the things I listed. And not that they are inherently evil, unbiblical, unreasonable or inaccessible. It’s late lmao. 

I personally don’t drink, use chemical birth control nor have I ever dated someone so...

[Sky with diamonds]

2 hours ago, Toothfairy said:

Lawd, Derrick went off the deep end

And he will go off the deep end again. Instead of showing maturity, compassion or even common sense. Dullard ain't done yet, y'all.

[HarleyQuinn]

If that was a sponsored post than Jill didn't tag it properly and that's something Instagram will get after her for. I'm more inclined to believe a leg humper just mentioned it to the Tuttle author who's not used to having someone with a bunch of followers promote their material. Maybe we'll see a sponsorship in the future. We know they need the money now.

Are the Elephant and Piggie books too liberal? Kids love those.  

[Drala]

Not being fundie means I can know about, read and cherish Elizabeth Cady Stanton's 1892 speech before Congress called "Solitude of Self."

https://www.nps.gov/wori/learn/historyculture/solitude-of-self.htm

      

[VelociRapture]

Being fundamentalist basically just means you’re ridiculously rigid about extreme beliefs. So, to use hormonal birth control as an example, It would be thinking that no one should be allowed hormonal birth control because you (general you) think it kills babies. Or, on the flip side, thinking everyone should be sterilized because humans are killing the earth.* You can be personally opposed to something without being fundamentalist - it all boils down to whether you feel you have the right to impose your extreme beliefs onto other people.

*I personally haven’t really heard or seen anyone promoting this idea, but I won’t be surprised if there are people like this.   

9 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

I can see I failed as a mother. I read Dr. Seuss and Little Bear and the Clumsy Cowboy to my kids. *hangs head in shame* In my defense, no one ever gave me the Tuttle Twins. (I would have burned them.)

I’m so, like, blessed the Dills set me straight while my kid is still young. I, like, totally don’t know what I’d do without their Godly example to lead me. Goodbye “Everything is Mama” and “Dinosaur Dance!” Hello creepy af twins who are pastier than Casper and sound like they’d fit in great with The Hitler Youth!

#bestparentingever #hitleryouthbedtime #jesuslovesthemall

[FJismyheadship]

23 minutes ago, VelociRapture said:

Being fundamentalist basically just means you’re ridiculously rigid about extreme beliefs. So, to use hormonal birth control as an example, It would be thinking that no one should be allowed hormonal birth control because you (general you) think it kills babies. Or, on the flip side, thinking everyone should be sterilized because humans are killing the earth.* You can be personally opposed to something without being fundamentalist - it all boils down to whether you feel you have the right to impose your extreme beliefs onto other people.

*I personally haven’t really heard or seen anyone promoting this idea, but I won’t be surprised if there are people like this.   

I’m so, like, blessed the Dills set me straight while my kid is still young. I, like, totally don’t know what I’d do without their Godly example to lead me. Goodbye “Everything is Mama” and “Dinosaur Dance!” Hello creepy af twins who are pastier than Casper and sound like they’d fit in great with The Hitler Youth!

#bestparentingever #hitleryouthbedtime #jesuslovesthemall

Soooo I totally read that last hashtag as Jesus Loves The Mall.

[HereticHick]

Jill,  Anti-Semitic Hate Groups Are Building A Fortress In Your Husband's Heart.  

Wake up.

[Glasgowghirl]

I am really starting to worry about Jill and the boys Derick is uncontrollable and I hope he doesn't lose it with her or the kids. Derick may feel bitter about him not having the money or easy life he thought he would have. Instead of blaming TLC and insulting people online he should be getting a job and supporting his wife and kids. He claims he is working but he also claimed he working during his school years.

[libgirl2]

10 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

I can see I failed as a mother. I read Dr. Seuss and Little Bear and the Clumsy Cowboy to my kids. *hangs head in shame* In my defense, no one ever gave me the Tuttle Twins. (I would have burned them.)

And we read Thomas the Tank Engine! Oh the shame!