Lori Alexander 15: Leaving A Fire With Her Makeup Bag

[mango_fandango]

Holy crap. I'd never really seen a photo of Ken before. That is quite the pornstache. Ryan and Steven really look like him. 

[Joyce]

In the website of Alexander and Sons, why is it that only Emily, Steven's bride, is described as beautiful and only Ryan's children are adorable?

Lori can be lovely. Ken and Lori's children are courageous. Their grandchildren are gifted if not great. Erin is enchanting.

[SweetFellowshipper]

On 2/23/2017 at 6:32 AM, Petronella said:

Wow! I am astonished that people say such things to your face!

Oh my god it is CONSTANT. Or people will speak to me assuming my husband can't talk because he's in a wheelchair. 

Being disabled has its advantages though...You learn how many people are rude or have a very limited idea of the world. 

[Joyce]

I love the response of Anonymous Mother to Trey:

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Trey,

Thank you for your comment, but I’ve been there before. I went through the guilt trip for many, many years; I finally decided that he needed to own his situation and I detached myself from it. I am not purchasing tickets for guilt trips anymore.

“Since he would not submit to your will and change to make you happy, you have taken your toys and went to your room.”

I didn’t ask him to “submit” to me at all; I needed to save my sanity. I tried, and tried, and tried. I understand that you haven’t heard his side of the story, but please note that you always default to this way of thinking. It’s a bit one sided.

Detaching with love isn’t necessarily bad; sometimes it’s absolutely necessary. I’ve read enough around to see that men seem to do it quite a bit.

I simply commented. That’s all. This is what helped me. I thought it would help somebody. Thanks for hearing. I’m finished now. Blessings to all.

 

Anonymous Mother, part 2:

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Forgot. You said:

“Is it possible that you are to blame for this situation? Were you so stubborn, rational, intellectual, self-righteous and contentious that YOU brought this trouble on your marriage?”

I never said I wasn’t to blame. I tried to address his problems and concerns.

“he was expressing his displeasure at the way you were (your examples were) cooking, home-schooling the kids, almost everything, makes me wonder why there was so much contention between the two of you. If you were being a Godly wife, in complete submission to him, and open to complying with his wishes (or obeying his instructions) on these matters, then at some point there would have been no further contention and no ongoing conflict.”

There is a common mistake here assuming that if the woman behaves in exactly a certain way, her husband will automatically be wonderful to her. Not so. You are forgetting here the very important factor of free will and he has the free will to do as he wishes. I cannot make him do anything, no matter what I do. I have already said what happened when I tried to jump through the hoops; I am not going there again because I was getting seriously ill both mentally and physically. Finally someone drummed it through my head that he was responsible for his own decisions and meanwhile it was my responsibility to maintain my mental and physical health so I could care for my children and not end up a complete mess.

Thank you, again, for your time and attention. It is appreciated.

 

[molecule]

1 hour ago, AlwaysDiscerning said:

 

Lori is defending her gift of prophesy today:

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Older women also use all three of these things (prophesy: edify, exhort, comfort) with younger women as I do in order to teach all aspects of godly womanhood. Ken has told me that I have the gift of prophesy but I certainly don’t ever speak out in a church service or hear a “new word” apart from Scriptures.

 

I laughed out loud when I saw today's post. She defends her gift of prophecy and attacks the same gift in others by . . . . teaching us the bible on her public blog! She goes through quite a few verses and explains them to us. 

In Wednesday's post, "Should Women Teach the Bible in Public?", which she says,

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God made it clear exactly what He wants women to teach other women in Titus 2:3-5. There is absolutely no guesswork in this. 

Yet here she is, two days later, explaining teaching what the bible means, in public, about something that has nothing to do with being a keeper at home, a wife, or a mother.

Friday's post contradicts Wednesday's post. Just another week on the Planet Lori.

[usmcmom]

15 minutes ago, Joyce said:

In the website of Alexander and Sons, why is it that only Emily, Steven's bride, is described as beautiful and only Ryan's children are adorable?

Lori can be lovely. Ken and Lori's children are courageous. Their grandchildren are gifted if not great. Erin is enchanting.

I have often thought Ken's admiration of Emily goes a bit beyond what a man should feel for his daughter-in-law. Also, he may not describe Erin as "beautiful" but he does seem somewhat obsessed with her too. There have been several mentions of "how feminine Erin is" or "how gentle and submissive Erin is". I recall one post in which Lori wrote something like "Ryan was telling Ken about how Erin is always waiting for him with a smile at the end of the day...." or something like that. It just had a really creepy vibe to it; like Ken specifically asks about things like that. 

These comments took place when Ryan's family was mentioned more frequently on the blog. I think Lori was instructed to leave them out of her "ministry" after she posted the horrible story of Ryan making his daughter sit on a blanket and scream through meals. That brought lots of discussion here and I think Ryan insisted his mother stop painting him as abusive. Because that is exactly the image she has given him. This is all just my opinion, of course. 

[Joyce]

The fruit does not often fall far from the tree. If children stray,  maybe Lori believes that spanking them will work. Otherwise, she can threaten their souls with eternal damnation.

Ryan's actions made me remember some quotes from a movie that literally means "Child, Child, how were you made?" that I'm translating into English:

Child: "My mother said, 'If it is true, you should not be ashamed.'"

Man: "But if you steal, should you not be ashamed?"

Child: "My mother said, 'If it is shameful, you should not do it.'"

[crawfishgirl]

Have you seen the cover photo on Ken's facebook page?  Lori and all of the daughters / in-law have short dresses.  They look ok to me, but with all of her modesty nagging, I'm surprised about it.  I think that maybe Ken likes to show them off...   "Do what I say, not what I do"   https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010822237874&fref=ufi&rc=p 

[louisa05]

18 minutes ago, crawfishgirl said:

Have you seen the cover photo on Ken's facebook page?  Lori and all of the daughters / in-law have short dresses.  They look ok to me, but with all of her modesty nagging, I'm surprised about it.  I think that maybe Ken likes to show them off...   "Do what I say, not what I do"   https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010822237874&fref=ufi&rc=p 

Lori's is one of the shortest, too. Well, then, O Godly Mentor, explain how that length is modest, please? 

And the girl on the end in purple, that dress looks pretty tight, too. As does the one on the girl closest to Ken. 

These people have never heard the phrase "practice what you preach", have they?

[Hane]

Poor Anonymous Mother. According to Trey, she is simultaneously overly intellectual AND off-the-charts irrational.

Kudos to her. I would have told both Trey and her husband to go fuck themselves.

[ViolaSebastian]

1 hour ago, molecule said:

I laughed out loud when I saw today's post. She defends her gift of prophecy and attacks the same gift in others by . . . . teaching us the bible on her public blog! She goes through quite a few verses and explains them to us. 

In Wednesday's post, "Should Women Teach the Bible in Public?", which she says,

Yet here she is, two days later, explaining teaching what the bible means, in public, about something that has nothing to do with being a keeper at home, a wife, or a mother.

Friday's post contradicts Wednesday's post. Just another week on the Planet Lori.

Two days ago she said women couldn't be prophets! Two days! I am seriously concerned for her health, it's worrisome that she contradicts herself so blatantly in such a short timespan. 

[usmcmom]

In the "Resources" section of his website, I found this gem of a post:

http://www.alexanderandsons.consulting/resources/2015/6/10/value-based-team-building

[molecule]

51 minutes ago, ViolaSebastian said:

Two days ago she said women couldn't be prophets! Two days! I am seriously concerned for her health, it's worrisome that she contradicts herself so blatantly in such a short timespan. 

Yes. Even beyond the hypocrisy, Lori regular demonstrates cognitive lapses.  

[dairyfreelife]

On 2/22/2017 at 11:57 PM, lawfulevil said:

I got a lot of pleasure out of cheesecake at one point. It was my favorite dessert. But I haven't had a slice in seven or eight years now, because I became violently lactose intolerant in my early 20s. Reward: I think I enjoyed cheesecake far more than Lori has ever enjoyed sex with Ken. Risk: Suddenly needing to buy new pants (uh, QUITE suddenly). Nope, not worth it...

FYI, OT, but I discovered a dairy-free cheesecake that's quite good if I do say so myself. It's Daiya brand cheesecake. It's not the cheapest so I only get on nice occasions, but you may like it. I do not care much for Daiya cheese, so was skeptical, but I was very surprised at how great it tasted. My bf, who eats dairy without issue, likes it as well. 

[usmcmom]

14 minutes ago, dairyfreelife said:

FYI, OT, but I discovered a dairy-free cheesecake that's quite good if I do say so myself. It's Daiya brand cheesecake. It's not the cheapest so I only get on nice occasions, but you may like it. I do not care much for Daiya cheese, so was skeptical, but I was very surprised at how great it tasted. My bf, who eats dairy without issue, likes it as well. 

I second this!  I developed an allergy to dairy protein a few years ago and so have had to go dairy free as well.  The Daiya cheesecake is a nice treat. I like to spread a little lemon curd and Raspberry preserves on mine. Strawberry jam is good too. 

The only Daiya cheese I like is the "medium cheddar." but mainly grated into eggs. I have yet to find anything that works with pizza.  Boy, I miss pizza. 

[freealljs]

2 hours ago, usmcmom said:

In the "Resources" section of his website, I found this gem of a post:

http://www.alexanderandsons.consulting/resources/2015/6/10/value-based-team-building

It's up to the "manger", and "clicks" instead of "cliques."   Hehe, I'm a big stickler for grammar and proper spelling in documents that come across my desk. I can see that Ken Alexander, who thinks child molestation is normal, is not into others proof-reading his work. Can you imagine the person who dare tell Ken Alexander that he made some misspellings and grammatical errors in his beloved documents? SHE would be told to say "I'm sorry" and not to gossip. LOL I bet that he doesn't take criticism very well.

I found the list rather presumptuous. It almost comes out like the new employee is the one with the problem, if SHE brings up anything.  But then, I'll take it to the "manger." 

I'd go nuts, if I had to follow those rules in a professional setting. It's like workplace biblical submission. 

Sorry for the rambling. It's been a long week at work.

[smittykins]

I saw "clicks"(that one bugs me, too), but missed "manger."

*insert baby Jesus reference of your choice*

[Koala]

3 hours ago, crawfishgirl said:

Have you seen the cover photo on Ken's facebook page?  Lori and all of the daughters / in-law have short dresses.  They look ok to me, but with all of her modesty nagging, I'm surprised about it.  I think that maybe Ken likes to show them off...   "Do what I say, not what I do"   https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010822237874&fref=ufi&rc=p 

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 To avoid gossip and only talk about negative things to someone who can help me with the issue or problem.

Guess Lori hasn't gotten the message on that one, because her blog pretty much revolves around gossiping about people.

[Hisey]

Lori's blog used to be generic fundie, and was even sometimes a light, somewhat enjoyable read--like when she'd include recipes or tell (non disciplinary) stories about her kids when they were young. 

Now, it's taken a darker turn. Did you see the latest comments from "Ben"? Where he insists men have the right to impose "light punishments" on their wives. Like cutting up credit cards and . . . who knows what else he is thinking but does not dare to say. And Lori loved his comments so much she said she is making them into a post! She definitely has a kink. I'll bet within a week his comments will be the subject of a post, and the part about "light punishment" will be included.

Lori is merging factions with the MRA, though she doesn't know it. She seems to think that Trey, Ben and Co. are just godly men who happen along her blog, in between going to church, mowing the lawn, and setting firm but loving boundaries with their wives. She doesn't seem to recognize them for the basement-dwelling slime they are.

[childerowland]

I wonder whether Trey believes that women have souls.

[Hane]

2 minutes ago, childerowland said:

I wonder whether Trey believes that women have souls.

Shades of Mr. "Mybug" in "Cold Comfort Farm"! I thought of this, too!

[AlwaysDiscerning]

Trey says:

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February 24, 2017 at 7:49 am

HappyHomemaker,
What a beautiful testimony!
You say “You see, it’s funny how God works! All those years, I was the reason he didn’t cherish me because I was fighting and rebelling against my Godly design… I was created to be my husband’s helpmeet, I was created to submit, serve and obey him. It took me a long time to realize that by submitting to him I was showing him respect. And since I was respecting him and obeying my God-given role, my husband responded (I don’t know why….”

 

See he LOVES HappyHomemaker. Why? Because she admitted "I was the reason he didn't cherish me". She admits fault. 

Trey:

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. A woman treating a man with respect and submission is VERY attractive and is of great value in our eyes. You become beautiful and this draws us back to you. You become something to be valued and cherished and protected.

IOW, you aren't worth being protected by virtue of being a living human being, no you only get value and protection if you submit. 

I think this explains how they justify abuse. 

[Gemini]

18 hours ago, feministxtian said:

And men are NEVER EVER irrational? Umm...RIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!! 

What a dick. 

I'd like to point Trey, Dave and Ken to the mirror where they can view exhibits A,B and C on irrational behaviour. They can also view exhibits on deplorable, pathetic excuses of the male species whilst they are there. 

[KDA]

1 hour ago, Hisey said:

Lori's blog used to be generic fundie, and was even sometimes a light, somewhat enjoyable read--like when she'd include recipes or tell (non disciplinary) stories about her kids when they were young. 

Now, it's taken a darker turn. Did you see the latest comments from "Ben"? Where he insists men have the right to impose "light punishments" on their wives. Like cutting up credit cards and . . . who knows what else he is thinking but does not dare to say. And Lori loved his comments so much she said she is making them into a post! She definitely has a kink. I'll bet within a week his comments will be the subject of a post, and the part about "light punishment" will be included.

Lori is merging factions with the MRA, though she doesn't know it. She seems to think that Trey, Ben and Co. are just godly men who happen along her blog, in between going to church, mowing the lawn, and setting firm but loving boundaries with their wives. She doesn't seem to recognize them for the basement-dwelling slime they are.

Judging by his comments, Ben is one of those chaps who is into CDD. I could be wrong, but that would be my best bet.

 

On another note, a Facebook friend (not someone I know in real life but someone I met on a forum for abused women) commented on Lori's post about withholding sex. The comment was slamming Trey's response which has already been posted here (that really nasty one). I don't know exactly what the original comment said, but the comment that Lori posted had been edited so much that the whole gist of the comment had been changed. "Marjorie" is the commenter I'm talking about - he comment now is just random, not the scathing attack she originally wrote. She shared this on Facebook, but it's a private group so I can't post it here.

[AlwaysDiscerning]

Wow I see the Marjorie comment. So Lori edited to leave in the parts that look like she is praising Lori? Or did she add in that part about how this blog is helping her server her husband better?