Lori Alexander 29: Gossiping about Gossip

[SweetLaurel]

OMG  - I've been popping in and out on the Naugler thread all day and yet no one pisses me off as much as Lori.   She is just so freaking clueless.  I can't believe women are drinking up her words like thirsty lap dogs - what is wrong with them?....I need a drink.  Something lap dogs wouldn't drink.

And then I'm going back to the shitstead so my blood pressure will come down.  How purposefully cruel and ignorant can a person be?

[usmcmom]

Remember when that lady from the chat room went to church with Lori in Door County?  I don't think Lori was wearing a dress in that IG photo, which was TAKEN AT CHURCH. Didn't Lori say, in the video, that she likes it when women wear dresses to church?  

Also, Lori is taking care of her three grandkids for the week. WHY, may I ask, is there a need for Geandma Lori to take care of these children? Aren't mothers supposed to be home with their children all the time?!? Aren't getaways  and date nights selfish and frivolous for young couples?!? 

I'm so confused. 

[TeddyBonkers]

It's real easy for Lori to say that women don't need to work, when she's sitting in her million dollar house.

It's real easy for Lori to say that we should all eat organic, when she has the budget for it, and lives in the land of the eternal sun.

And she can fuck right off with her 'we lived in a mobile home' story. Bitch, your daddy paid for that. Did you raise any of your kids in a mobile home? I'm going to take a WAG and say nope. Meanwhile, I still remember my mom taking baby brother and me to Grandma and Paw's brick house during tornadoes, because if there is one thing that tornadoes love, it is trailers. (I lived in a trailer growing up, in case it was unclear.)  But I forgot, CA doesn't have tornadoes.

 

[delphinium65]

30 minutes ago, SweetLaurel said:

How purposefully cruel and ignorant can a person be?

 

Don't let her hear you ask that...she may take it as a challenge. 

[lilwriter85]

4 hours ago, Koala said:

 Wha????  Are you serious, right now?  6 bedrooms?  THAT is how she is "moderate in everything"?  For once, I am speechless.  I knew they had a house in a nice area, but I never fathomed it was that big.  Christ. I could fit 3 (THREE) of my houses in Lori's house and still have room left over.   What on earth do two people need with a 6 bedroom house?

Lori May 2017:

 

Not too hard to be content in a 6 bedroom house, is it Lori?  No wonder they can't afford to tithe! 

If any of her fangirls are reading here I hope they find these posts. As I've said it drives me nuts that her many of her fangirls fail to see how much Ken and Lori have compared to them. I'm not begrudging Ken for having an apparently successful business that afforded his family many good things. It comes down to Lori preaching about moderation and living frugally and not actually living like that. If Lori and Ken had more kids I could totally understand a 6 bedroom house.   Koala, you might be onto something regarding them possibly not being able to tithe because they could have debts or need to keep with the cost of maintaining  a large house. 

I've always been curious about how much Ken has made off of his business. When he posted here a couple of years ago he hinted that he money worries in the past regarding his retirment fund. I now wonder if Ken and Lori are living above their means and faking it. Of course, we will never how Ken usually makes per year. Also, another thing that hinted at money worries for Lorkien, is when Lori had conflicts with Ken because he no longer wanted to pay for Cassi's tutition at BIOLA and she transferred to a cheaper state school.

[EowynW]

29 minutes ago, TeddyBonkers said:

It's real easy for Lori to say that women don't need to work, when she's sitting in her million dollar house.

It's real easy for Lori to say that we should all eat organic, when she has the budget for it, and lives in the land of the eternal sun.

And she can fuck right off with her 'we lived in a mobile home' story. Bitch, your daddy paid for that. Did you raise any of your kids in a mobile home? I'm going to take a WAG and say nope. Meanwhile, I still remember my mom taking baby brother and me to Grandma and Paw's brick house during tornadoes, because if there is one thing that tornadoes love, it is trailers. (I lived in a trailer growing up, in case it was unclear.)  But I forgot, CA doesn't have tornadoes.

 

I grew up in an ancient mobile home. In tornado alley. Fun times. 

 

CA gets tornadoes just not as often. 

[Koala]

44 minutes ago, usmcmom said:

Remember when that lady from the chat room went to church with Lori in Door County?  I don't think Lori was wearing a dress in that IG photo, which was TAKEN AT CHURCH. Didn't Lori say, in the video, that she likes it when women wear dresses to church?  

Yes, now that you mention it, she was wearing a flannel type shirt and tight, tight, tight black pants.  BUT, that was totally different, just like her short shorts and low cut tops were different.  Lori's rules apply to other women, not her.

[Hisey]

I was really, really into the Tightwad Gazette in the 80s. Mr. Hisey was not fully employed at the time (though I was) and our income was small. Besides, I loved the idea of a woman with a modest income choosing her destiny by making really smart decisions about money. Although Amy D seemed to be extremely conservative (her father was a member of the John Birch society), she does say that her goal -- to be at home with her kids -- is not everyone's goal. She had a friend who saved money to travel the world.

Here's what Amy doesn't talk about. Her husband was retired Navy. That means she had access to the VA for medical care and probably a Navy commissary. So when she brags about saving up for a down payment on $30G a year, you need to take that into account. That's a huge advantage over us civilians.

Though I loved her newsletter, some of the ideas were wacky. I remember one woman writing in that if you live near a casino, you could buy used packs of cards to give as gifts, for only $1. As in, "Happy Birthday, Mom! Here's your gift! You are going to love it!" Who gives used playing cards as gifts?

Now that I think about it, that writer may have been a poe.

[Koala]

Lori can point out that other women are immodest, but when people point out that she is immodest (short shorts), well...this is her response:

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 I didn’t know and had no clue that some woman would use it against me but this is what they do. 

Lori's fellow church members probably had no clue that a fellow sister in Christ would use what they wear to church against them, but that sure didn't stop Lori.

[Loveday]

@AlwaysDiscerning posted:

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Also if you work from home it is so stupid to put your home address on your business site. That is what PO boxes are for!

I think they want someone to stalk them or something, so they can have a sad, persecuted story about how the feminist and God haters found them (like cabinet man). They certainly don't go out of their way to hide personal details knowing how controversial Lori is. 

 

I'd noticed the address on Ken's business site last week, but hesitated before commenting with the Zillow details, precisely for this reason. But Ken himself made it public information, so he has only himself to blame. It's right there, in plain view, no goggle fu skillz needed. 

Might want to do something about that, Ken.  

[OldFadedStar]

Her house is really nice... three car garage, patio off what I'm assuming is the master bedroom. 

[usmcmom]

My husband once had to fire someone who happened to live in our neighborhood. The man he fired did not have all of his office keys, etc with him so Human Resources told him he could just drop it by our house - where I happened to be alone through the day with two small children. They called me to tell me this arrangement. I called my husband and asked him to put a stop to that plan NOW. I did not want a disgruntled ex-emploeee showing up on my doorstep. USMCDAD called the HR office and ripped them a new one. 

No snark at all - Ken is foolish for putting his address on the internet like that when his wife is often home alone - sometimes caring for her grandkids. He should list email and phone number only and if he needs to meet with someone, make arrangements in such a way that does not include publicizing his address. 

But what do I know - Ken knows all about being the protector and provider and laying down his life...blah, blah, blah.  I'm just a foolish woman. 

[littlemommy]

4 hours ago, Koala said:

 

Umm, no.  Being silent means:

not making or accompanied by any sound

 

Gosh, I don't know...we better go back to ye olde dictionary from 1500 or something for the most Godly definition of silent. It's probably something a lot like "Shutteth thine pie hole."

[lilwriter85]

1 hour ago, Hisey said:

Though I loved her newsletter, some of the ideas were wacky. I remember one woman writing in that if you live near a casino, you could buy used packs of cards to give as gifts, for only $1. As in, "Happy Birthday, Mom! Here's your gift! You are going to love it!" Who gives used playing cards as gifts?

Now that I think about it, that writer may have been a poe.

I find that too cheap and this is coming from someone who has purchased used playing cards from casinos here in New Mexico. There was one hotel/casino around here that used to give away free decks of playing cards late at night to people who were still playing the slots after the tables were closed. Some people might be ok with getting used playing cards from a Vegas casino as gifts. I still wouldn't do it.

[fundamentallyfearless]

THIS IS A NEW LOW EVEN FOR LORI. I CAN'T EVEN.

I don't think she understands slavery... like, at all...

[lilwriter85]

2 minutes ago, fundamentallyfearless said:

THIS IS A NEW LOW EVEN FOR LORI. I CAN'T EVEN.

I don't think she understands slavery... like, at all...

Ugh, what a fucking moron.  As long employers are treating their employees well by legal and safety standards and the work environment isn't hostile- that's not slavery. 

[feministxtian]

2 hours ago, Hisey said:

Here's what Amy doesn't talk about. Her husband was retired Navy. That means she had access to the VA for medical care and probably a Navy commissary. So when she brags about saving up for a down payment on $30G a year, you need to take that into account. That's a huge advantage over us civilians.

The VA does not treat dependents. Retired Navy means they had CHAMPUS. Back in the dark ages, the commissary was the cheapest thing going....but I do better at WinCo. Retired military now have TRI-CARE...I believe there is a cost for it now. As a general rule, retired military do not have access to the actual military medical system...TRI-CARE is for going out on the economy for medical care. 

**how I know...hubs is retired Navy reserve. He has access to the VA (there is an income limit for VA eligibility if you do not have a service connected disability), but I do not have any access to military medical at all. I lost my Medicaid at the end of August because our income is "too high"...less than 24k/yr. 

[SweetLaurel]

must go away.  She makes me too upset - and yet its like a train wreck.

 

[Imrlgoddess]

WRT to the VA health business, the veteran has various rights to care through them but dependents must be attached to veteran with more than 70% disability.  And they have to speak up and fight for it, the VA isn't going to offer, they don't even let it be commonly known.  For 4 year peons like me, the benefit is there but there are copays and my spouse gets squat.  Retirees are a whole other ball of wax, I've never been clear on all those rules, I only know what we were told during enlistment which was:  stay in for 20, retire honorably and get the full benefit which included full VA allowances and base privileges.  Whether that's the thing now?  I have no idea.

@usmcmom my friend recently had a similar incident!  Her husband had to fire one of his people who happened to live in their neighborhood.  She's been concerned about that person showing up at their house.  So far so good, but there are crazy folks in this world.

I keep thinking about the value on Lori and Ken's house....trying to put it into cost of living perspective.  That same house where I am may only be worth 3 or 400K depending.  But still, that's a lot of house for some almost retired empty nesters.  

I'm on break from my night class and had to stick my head in the forum.  I had a talk with my husband this evening about him potentially letting his second job go far sooner than he ever intended.  As I told him, we need him healthy more than we need that little bit of money.  Current life issues make it imperative that I finish and pass this course and the subsequent exam.  If I don't, we will end up Lori's perfect martyr family waiting for 8 lb 6 oz Baby Jesus Laying in a Manger to swipe that AmEx in our favor.  

She really is just a spoiled brat.

[Loveday]

8 minutes ago, Imrlgoddess said:

WRT to the VA health business, the veteran has various rights to care through them but dependents must be attached to veteran with more than 70% disability.  And they have to speak up and fight for it, the VA isn't going to offer, they don't even let it be commonly known.  For 4 year peons like me, the benefit is there but there are copays and my spouse gets squat.  Retirees are a whole other ball of wax, I've never been clear on all those rules, I only know what we were told during enlistment which was:  stay in for 20, retire honorably and get the full benefit which included full VA allowances and base privileges.  Whether that's the thing now?  I have no idea.

Pretty much, as far as I know. Both my husband and my father in law are 20-year-plus honorable retirees and get full VA benefits. MIL has the retiree TRICARE thing. Luckily for me, my husband's current job has fairly decent medical benefits, because I won't be eligible for TRICARE until I'm 65 (I think, it might be 62 but I doubt it).

[sawasdee]

My mother left my father in 1957, with two school age children and me, a preschooler. My cousin provided free child care. She worked two jobs, a full time 40 hour a week, and three evenings a week teaching shorthand and typing.

She got paid on Friday. The shops were shut by the time she got home with her pay packet.

Friday night dinner for the four of us was a tin of tomato soup ( sometimes TWO if the budget allowed), a tin of vegetable soup, mixed together, and a small loaf of bread.

Our rent was more than half her wages, and we shared a bathroom with three other families. You had to pay to have hot water for a bath - which is why we all used the same water - once a week.

Lori has NO FUCKING IDEA of living on a budget - before Ken was successful, her parents were always there to take up the slack. 

I truly find her horrendous. She pontificates behind her keyboard, with no idea of what she is writing, rewrites her history to fit the post of the day, makes no attempt to live as she demands others should - and is a disgrace to any faith - let alone one that preaches (or at least Jesus does) "loving thy neighbour".

She is arrogant, perverse, heretical, judgmental, ignorant and downright evil.

ETA And I forgot hypocritical.

[Denim Jumper]

4 hours ago, Hisey said:

I was really, really into the Tightwad Gazette in the 80s. Mr. Hisey was not fully employed at the time (though I was) and our income was small. Besides, I loved the idea of a woman with a modest income choosing her destiny by making really smart decisions about money. Although Amy D seemed to be extremely conservative (her father was a member of the John Birch society), she does say that her goal -- to be at home with her kids -- is not everyone's goal. She had a friend who saved money to travel the world.

Here's what Amy doesn't talk about. Her husband was retired Navy. That means she had access to the VA for medical care and probably a Navy commissary. So when she brags about saving up for a down payment on $30G a year, you need to take that into account. That's a huge advantage over us civilians.

Though I loved her newsletter, some of the ideas were wacky. I remember one woman writing in that if you live near a casino, you could buy used packs of cards to give as gifts, for only $1. As in, "Happy Birthday, Mom! Here's your gift! You are going to love it!" Who gives used playing cards as gifts?

Now that I think about it, that writer may have been a poe.

That's like an acquaintance of mine who brags about feeding her large family for $50/month by couponing, and will post a picture of a massive grocery haul. What she fails to mention that the $50 total is after the food stamps and WIC vouchers are applied. I'm not knocking food stamps or WIC, just don't pretend you're truly making it on one income, so everyone else should be godly SAHMs, too. 

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

Another perk ex-Navy get is the ability to declare what state they live in for state income tax purposes.  My BIL left the Navy after 12 years (he was Dr and a Captain).  In addition to commissary shopping, and the medical care. He has, since leaving, declared he lives in a state without state income tax.  He does not now, and has not ever lived   in the state he declares is his "residence" for state tax purposes.

This is a perk the Tightwad Lady never disclosed.  And seriously, average salaries in the 1970s and 1980s were much lower than now. So if her hubby made $30K/year he was paid on a par with everyone else.  Plus the Tightwad Lady never mentioned the hubby's Navy pension -- which certainly helped supplement his $30K.  Not to mention subscriptions to the TW Gazette brought in $$

I've always believed the Tightwad Lady was someone who bordered on being a miser, not someone who was frugal by necessity.  At one point I remember reading she advised washing and resuing the styrofoam trays grocery store meat came on, including trays chicken came on.

[feministxtian]

The tax perk has been tightened up...the number of military people living in Nevada, Texas and Florida was like 90% of the military. You now have to declare either the state you entered the service in or the state you live in. My son went thru hell trying to get his LES changed from Virginia to Colorado. 

A 12 year officer, unless he got out on a medical shouldn't get any benefits whatsoever, unless he either stayed a reservist or went VA. 

We have commissary and exchange privileges along with any military discount I can score. Hubby has veteran license plates which, at least here in Vegas, are a license to do whatever you damn well please on the road. Vet plates are rarely pulled over. I can get vet plates on my car too since I'm the spouse of a veteran. 

We have 5 years until we can get military medical again...when hubs turns 60, he'll get his military retirement and tri-care prime (I think). I'll be covered under that too. Until then...I'm screwed. 

[Loveday]

Wasn't Amy's husband still in the Navy when she was writing her newsletters? At least for part of that time? I didn't come across her until she'd put the newsletters into book form in the early 90s, but I seem to remember her saying that he was making $30,000 while still IN the Navy (his pension on retirement wouldn't have been his full salary, whatever that ended up being by the time he retired from active duty). It's been some years since I read through the books, though, so I might be mistaken.

And yeah, some of her ideas were pretty off the wall. I do still press that tiny sliver of leftover soap on to a new bar every single time, though, thanks to Amy. LOL.