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John Shrader Pt 10 - God's Glutton's Greatest Grifts


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A couple thoughts: 

what church requires "discipline" like John's does. I've heard of people having to confess their sins and repent in front of the congregation, but John makes it seem like there's actual punishment involved. Very cult-ish.

Stop trying to be a romantic poet, John. Your literally skills are shakey on a good day so there's no need to try and impress people with poorly rhyming poems. 

It sounds like John is being investigated by someone. For what, we don't know. I suspect his finances and get rich quick schemes that have failing and only hurt the people (and chickens) he's "helping". Why else would he be asking people to be on the lookout for folks spying on him and Esther, really? I'm interested to see where this goes. I hope he gets fined by the government and deported.  

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Umm...it doesn't look like that juice fast worked too well on John.  I"m guessing he had juice for breakfast and lunch on the first day and around 3:00pm had a sudden revelation from god to go into town for supplies for his ministry.:naughty:

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20 hours ago, Bethella said:

@JeanieCat This is one of the worst church discipline cases I've heard about: while serving as missionaries Jordan Root confessed to his wife that he watched child porn and had previously abused young children. They were sent back to the US where she filed for an annulment (that the marriage had been based on fraud). He repented so the church was fine with him but based on their church covenant she was supposed to seek reconciliation before filing for divorce, but seeking reconciliation would have voided the annulment proceedings. She actually left the church, but they didn't accept her resignation, so she was placed under church discipline that should have been considered harassment and stalking. 

http://thewartburgwatch.com/2015/05/25/part-1-jordan-root-is-a-confessed-internet-child-sex-abuser-should-the-village-church-trust-him/

http://thewartburgwatch.com/2015/05/26/part-2-the-village-church-doesnt-discipline-the-internet-child-sex-abuser-but-disciplines-his-wife/

That is SO. FUCKED. UP.

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Looks like John has his eye on moving from attempting to do things locally since he it appears he has worn out his welcome.

He went to a village and it made him feel better.

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Village ministry is a tremendous help for a heavy and hurting heart.

Yes running away when you have pissed off all the people in your area will make one feel better. 

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Brother Nate, God seems to clearly be opening two major doors. To the West is Mongu, about a 9-10 hour drive. Even the Zambian SBC have pulled out of Mongu. 

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To my knowledge, there's never been a Biblical Baptist witness there in Mongu. 

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Just a few weeks ago, not knowing this, I traveled to Mongu to survey it with Bro. Boyd Sikakena, 

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There's an airstrip in Mongu brother

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The place to the East I'll be driving to in a few hours with Bro. Boyd, Luangwa, has about 15 villages, no Baptist witness, and there are people literally pleading with us "not to pass their village without stopping to preach the Gospel."

There are about 15 villages there, and the main one...has an airstrip brother. 

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Both Mongu and Luangwa could be reached in much less time by flying.

Give him a plane! He is sooooo bored with that Troupie he absolutely needed so he could drive out to villages! Will Daddy Shrader be able to produce a new plane so John can keep playing? 

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Interesting comment on John's appeal for snitches: 

"We warn our churches, and we warn our guys about this issue. If they try to circumvent us and contact our supporters in the States to try to obtain "support", they are terminated."

Not sure what that means, or how much insight that guy has into johns particular situation. Just thought it was interesting. 

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14 minutes ago, picklepizzas said:

Not sure what that means, or how much insight that guy has into johns particular situation.

 "They are terminated" sounds as though he pays to put a hit on them!

That is another IFB missionary couple in the area. Jack and Charlye Price. Basically they are saying that converts must never contact their FB friends to ask for money or help directly. It does make sense to protect these naive donors from being scammed, but that couple frequently show contempt for the people they are supposed to be converting.  

Their facebook is worth a hate read.  Charlye threw a fit because the "girls" made a mess in her kitchen, even though they cleaned it up.  She's also upset because she was bribing women to come to her prayer group and they have come to expect the goods.  No surprise.

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John has decided to complain about one of the local people who follow him on FB and writes positive comments. 

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Dearest Friends, may I please encourage you to exercise wisdom and discernment regarding our contacts here in Africa.

 

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For example, one individual in Kafue where we live clicks "like" and types "amen" and "praise God" on our posts, but also comments on how much they "love" the "lyrics" on a wicked vile rap page of a person that claims to be born again, yet calls themselves "Lord" and exalts immorality, drug use, and other vile perversions and filthy language on their rap fb page.

So a local tries to encourage John but dares to like a Christian rapper, so clearly he can't be trusted? 

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not everyone is what they present themselves to be.

This has become sadly very evident in the last few weeks especially.

 

I wonder if local people have contacted people in the states to complain about John and he is trying to make sure these people aren't believed. It seems like the sort of thing he would do. 

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John un-friended me something like a year (maybe two?) ago-- when he posted something about children being a blessing, I commented that it's more important to care for your children than it is just to HAVE them.

The last few times I've tried to access his page, I'd get a notice saying "This content isn't available at the moment." Is he seriously going around blocking people who left him negative comments OVER A YEAR ago??

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On 3/26/2017 at 4:23 PM, Palimpsest said:

Really, donors.  Why not skip the middleman of John and send directly to these other people?

With his latest direction to please contact him directly, I wonder if some of his supporters took this excellent post to heart?  If I were a supporter and saw the fine work some of these other groups are doing (compared to John), I might be tempted to donate directly to said groups. 

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6 hours ago, picklepizzas said:

Interesting comment on John's appeal for snitches: 

"We warn our churches, and we warn our guys about this issue. If they try to circumvent us and contact our supporters in the States to try to obtain "support", they are terminated."

Not sure what that means, or how much insight that guy has into johns particular situation. Just thought it was interesting. 

The commenter is saying that if any of their local converts  contact the sending churches/missionary organization directly to request funds, they get the boot. 

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Why is John even there to preach if the other guy has to say and do everything John does? Why not give him the sermon notes and let him do the preaching since John can't be bothered to learn any language but English. 

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Planted Seed (the Word of God), Pleading (from the Villages), Preaching, Pertinent Villages Names, and Praising God!

What does that even mean? 

And John gave out Bibles, but only in English when almost no one in the villages read or speak English. What exactly are they supposed to do with these Bibles since they can't read them. 

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20 minutes ago, formergothardite said:

Pertinent Villages Name

 

20 minutes ago, formergothardite said:

What does that even mean? 

Maybe the village names didn't start with "P", and so he could only add they were Pertinent.  :teasing-dunce:

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John Esther Shrader We HAVE a plane! I'm seeking to find help to: A) Find a place to house it, B) Get it airworthy, C) Get it licensed, and D) Get more training and experience flying, and E) Start using it for the Lord!

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I thought the plane was AWOL? Rea has the key? Plane rusted/ not sky worthy? Been stolen by the chickens?

Does this mean that John has another plane?

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5 hours ago, CTRLZero said:

 

Maybe the village names didn't start with "P", and so he could only add they were Pertinent.  :teasing-dunce:

Maybe he really meant "Penitent."   Now he can swoop in and lead them to the Lord---
 

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All of a sudden John is tagging his father in posts that have the photos of him(John), out, actually doing something.

See John.  See John preach.  See John preach to another preacher's congregation and try to make it look like it's his.

See John fail. 

Do you want to be like John?  I didn't think so.   

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Gobsmacked said:

I thought the plane was AWOL? Rea has the key? Plane rusted/ not sky worthy? Been stolen by the chickens?

Does this mean that John has another plane?

It is the original plane, John just changes the story so much I don't think he can keep up with his lies.

~The missionary who has the key is in America. Please stop asking about the plane.

~They were scammed by a dishonest missionary and the plane will never fly. Give John more money for a new plane.

~Zambia has changed their laws and John won't be able to fly unless people give him more money to get more training.

~The plane was sold to them by a wonderful missionary who was audited by the IRS, and then had his wife and mother die of cancer. John hasn't seen the plane yet. This one is his last story about the plane. 

How can these people forget all this lies and be willing to throw money at him again? 

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I'm loving the whole cryptic thing of 'Don't discuss me with other people and let me know if they contact you asking about me' ... I want to think there's an enormous tell-all being written by some very credible publication and they're doing deep research into charlatans like Shrader.

A girl can dream :my_biggrin::my_biggrin::my_biggrin:

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So let me get this straight.  John goes out into the bush with a ton of stuff piled on top of the Troupie.  He can't be bothered to learn the local language, so he preaches in English, while a bilingual person interprets his preaching, hopefully correctly or at least generally correct, while mimicking John's body language.   He distributes English-language Bibles to people who do not speak or read English. Sounds right. 

Let's hope that he brings sufficient food to feed his large self and his interpreter, and doesn't create food hardships for his hosts. 

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3 hours ago, formergothardite said:

It is the original plane, John just changes the story so much I don't think he can keep up with his lies.

~The missionary who has the key is in America. Please stop asking about the plane.

~They were scammed by a dishonest missionary and the plane will never fly. Give John more money for a new plane.

~Zambia has changed their laws and John won't be able to fly unless people give him more money to get more training.

~The plane was sold to them by a wonderful missionary who was audited by the IRS, and then had his wife and mother die of cancer. John hasn't seen the plane yet. This one is his last story about the plane. 

How can these people forget all this lies and be willing to throw money at him again? 

I'm not sure he actually accused the "other missionary" of scamming, only said that the plane was in worse shape than they had thought. Which really, anyone with half a brain would have been able to deduce when buying an entire plane for $15K. He was basically paying scrap prices, and that's what he got.

It doesn't surprise me that no one wants to give him more money for his "flying mission" after everything he's already squandered. Spent $15K on the plane, who knows how much more on lessons and flying time in the US, just to end up with a plane that won't fly (probably won't even start). And even if he could get it started, he couldn't fly it legally in Zambia and doesn't have enough training anyway. 

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12 hours ago, slickcat79 said:

It doesn't surprise me that no one wants to give him more money for his "flying mission" after everything he's already squandered. Spent $15K on the plane, who knows how much more on lessons and flying time in the US, just to end up with a plane that won't fly (probably won't even start). And even if he could get it started, he couldn't fly it legally in Zambia and doesn't have enough training anyway. 

Plus, he can drive there! 

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The thought of John Shrader flying in Zambia makes me ill. I'm 99% sure that the rules for flying haven't changed since 2014 when John first graced Zambia with his presence.

Mr GS has a work colleague in SA. Rules the same. 

John telling huge porkies again as usual.

 

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22 hours ago, slickcat79 said:

I'm not sure he actually accused the "other missionary" of scamming, only said that the plane was in worse shape than they had thought.

He never technically used the word scam, but he implied it by saying that the missionary who sold it to him was not honest about the condition of the plane. Of course, that was before he quickly spun around and turned that same missionary into a saint and admitted he hadn't even seen the plane yet. 

8 hours ago, Gobsmacked said:

The thought of John Shrader flying in Zambia makes me ill. I'm 99% sure that the rules for flying haven't changed since 2014 when John first graced Zambia with his presence.

When John first got the plane people here researched and it was obvious John would never be able to just go fly in Zambia. John is flat out lying by claiming that the only reason he can't fly is because the regulations changed. He would have never been able to fly even if he had bought a plane that would fly. 

 

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22 hours ago, Howl said:

He can't be bothered to learn the local language, so he preaches in English, while a bilingual person interprets his preaching, hopefully correctly or at least generally correct, while mimicking John's body language.  

Quoting myself here, because it occurred to me that the interpreter doesn't need to be precise; he just needs to scream, "YOU'RE ALL GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL!!!!!"

Biblical Baptist, my ass.  John should be preaching the New Testament message, filled with hope: "God loves you, Jesus died for you", but he just can't bring himself to do that, apparently.  Or understand that people can love God AND rap.

He'd rather terrify people and tell them that their deceased relatives weren't saved and they are slow roasting in a lake o' fire.  We've said it before and it just can't be said enough: this man is clueless -- about himself, his religion and humanity. 

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