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I am obsessed with all things polygamy, so I thoroughly enjoyed Seeking Sister Wife and will be headed over to that thread next. :pb_lol: My thoughts on Sister Wives this season so far:

Damn Christine and Janelle are looking great. Janelle is my fav and I'm glad we're seeing more of her.

Tony is AWFUL???!! How did Mykelti end up with him...? He's rude to her constantly. He's rude to Kody and the moms. He expects their already clearly indebted family to pay for his eleventy gazillion tacos. Oh my lord. Does he work...?? UGH. TONY.

Aspyn is gorgeous as always. Really hoping her real-life bf is featured on the show eventually.

Meri as usual is being intolerable. "Thanks for the obscenely huge house that I have zero need for. Now I'd like ANOTHER huge house I have zero need for. BUY IT FOR ME. HAVE I MENTIONED I COULDN'T HAVE EIGHT KIDS?" She clearly has no interest in Kody, the wives, or the family. They all basically admitted it. She's a trainwreck. I really feel like Meri is someone who didn't really feel called to live polygamy but did it because she was raised to believe it was the right way to live. And she spent 25 years making everyone else's lives a misery. She was horrible to Janelle. She seems okay with Christine, but they both admitted in the family's book that their relationship has no depth. She loved Robyn until Kody fell in love with Robyn, and then Meri resented her (and used her for constant emotional support - seriously, I don't know how Robyn stands it). Meri is probably one of my least favorite personalities on all of tv. She says she's lonely, but acts like she's too good to be in the "mom phase" like Janelle, Christine, and Robyn. She says she's a victim, but she's just living the consequences of her own choices. She is an emotional drain on everyone, including her own daughter. I think she has a narcissistic personality, and I can't stand her.

Why are Maddie and Caleb living in Vegas? Why is Maddie hawking LuLaRoe like Misery Meri...? I thought Janelle and her kids were the industrious ones. :pb_confused:

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So many red flags with Tony. Too many opinions. I would have escorted my future son-in-law out if he said anything remotely close to "what if I see her walking down the aisle and am all "meh" about the dress?" DUDE. If that's your biggest concern, you need to go figure out your life and then talk to my daughter.

This is what happens when your religion insists you get married before you get busy. Seriously...the boy just wants to get laid.

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I’m surprised at how crass tony talks considering he is Mormon. Especially being a returned missionary (I think??). All the jokes, especially the one about tampons, doesn’t scream Mormon to me. And then you have Mykelti in a strapless dress. It’s just confusing considering these two talk about going to church. And on a non-religious note, they are both so immature and obnoxious. 

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My impressions so far.

Tony is an obnoxious, controlling ass.

 I don’t believe Christine’s constant assertions that “ She loves the boy “  I think she is concerned about her daughter and doesn’t want a permanent rift .

Robyn keeps a saying that she and Tony have had “ deep “ conversations. I don’t think this is possible as I don’t think either of them is capable of a deep conversation.

The only thing I liked was the how Kody and Janelle reacted to the pregnancy announcement because it is lovely when news like that is received joyfully. Of course Kody then had to talk about how he should have another child which ruined my initial impression.

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9 minutes ago, Botkinetti said:

Robyn keeps a saying that she and Tony have had “ deep “ conversations. I don’t think this is possible as I don’t think either of them is capable of a deep conversation.

Deep Conversations With Robyn and Tony. Reminds me of Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy on SNL. :pb_lol:

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As to Meri, she married Kody and from the pictures looked so happy. Then came three more wives and only one child. I can’t imagine that. She is unhappy and distraught. I think the sister wives polygamous thing is strange as hell in today’s world. Of course she did it willingly. Because I guess her family is polygamous. 

It is horrible and to imagine all four of those women sleeping with the same man is alternately gross and then hysterical. 

But I watch it I guess because I am a voyeur. They do love the kids who seem happy. Well, they SEEM happy. I am impressed with the way they have treated Mariah, that is the best thing those adults have done. 

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1 hour ago, srlm said:

Holy crap that Tony is just awful.  

Couldn’t have said it better. I keep typing and erasing more comments but I keep coming back to “he’s just awful”. Haven’t seen a redeeming feature yet. 

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I'm just stopping in to add to the chorus. Entitlement seems to be the theme of this season.

If anyone besides Meri wanted to buy their grandma's house and turn it into an B&B, it would probably sound charming. She sounds selfish and whiny. But on another hand, what the hell are they supposed to do with her? Wasn't she in school at one point? She clearly stated she isn't interested in being a mommy to the other kids. That woman is desperate for meaning. I almost feel bad for her.

And I almost felt bad for them, dealing with the demands of Tony and Mykelti. What a dick. I was particularly put off by his wedding dress remarks.  Ugh.

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I sort of understand Meri a little bit.  I mean, her only child grew up and left.  That's got to be a huge adjustment.  And then Mariah came out and I thought the whole family handled that really well, except Meri seemed like she really needed a minute to absorb that, I can imagine it was a shock.  What I don't understand is why she doesn't throw herself into all of those other children.  Man, that would be fun to just hang out with a bunch of kids and not have the ultimate responsibility for them.  She could really position herself for a really fulfilling life being a sister mom to all the rest of the kids.  I don't understand why she always whines so much though.  My daughter always says she's always crying whenever she's on screen.  This season though, she seems almost maniacally giggling every time she's on screen.  

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Just realized this is the episode where Tony goes wedding dress shopping. Nope I can't make this into a drinking game, I will be unsupervised and it would be dangerous. 

Let the snarking commence. 

 

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14 minutes ago, srlm said:

I sort of understand Meri a little bit.  I mean, her only child grew up and left.  That's got to be a huge adjustment.  And then Mariah came out and I thought the whole family handled that really well, except Meri seemed like she really needed a minute to absorb that, I can imagine it was a shock.  What I don't understand is why she doesn't throw herself into all of those other children.  Man, that would be fun to just hang out with a bunch of kids and not have the ultimate responsibility for them.  She could really position herself for a really fulfilling life being a sister mom to all the rest of the kids.  I don't understand why she always whines so much though.  My daughter always says she's always crying whenever she's on screen.  This season though, she seems almost maniacally giggling every time she's on screen.  

Because Meri needs everything to be about Meri.  Even her daughter was ALWAYS about Meri to Meri.  Mariah was a bit of a prop for Meri, was a way to make Meri look good, a tool Meri could use to insist on a greater share of the resources, and when Mariah stopped living her life for Meri and started living it for herself, things went sideways.  Mariah has mentioned this a few times, in fact, about how one of the issues in their relationship is her mother's need to make EVERYTHING about herself.  Meri cannot have a single discussion about someone else and their wants/needs/etc. without turning it around and making it about her  

So she struggles to be in the family because the family is basically a team effort at this point.  Not a Meri effort.  She's not the legal wife anymore, just one of the crew.  And Meri only wants to do things that are about Meri or for Meri.  She's shown multiple times that she's not willing to be practical or a team player (the houses, for example) and would rather further the interests of Meri.  

Meri whines so much because she is an emotionally manipulative person who uses tears and pity to control those around her.  It's how she gets what she wants.  It's how she overrides the very legitimate concerns of the other adults.  It's how she makes things about HER.  It's emotional blackmail.  It's weaponized victimhood.  

Meri may be in a crap marriage, but she's also a pretty bankrupt human being.  She made the other sister wives miserable.  She REFUSED to cut back her household budget even when it would mean the other families may not have enough to make ends meet.  She insisted on luxuries for herself and Mariah even when other mothers were trying to supply the NEEDS of their children.  Everyone would probably be happier without Meri around to drain them for her own selfish ends.  

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I don't see any indication that Meri actually wanted to be in a polygamous marriage. Which I totally understand. I don't want to be in one either. But then, why go through with it?

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3 minutes ago, Eternalbluepearl said:

I don't see any indication that Meri actually wanted to be in a polygamous marriage. Which I totally understand. I don't want to be in one either. But then, why go through with it?

Meri came from a polygamous family, I believe.

Her religion teaches that polygamy is on all levels superior to monogamy.

Her husband wanted a plural marriage, and was clear about that going into the marriage I believe.  

Her religion taught that by insisting on monogamy, she would be depriving her spouse of his spiritual rights.  

She was a teenager and in love and believed it would all work out.

So no, I don't think she WANTED a plural marriage.  But I don't think she knew how to express that, defend that, or stick to it.   We have to remember that AUBs are VERY insular.  The Brown kids NOW have friends from all walks of life, but Meri likely wouldn't have.  Most if not all of her close relationships would have been with other AUB members.  If Meri had expressed a desire for monogamy, she may have been ostracized.  She certainly would have been told that she was a "bad" AUB Mormon.  If she had divorced Kody over it, she may no longer have been truly welcome in that community. Maybe even no longer welcome with her family.  

Polygamy is a BIG DEAL to these folks.  And there is a mentality of "If you're not with us, you're against us".  By personally opposing polygamy in her own life, Meri certainly would have been looked at with suspicion.  Depending on the people involved, maybe even outright distrust or hostility.  And while I wouldn't call the AUB a cult per se, they certainly do take measures to make SURE people stay in line.  And I think the reason Meri and Kody deteriorated so rapidly after leaving Utah was that Meri was no longer being regularly supplied happy polygamist kool aid and a side of "fear secular society" wafers.  

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We are getting ready to go to the shop... EVERYONE is trying to talk some sense into Tokelty EVERYONE...oh and Mykelti is again reminding us that their cultures are Mexican and vintage (notice I didn't capitalize vintage. Because it isn't a culture!) 

Also I've decided the thing that grates me about Mykelti is that she says these ridiculous things but in such a almost condescending tone? like how she places pauses and her inflection? does this make sense? Totally BE(rice)C 

This has been mentioned a few times but I'm really having a hard time reconciling Tony the returned LDS missionary with Tony talking about boobs, push up bras and tampons...do we have any ex or current LDS here that can talk about how/if this lines up with the LDS faith? I'm especially interested in the modesty part, I know that some of it is about covering the temple garments but how does Mykelti reconcile her dress choices with wanting to join the church? is it common for unbaptized LDS to follow the same belief systems (word of wisdom etc?) what about how you conduct yourself (ie Tony's "jokes" that verge on the inappropriate?)

(The moms just took a minute to discuss modesty in their faith and to clarify that the kids have some more freedom, this is why I honestly find them less terrible than some of the other families we talk about here, on a lot of issues they seem to be fairly our choice works for US it doesn't need to work for everyone else.)

"She wants her hair to be this 50's lady" Yes Tony. That is vintage. Also he loves her selflessness.... yup pushing to get married right on the heels of her sister and manipulating her parents into paying for her massive wedding and honeymoon. I love her selflessness too. (Disclaimer, I have no doubt that Tony genuinely loves her or thinks he loves her. But that's not enough for me to ignore all the other awful things here) 

I figured it out. The over involvement in picking the dress, inappropriate comments and general idiocy on camera. Tony is Kody 2.0. 

 

 

Christine is doing voice lessons to sing at the wedding, I like Christine her and Janelle are my favorites. Also I appreciate the letting the voice lesson be used for the show, that takes some confidence/vulnerability. I won't snark her for this. Also I'm watching the couch scenes and has Christine lost a lot of weight? I know JAnelle has. But Christine's limbs just look smaller haha

 

I'm finding myself very conflicted on Meri... I wonder how much of her selfish is really out of immaturity or insecurity and how much of it is also the part she's been cast into for the show. I know there's been discussion here with the houses about how some of it like the size was out of her control (although she did push for some of her extras.) I don't know either how often her house is used for family stuff etc, I know some of the younger girls went to stay with her at one point and originally there was discussion about her wanting her house to be the gathering house. I'm just conflicted. I do think she's incredibly flighty. When the show started she was working with at risk youth and that was her passion, then she was going back to school and that was her passion and then she was really into my sisterwife's closet now it's the B&B she just seems all over the place. But again I think that could be from being unsure of her identity and where she belongs. I'm also going to risk some downvotes and say I'm not on board with casting Meri as a terrible mom and Mariah as a victim. Mariah gets a pass because she's a kid but she's not perfect. I remember things like her bawling and sobbing when Meri didn't think she would have another baby, sulking when it looked like they wouldn't get into the house on time, some entitlement with wanting to go to the most expensive school etc, of course some of this is likely learned behaviour. I don't like Meri by any means, but I think it's maybe more immaturity than outright malice. 

 

 

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I know active, faithful LDS people who talk similar to Tony and even swear, and then there are others who wouldn't dream about talking that way. There's a lot of individual variation within the LDS.

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Watching the second half (now with wine!) Also apologies.... apparently this turned into a recap. Whoooops 

This Bed and Breakfast thing is already boring me...I do like Janelle though and how she always seems so even keeled in response to Meri, she's being super supportive of this and I also think it was her who during the house fiasco sort of put her foot down and said you know I don't think it's fair for Meri to not get what she wants based on only having one kid. She just seems to be so supportive of the other 3 without like alienating anyone. Also what is it Meri? is this going to take you away from the family or not? and stop saying that the onus is also on the other 3 to do xyz, when YOU pull away YOU need to come back. I get what she said about not parenting the younger kids, especially since they all have older kids in the house too. I can see some conflict coming up around an older kid being around but Meri coming in to take care of just the youngers? I can totally picture their having been some discussions with the olders along the lines of "We can have another mom come in and take care of them and you will have another parent around. OR you can do it and have the freedom that comes with it" Especially since I don't get the impression that these kids do much Duggar style sister momming. 

Back to wedding prep and Tony's 4000 tacos...bring the wine say I ! 

Did I hear this right??? is he wearing his wedding band before the wedding? I mean I get the sentiment... but like was there no other way he could signify his commitment? maybe even just call it an engagement ring... but don't wear your wedding ring before the wedding. Gosh these kids. Thank you TLC for a nice shot of a plate, those tacos aren't small those are like regular size soft shell tacos... oh but wait! They are trying to talk tentacotony down to 3 tacos per person. He still thinks they will run out of food. I think I might run out of wine. 

They are having a cake buffet and the parents look confused, I'm confused as to why Mykelti is suddenly holding a unicorn. Oops I lied it's a chess piece, still why is she holding it? They don't want an actual wedding cake, they want two bride and groom cakes, a cake buffet (and Tony's Dos Leches cake?) Plus the two desserts at the country club....oooof these kids. 

Mykelti doesn't want cake shoved in her face, tackytentacotony plans to do it anyway. He ascertains that tacy is just a white word for nothing...keep telling yourself that. 

Mykelti just admitted that she married her father. Yes yes you did. 

The wives are doing another song and dance, Janelle doesn't want to but she's being a good sister wife mom and soldiering through to show her support. This is painful and boring to watch, I'll drink more wine. They are doing I will survive... which strikes me as an interesting choice for a bridal shower seeing as it's about a break up.  

Time for Maddy and CamoCaleb to make an appearance... they have goood news and bad news...they are both going to University and Wyoming and Kody gets nervous about University bad news because they could be dropping out or changing their major. I'm actuallly begrudgingly impressed with the focus this family puts on education, it gives me hope. 

Maddy and Caleb are giving Kody and Janelle a present "as a thank you for the wedding and stuff" It's pacifiers, Kody is thrilled! The bad news is they are going to have another Spring birthday.

Maddy and Caleb were nervous at first but are thrilled now, they seem to be having such a normal response to this. 

They aren't sure when to tell the family though because... they don't want to steal Mykeltis thunder (because that was such a concern for Mykelti.) They also just found out and don't want to jinx it, Janeele agrees that it might be good to wait until 3 months or so. Kody suggests the 1st of Nov, Maddy is small and could start showing early and it's a month or more before the wedding. Kody wants to tell everyone but says polygamist husbands are good at keeping secrets, women have intuition though and can tell when he's super happy. This family also talked a lot about how all moms are equal! but I think they are only telling Janelle for now...the easy solution seems to be tell the moms now and tell the whole family in Nov. But again just me. 

Kody joked about wanting to have one more just after so he can. They talk about how in bigger (polygamist) fmailies this isn't uncommon. Maddy thinks it would be weird to be pregnant at the same time as one of her moms though. To be honest though other than the keeping it a secret I'm having a hard time finding things to snark on here... I just hope this is the life they want and that Maddy is able to pursue her dreams and motherhood. 

Next week on sister wives... more wine! 

 

 

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I stopped watching during the cat fishing season. So Robyn had a little boy with long hair, then a girl? Janelle was working with a personal trainer and sister wives jewelry was getting funding. Cody had a balding mullet and  was repulsive in my ever so humble opinion. Has anything big changed other than some of the older marrying off? Reality is so much less awesome than Big Love. :ETONNER:

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27 minutes ago, Rachel333 said:

I bet Christine is thrilled with this match, as opposed to Mykelti and Tony.

Bahaha her first twitter post was definitely more enthusiastic. But she's spent a lot of time tweeting Tony's praises (because who wants to be the mom that seems to hate her son in law?) 

It does make me smirk that Aspyn got People and Mykelti got USWeekly. 

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19 minutes ago, LacyMay said:

Bahaha her first twitter post was definitely more enthusiastic. But she's spent a lot of time tweeting Tony's praises (because who wants to be the mom that seems to hate her son in law?) 

It does make me smirk that Aspyn got People and Mykelti got USWeekly. 

Yeah, she seemed on the show to have to remind herself frequently that she likes Tony!

I like Christine; she's definitely my favorite of the five parents. Robyn has actually grown on me too, surprisingly.

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