Lori Alexander 15: Leaving A Fire With Her Makeup Bag

[lawfulevil]

Wow, I'm surprised it went so suddenly, when the clutch on my old car went bad it was gradual.

Are you pissed because it died early? I had 120k miles on the wagon when mine went so I wasn't really surprised.

[feministxtian]

13 minutes ago, lawfulevil said:

Wow, I'm surprised it went so suddenly, when the clutch on my old car went bad it was gradual.

Are you pissed because it died early? I had 120k miles on the wagon when mine went so I wasn't really surprised.

Fucker just groaned and squealed like a stuck pig. Problem is it's been sitting for awhile and all the grease and shit wasn't all where it should have been. It had been sending signals for a little while but I was hoping to get a couple of months out of it before it died. I am beyond pissed...mostly because I HATE driving that fucking Expedition...it's like a fucking tank that can't get out of its own way. 

 

[onemama]

Dave:

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My contention has been that the healing of the church starts with women getting back in their rightful place. And that healing starts, and continues, in the bed …physically and emotionally.

That may very well be your contention, but you have zero Biblical support so.... contend away!

 

[SweetFellowshipper]

10 hours ago, AlwaysDiscerning said:

A male reader:

" A man gives love to get sex a woman gives sex to receive love."

Its prostitution for them. Swap in money for love. So, a man's love is just to get something huh, how sweet. 

 

Really, male reader? Cause I have sex to get mine. 

[KDA]

I haven't read all the comments, so if this has gone way off track, I apologise. I will go back and read all the comments later.

But I just wanted to add to the few comments I started reading about today's "gem" from "Trey". I am so angry I am shaking. This post both disgusted and horrified me. How can he claim that most women have never been physically abused, and then claim that a woman refusing her tosswad of a husband sex is physically abusive?

This is a new low. When is Lori going to wake up? This misogynistic, pig of a man is going to lose Lori readers (which can only be a good thing). How can this man consider himself to be a Christian?

[onemama]

1 hour ago, KDA said:

But I just wanted to add to the few comments I started reading about today's "gem" from "Trey". I am so angry I am shaking. This post both disgusted and horrified me. How can he claim that most women have never been physically abused, and then claim that a woman refusing her tosswad of a husband sex is physically abusive?

This is a new low. When is Lori going to wake up? This misogynistic, pig of a man is going to lose Lori readers (which can only be a good thing). How can this man consider himself to be a Christian?

In my experience, a person who thinks himself (or herself) more right than everyone else , speaking for God, basically, usually ends up holding some very aberrant views. Like Trey, Lori, the Pearls, the Baylys.... just try to reason with them and they'll tell you that you're wrong, in rebellion against God, or that you should take your claim up with God. I really think Trey and Dave are blind to their error and people like Lori and Ken are only feeding their delusion. 

Lori has no desire to wake up. I think she likes the male company.

He thinks he's part of "the remnant" and that any Christian who doesn't believe in his understanding of the Bible is delusional and going to hell.  

I sure hope these posts serve the purpose of showing Lori's naive followers just how nasty and horrible she really is.  I hope more and more women walk away. 

[lawfulevil]

I guess this is why fundies don't have nuns- they don't want to admit that any woman could look at marriage and go "thanks, but no thanks".

-Avoiding sex outside (idk, having your entire lower half missing?) is sinful and destroys whole families. You're SERVING SATAN because blue balls.

-God made sex for marriage, and women and men should enjoy it "equally", but that doesn't mean equally-equally, it means men should orgasm and women should enjoy occupying their proper place in life. Everyone is equal but some are more equal than others.

-If it weren't for boners men wouldn't even put up with women, because (aside from actually seeing women as people) apparently woman-less households are like the household from Beauty and the Beast- inanimate objects come to life and do all the basic necessities of life that are beneath menfolk. Why, children even bear and raise themselves.

-Women having any emotions that differentiate them from a rug is inconvenient and unGodly.

-Why do women keep objecting to being treated like a hole in an apple pie? Men only care about their penises, ladies, and if it weren't for penis stuff, they'd never put up with you telling them you're a person with valid thoughts and emotions.

-God made sex to bring a husband and wife together in body, soul, and spirit. Sort of like God made bacon to be man food AND dog treats.

-Listen, you can't just ACT like a porn star, he has to believe you really mean it even though there's absolutely no way any human person could want sex more than sleep after 16 solid hours of emotionally intensive manual labor. WE DEMAND REAL ORGASMS, LADIES.

-But it's fine for men to fake actually caring about you. Even if it means they occasionally have to pitch in on caring for their own home and/or their own children. The suffering. Oh, the suffering. Please donate to the Fund For Poor Sad Beleaguered American Men Asked To Bathe Their Own Children.

-Spread 'em and try for that Oscar, and maybe, just maybe, I'll vacuum something without wishing you were dead. But only maybe.

-Gosh, why do so many women think they have shitty marriages? Must be sin. Sinny sin sin sin. Couldn't be reality. Could it? NAHHH.

-Remember, ultimately you're in control! You can be an exhausted doormat or you can be a PLEASANT exhausted doormat. It's all up to you!

Up yours, stupid womenfolk, you're only holes. The Bible says so, so pray on it and do what I say or else. -The Gospel of St. Paul

[AlwaysDiscerning]

I don't get how Lori's post about housework is the one that went viral and not something like this latest one with Trey's comments. Housework is so incredibly mild compared to things she is endorsing that Trey says. 

[smittykins]

@lawfulevil:

 

 x a million.

[louisa05]

Today , rich, privileged Lori who has a degree and a husband and four kids who also went to college, shares a link about college being a scam and unnecessary for financial success.

More so as I say not as I do.

And the blog is about why women shouldn't teach the Bible. Yes, FJ, today Lori uses the Bible to teach us that we women are forbidden from teaching the Bible to anyone.

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

OMG, Lori and her everlasting crusade that college is bad, college is EVIL, college always equals massive debt. Has Lori never heard of scholarships or work-study programs? 

What is it with fundies and debt?  We all know living beyond one's means and excessive debt is bad. We all know that saving/ investing for retirement and the future (maybe even the evil college for the kids) is prudent. 

But seriously this mantra of "No Debt At All .... Ever!!!!!" is just not feasible.

Did LoriKen buy their current and previous house(s) for cash?  Have they bought all their cars for cash? Do they have no credit cards?  When Ken travels for business does he pay cash for everything, including plane tickets? (Airlines side eye tickets bought with cash).  Did Ken start his consulting business from scratch on a shoestring -- not even a loan from Lori's father?  Did they pay for their son's dental school with cash?  (Dental school like med school is hella expensive).

Inquiring minds want to know, Because if they are going to talk it, they need to walk it.

[polecat]

9 hours ago, onemama said:

My contention has been that the healing of the church starts with women getting back in their rightful place. And that healing starts, and continues, in the bed …physically and emotionally.

 

Dave is putting his penis on the same level as God. Penis worship. Literal penis worship. 

I can guarantee his penis isn't worth worshiping.

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“Let the woman learn in silence – Listen attentively to instruction, without attempting to teach in public.”

Pssssst, Lori ... the Internet is public.

[choralcrusader8613]

12 minutes ago, polecat said:

Pssssst, Lori ... the Internet is public.

Well, no one's accused her of having excellent reading comprehension.

[molecule]

Did we talk about Dave's comment yet?

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Dave says:

February 21, 2017 at 4:06 pm

I agree whole heartedly. Calling a spade a spade. Wow. So well said. That took me farther than I realized about myself. I never thought about it, but ya, I would never tie myself down to a woman if it were not for the expectation of sex. And, I don’t think I would be interested in pro-creation if sex didn’t come before and after.

My contention has been that the healing of the church starts with women getting back in their rightful place. And that healing starts, and continues, in the bed …physically and emotionally. [boldfacing mine]

It is no coincidence that God likens His relationship to us as marriage, intimacy, “to know”, etc, and that the rejection of Him of any excuse [idols] is adultery.

Bravo Trey.

 

The healing of the church start with women getting back in their rightful place . . . in the bed.

This makes me ill. I've made no secret of the fact that sex is the area in which I least disagree with Lori because of the work I do--but she totally misses the boat on why sex matters and on women as sexual beings. I have a real problem with her letting a guy lecture women about sex on her blog, and Dave's comment is awful.

[Koala]

38 minutes ago, polecat said:

Pssssst, Lori ... the Internet is public.

Can you cite a Bible verse saying that the internet is public?  If not, you are just a detractor, and Lori doesn't have to listen to you.  

Everyone knows that Jesus has different rules for the internet. Kind of like yesterday when a bunch of married men and women were chatting about their sex lives on Lori's blog. Some detractor went and objected, and poor Lori had to explain to her that it's totally okay as long as you don't talk about it in person!  I mean it's not like they were sitting in a room talking about their sex lives. Gah, doesn't anyone read the Bible anymore?

[Jellybean]

Maybe Dave doesn't mean that women should be in bed to give sex to their men. Maybe he means that the healing of the church begins with allowing women to get adequate physical and emotional rest.

 

**I'm pretty sure that's not what he meant, but that's how I'm choosing to read it

[DinglyDoll]

On 2/7/2017 at 6:37 AM, AlwaysDiscerning said:

LOL, YUP she has a major crush on him!!

Ewww... I couldn't be in the same state with that man. 

[freealljs]

Has it been confirmed if Dave is married or in a relationship? Usually, those who talk a lot about sex aren't the ones getting much action.  

I'd confront Dave and Lori, but LorKen blocked me.

[lilwriter85]

2 hours ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

OMG, Lori and her everlasting crusade that college is bad, college is EVIL, college always equals massive debt. Has Lori never heard of scholarships or work-study programs? 

What is it with fundies and debt?  We all know living beyond one's means and excessive debt is bad. We all know that saving/ investing for retirement and the future (maybe even the evil college for the kids) is prudent. 

But seriously this mantra of "No Debt At All .... Ever!!!!!" is just not feasible.

Did LoriKen buy their current and previous house(s) for cash?  Have they bought all their cars for cash? Do they have no credit cards?  When Ken travels for business does he pay cash for everything, including plane tickets? (Airlines side eye tickets bought with cash).  Did Ken start his consulting business from scratch on a shoestring -- not even a loan from Lori's father?  Did they pay for their son's dental school with cash?  (Dental school like med school is hella expensive).

Inquiring minds want to know, Because if they are going to talk it, they need to walk it.

Lori will never answer those questions. She has said that in the early years of her marriage that her parents helped them with the trailer rent and IIRC, they also gave them a car.  We know Ken came from a poor family, so I wouldn't be surprised if Lori's father helped Ken set up his business. There is nothing with taking help from family and/or in-laws, but I don't think Ken would ever admit to it.

I would say that Ken probably has business credit cards and again they wouldn't admit to that. I also don't think they are buying certain things in cash.  I'm really curious about how the son's dental and orthodontic school expenses were paid for. Lori's son-in-law is in dental school now. Lori said that he attends the cheapest dental school in the US, but he left pharmacy school to pursue dental school. I wonder if he has debt from that.

Lori has proven herself to be quite dim on education, career training, and other issues. She once blogged about how "there should be schools for plumbers and electricians". It was like she never heard of trade schools before. She's probably in the dark about work study or scholarship programs.

Lori, Ken, their kids, and spouses probably have some debt. I don't think Alyssa's husband would ever make enough for them to buy a house in cash in California. Same with Ryan and his wife. Of course, we don't if either one of those couples is renting or has a mortgage. The Alexanders and their kids aren't like the Maxwells or other fundie families who do try to buy homes and other things in cash. 

[onemama]

@freealljs, Dave is married. I don't know about Trey.

This is from the post where Dave says Lori is the most beautiful woman

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 I wait for the day that my wife’s heart ‘beauty’ exceeds her wonderful physical beauty. 

 

And this gem is part of another response:

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Not to worry about me and my marriage. The Lord has us in this place for a reason. We don’t walk in the spirit unless we are in dispare of ourselves. No cross, no Jesus. I venture to say there are few on earth who have spent more time talking to God and searching scripture the last 3 years than me including up hours in the middle of most every night having spend maybe 6-7000 hours studying and writing about the condition of the church and marriage.

Ah, Dave, perhaps it's time you set that subject aside and started to actually live life with the woman you chose to marry. After all that study, it doesn't sound like you've come any closer to loving your wife and enjoying life with the person she is. What a waste of time. 

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

if Dave has spent 6000-7000 hours in the past 3 years studying and writing about the church and the condition of marriage -- he has spent over 2000 hrs/ year on this.  That's 40 hours a week for 50 weeks each year,

I assume Dave has a job, I think I remember he's a lawyer or some big banking executive?

So let's break this down:  24 hour day = 8 hours work (M-F), 8 hours study/ writing and 8 hours for sleep, eating, sex, family interaction, commuting from work, exercise, and misc. activities.

         "The Lord has us in this place for a reason. We don’t walk in the spirit unless we are in dispare of ourselves.   No cross, no Jesus.  I venture to say there are few on earth who have spent more time talking to God and searching scripture the last 3 years than me including up hours in the middle of most every night having spend maybe 6-7000  hours studying and writing about the condition of the church and marriage."

I think Dave is prevaricating.

Oh and Dave....  2 things    1) While you're at it studying, learn to spell -- it's despair  and 2) No you are not on a cross of your own,  As we say down South 'get off the cross honey, somebody needs the wood'.

 

[louisa05]

if Dave has spent 6000-7000 hours in the past 3 years studying and writing about the church and the condition of marriage -- he has spent over 2000 hrs/ year on this.  That's 40 hours a week for 50 weeks each year,
I assume Dave has a job, I think I remember he's a lawyer or some big banking executive?
So let's break this down:  24 hour day = 8 hours work (M-F), 8 hours study/ writing and 8 hours for sleep, eating, sex, family interaction, commuting from work, exercise, and misc. activities.
         "The Lord has us in this place for a reason. We don’t walk in the spirit unless we are in dispare of ourselves.   No cross, no Jesus.  I venture to say there are few on earth who have spent more time talking to God and searching scripture the last 3 years than me including up hours in the middle of most every night having spend maybe 6-7000  hours studying and writing about the condition of the church and marriage."
I think Dave is prevaricating.
Oh and Dave....  2 things    1) While you're at it studying, learn to spell -- it's despair  and 2) No you are not on a cross of your own,  As we say down South 'get off the cross honey, somebody needs the wood'.
 

Well, he only keeps his wife around for sex. And he only had children because of sex. So it is safe to assume we can take family interaction off his list.

I just can't with these assholes.

[Koala]

I live in the south, so maybe we're all just prudes down here, but do people usually talk about sex as much as Lori does?  Her notebook doodle today is about sex....again.  

I have some godless Atheist friends, and none of us running around bragging about how modest or discreet we are.  That said, we have never discussed sex.  Not even once that I can think of.  

Same goes for my religious friends.  They don't go running around bragging about how modest and discreet they are, and we've never discussed our sex lives. 

It's like that's all these people have on the brain.  It's really kind of off putting.

And by "kind of" I mean "VERY".

Also, watching this thing play out between Lori and her male readers is pure crazy town.  I was used to Ken and all of his shenanigans, but this is new for Lori.  I think it's probably been very eye-opening for some her former readers.

[Koala]

Wait just a minute.

Lori Alexander:

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There aren't any women called Prophets either since this role was given to men.

Ken Alexander 2014:

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She certainly is not trying to offend, but she has a prophetic gift... 

Lori Alexander 2016:

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Ken has told me that I have the gift of prophecy many times

Also, her big argument is that women should keep silent in church.  If she really believes that, then why did her church have to call Ken to tell him that she wasn't allowed to TEACH on certain subjects on church grounds??  If she was silent, there would have been no complaints.

[feministxtian]

2 hours ago, Koala said:

I live in the south, so maybe we're all just prudes down here, but do people usually talk about sex as much as Lori does?  Her notebook doodle today is about sex....again.  

I have some godless Atheist friends, and none of us running around bragging about how modest or discreet we are.  That said, we have never discussed sex.  Not even once that I can think of.  

Same goes for my religious friends.  They don't go running around bragging about how modest and discreet they are, and we've never discussed our sex lives. 

It's like that's all these people have on the brain.  It's really kind of off putting.

And by "kind of" I mean "VERY".

Also, watching this thing play out between Lori and her male readers is pure crazy town.  I was used to Ken and all of his shenanigans, but this is new for Lori.  I think it's probably been very eye-opening for some her former readers.

Talking about sex is something limited to VERY CLOSE friends and it's not a constant topic of conversation...I've lived in the south, the midwest and the southwest. Honestly, the last conversation I can remember having about sex was with my husband's doctors after his surgery...how long he had to wait to have sex. Doctor said 6 weeks...unless you can find a way that won't put pressure on the abdomen (said with a wink and a smile). 

In reality...I talk about sex the most here on fj...I mean...with my friends, we're all married. Its safe to assume we have sex.