John Shrader Part 12: Empty Baptismal, Empty Brains

[DnAismyBaE]

Typically when I'm sick enough to categorize my vomitting as "violent" the last thing I want to do is fart around on the internet and spend time writing dumb posts. But that's just me 

[turquoise]

On 6/21/2017 at 1:33 PM, clearingthingsup said:

But really, I think he put them in storage. And yes, he did take all of them with him to Zambia. 

Do you really think he has 6,000-7,000 books? That many books would be expensive to store or ship.

[apandaaries]

I've missed out on John's shenanigans lately, but am so happy to be able to catch up.  I'd first like to say that if he is trying to actually assert that he has between 6,000 and 7,000 books, he is quite likely lying (isn't that a sin?).  My book hoarder mother had shelves built into her home; she also inherited some fine quality collections from family members who invested in books (family of educators -- it happens.  We're also pretty devoted to the library, as well).  The individual shelves are a little over 3.5 ft and hold about 50 books each.  Even so, I'd estimate her stash around 5,000 books.  I had FAR fewer books when I left the States after graduating college, and they took up a monstrous amount of room in boxes.  Unless he had an enormous library devoted to books alone, I highly doubt that number.  It sounds like utter and absolute bullshit to me, unless he's got several thousand KJV lying around. 

Feel terrible for Esther having to deal with all that sick PLUS the nauseating parasite which is her husband.  Hope she and the family are doing better.  I should be used to John's ways by now, but I do find it repulsive that yet again he complains about his family's illnesses while requesting prayer for only himself.  What a miserable excuse for a man.

For the blocked folks, John is continuing his tradition of extreme highs and lows. The sickness was a good excuse for bed, but now he's back in action, posting like a madman.  Please enjoy!

Spoiler

M. & M. (Meditations & Missions)

"Just the empty clashing and clanging as of a rogue Cymbals player...absent the sweet melody and harmony wrought by the Master Conductor and infused with His very Life and Power, that of the lovely Lord Jesus Christ Himself."

This is my first month on a new Bible reading plan a new friend, Bro. BobLeader, shared with me, and I cannot tell you what a tremendous blessing it has been. Reading through the entire N.T. every month is going to be truly life changing.

In my recent reading, I was reading through I Corinthians 16 and came to some familiar verses, yet was struck by some simple yet profound thoughts (at least to me). Maybe they might encourage and even challenge some of you as well.

Verses 13 and 14 say: "Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong. Let all your things be done with charity."

I love the definitive and imperative statements here.

1. Watch - We must be on the LOOKOUT. The world, the flesh, and the devil conspire together to defeat us daily.

2. Stand Fast - We must be LOCKED. Unmovable from the Faith based only upon the Immutable Unchanging Inerrant Infallible and Perfectly Preserved Words of God.

3. Quit like Men - We must LEAD, literally, act manly. God has called us men to be leaders. Not dictators. Not demanding. Not treating others as doormats, but to lead. The greatest Leader was Christ, who in His flesh was very manly, yet was a Servant leader.

4. Strong - The LORD'S Strength. This is a passive word, not that we strengthen ourselves, but that we are strengthened, or made strong. It's clearly what Paul said in Eph. 6:10, "...be strong in the Lord, and in the power of His might."

(This last point is what prompted the entire M&M.)

5. All things done with charity - LOVE is oft' times easily overlooked in the effort to be on the Lookout, be Locked firmly in Faith, to Lead strengthened by the Lord...yet the Word clearly instructs us that "ALL" these things must be done with Love.

This has been my greatest struggle. The first four have often consumed my focus, while the fifth slipped through my fingers, like sand escaping a sieve.

Please pray that the Lord helps me to fulfill all His Word in these matters...that by His Grace and Power I will allow Him to Live His Life and His Love through me.

Otherwise, my missionary efforts here in Sub-Saharan Africa will be just that. Only that.

My efforts.

Just the empty clashing and clanging as of a rogue Cymbals player...absent the sweet melody and harmony wrought by the Master Conductor and infused with His very Life and Power, that of the lovely Lord Jesus Christ Himself.

And that would be a tragic waste of time, effort, and the sacrificial giving of God's people.

Thanks for your prayers.

Bro. John Shrader 
Zambia

 

His grammar is a garbage fire.  Why did he throw an apostrophe onto "oft"?  His tracts must be magnificent. 

Interesting that he notes that working with love and charity is challenging for him.  Honestly, I don't think he's shown himself capable of love for anyone besides himself.  He works pretty hard to keep his dad's ass well-kissed, but he is indubitably one of the worst fundie husbands ever.  When was the last time he asked for prayers for Esther or the kids? Has there EVER been a moment when he put them first or sacrificed for them?  Does he ever encourage them, rather than criticize their efforts?  I have seen zero evidence that John loves anyone out there other than himself.  

But he outdoes himself here:

Spoiler

Ministry Meditations - Thoughts from Africa

We must not base our evaluation of our ministries, be they foreign or domestic, pastoring, missions, or otherwise, on results. Otherwise, we began to focus on productivity, public relations, personalities, and the power of persuasion...multitudes of things other than what should be, nay, what must be our sole focus. The Person of our lovely Lord Jesus Christ. Paul's cry in Colossians 3:11 of "Christ is All..." must be more than a slogan or a theme on a banner. It must become the living, breathing, vital essence of our very existence as believers, lest wood, hay, and stubble be our eternal earthly legacy.

Bro. John Shrader 
Zambia

 DO NOT FOCUS ON RESULTS, SHEEPLE!  JUST KEEP SENDING MONEY!  

*bolding in quotes is mine.

 

[Gobsmacked]

John does not understand 3 and 5. No matter how much he blethers. My sixth sense is telling me that John boy is hanging on by a thread. All is not well with him. 

(Im not and never have been a doctor etc or met him etc..... , but having followed his miserable little life since the pop-up camper days, my spidey senses are tingling.

Thankyou Amandaaries for the update. It's so frustrating being blocked. If only I hadn't had two glasses of wine that day..........!!

[bertnee]

John is such a giant drama king. And that damn alliteration! Johnny, using four words in a row that start with p doesn't make you smart. And saying "oft" and "nay" doesn't make you a prophet.

[Tangy Bee]

I wonder if she really wants to come home? Will her last 3 kids still be considered American? I also wonder if Jill or Derick would ever consider going to mission in Africa??

[Bethella]

22 minutes ago, Tangy Bee said:

I wonder if she really wants to come home? Will her last 3 kids still be considered American? I also wonder if Jill or Derick would ever consider going to mission in Africa??

Children of foreign parents, who are born in Zambia, acquire dual parental and Zambian citizenship. This dual citizenship is recognized until age 21 when the person must register with Citizenship Board if the person chooses to become a Zambian citizen. Upon confirmation of Zambian citizenship, person has three months to renounce the second citizenship (of parents). Dual citizenship will continue to be recognized until age 22. I think they have to file paperwork with the embassy, but they have American parents and therefore have American citizenship.

It would seem like they have filed the proper paperwork for the two youngest boys. We know they have passports because they visited the US with Esther last fall.

[Curious]

6 hours ago, SoGladIWasCofE said:

The largest section of his library is on which Bible you should use? How many books even exist on that topic?

a couple years ago, I went to the bookstore to pick up a hard copy Bible just to look up stuff to refute Lori's nonsense.  It too me like an hour to pick a bible because there were so many versions and books on which bible you should use and on and on.  I had no idea it was such a hot topic.

[clearingthingsup]

4 hours ago, turquoise said:

Do you really think he has 6,000-7,000 books? That many books would be expensive to store or ship.

I think he probably does. I am fairly certain he was okay with spending plenty of other people's money to ship his personal book collection overseas. Practical stuff for his kids or wife though? Ha, yeah right. 

[formergothardite]

I have no doubt he has a lot of books, but I would be shocked if he had anywhere close to 7,000. That is a massive amount of books. I also don't doubt that he would spend a shit ton of money to have the stuff shipped over to Zambia, but I am pretty sure he would have mentioned his large storage area filled with books, something he hasn't done. And there is no indication from his pictures that he has 7,000 books sitting around his house. There are books, but not thousands. 

[apandaaries]

1 hour ago, formergothardite said:

And there is no indication from his pictures that he has 7,000 books sitting around his house. There are books, but not thousands. 

This is a picture of 103 books. It would take about another SIXTY of these shelves (both) to get to 6,000, and seventy of these shelves to get to 7,000. This shelf includes large, small, and average sized books.

People can own a lot of books and ship them a number of places...but if John had that many books, we'd see more pix of him with them in the background, for gravitas. The space demanded by books is f'ing vast. I don't think John would hesitate to demand that his books be sent off with him, but I also think he has artificially inflated the number of books he owns to sound more impressively intellectual.

[clearingthingsup]

32 minutes ago, amandaaries said:

This is a picture of 103 books. It would take about another SIXTY of these shelves (both) to get to 6,000, and seventy of these shelves to get to 7,000. This shelf includes large, small, and average sized books.

I had no idea books took up that much space! He's probably counting little 10-page leaflets like the kind pastors hand out as little week-long devotionals and the like as "books"

 

"Look at my enormous stack of books"!!!!!!111!11!! LMBO 

[subsaharanafrica]

7 hours ago, Bethella said:

Children of foreign parents, who are born in Zambia, acquire dual parental and Zambian citizenship. This dual citizenship is recognized until age 21 when the person must register with Citizenship Board if the person chooses to become a Zambian citizen. Upon confirmation of Zambian citizenship, person has three months to renounce the second citizenship (of parents). Dual citizenship will continue to be recognized until age 22. 

This isn't how it works as per our Zimbabwean friends with two kids born in Zambia. Their kids are not Zambian by right now BUT if they live in Zambia on a valid visa for a number of years prior to their 21st birthday then they can go register as citizens and don't have to naturalize. But right now, they're not Zambian and have no right to a Zambian passport. 

[subsaharanafrica]

Did he ever say how big his container was? I had to donate a shedload of books with one of our moves because they took up too much space in the 40' shipping container. If he shipped a couple of rooms of furniture and/or all the crap he purchased on his shopping spree with other people's money before he left there is no way that here was also room for 7,000 books. The boxes containing 200 books took up half of our living room. 

[gustava]

Wonder if someone could post this to lyin' , lazy John's FB and he'd fall for it????

http://babylonbee.com/news/apostle-pauls-king-james-bible-auction/

[Gobsmacked]

1 hour ago, gustava said:

Wonder if someone could post this to lyin' , lazy John's FB and he'd fall for it????

http://babylonbee.com/news/apostle-pauls-king-james-bible-auction/

Ha ha!! Love it. He would fall for, he is that daft!!

[Loveday]

1 hour ago, gustava said:

Wonder if someone could post this to lyin' , lazy John's FB and he'd fall for it????

http://babylonbee.com/news/apostle-pauls-king-james-bible-auction/

 

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...with all of Scofield’s study notes still clearly visible at the bottom of the page.

[formergothardite]

13 hours ago, clearingthingsup said:

I had no idea books took up that much space! He's probably counting little 10-page leaflets like the kind pastors hand out as little week-long devotionals and the like as "books"

To give an idea of how many books 6-7,000 is, this tree is made up of 1,600 books. 

I think this is just a case of John lying to impress others. He is rather like Trump in that way. John claims 6,000 books when in reality he has more like 100. 

[Marshmallow World]

7 hours ago, formergothardite said:

I think this is just a case of John lying to impress others. He is rather like Trump in that way. John claims 6,000 books when in reality he has more like 100. 

He has all the books. The best books. Bigly piles of books. A lot of good books. He can't even tell you how best the books are. Other people's books are losers.

[Freejin]

John has a new post up about someone's recent profession of faith and Jolis commented "Amen". Is their relationship on the mend?

[Grimalkin]

@amandaaries is strange that I love looking at people's book cases? I just love the look of shelves full of books.

[dawbs]

Just now, Grimalkin said:

@amandaaries is strange that I love looking at people's book cases? I just love the look of shelves full of books.

They're a special type of porn.
You may need to confess your sin.  Especially if you now go and lust after other's goodread shelves.

[Loveday]

16 minutes ago, Grimalkin said:

@amandaaries is strange that I love looking at people's book cases? I just love the look of shelves full of books.

When bookshelves are in the background on a television show, I'm so busy trying to read the titles that I lose track of the show's plot.  

[infooverload]

Could 6000 to 7000 books be John doing some dubious Biblical math?

[bertnee]

It can't be that old John boy is prone to exaggeration! Maybe he measures his books in cubits or handbreadths or some other biblical measurement.