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Tabitha Paine & Tim Robertson Engagement (includes sexual assault discussion)

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11 minutes ago, GreenTea said:

I just heard about Tabitha Paine's engagement to this Tim Robertson. Could somebody post a picture of them together? How do they know this guy? I'm assuming they are in the same church circles. People said Tabitha would never get married. Are they the same age?  

He's a good deal older than she is, IIRC. There's a picture of them together on Tabitha's FB page, which is linked here:

 

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44 minutes ago, ViolaSebastian said:

If it is this guy (which I suspect it is), it's also extremely disturbing that he's a security officer at Crown College, in addition to the Tabitha Paine situation. Surely, surely a college wouldn't hire a convicted rapist to protect its students. Right? Right...? :?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-robertson-8a973164

They'll punish you for having physical contact with a member of the opposite sex and tell female students they have to cover themselves to avoid "tempting" men, and then they hire sex offenders as security guards. Not an iota of surprise there.

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37 minutes ago, Howl said:

The basic LinkedIn info explains everything.  

Education: Crown College of the Bible, Pastoral Ministry

You're absolutely right--I just really don't want to believe that the person to whom a student would be reporting a rape would be a rapist himself. Awful. 

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49 minutes ago, ViolaSebastian said:

You're absolutely right--I just really don't want to believe that the person to whom a student would be reporting a rape would be a rapist himself. Awful. 

It's a horrifying thought and one the administration probably doesn't care about at all. After all, if you follow the rules, nothing bad will happen, right? :pb_rollseyes:

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5 hours ago, Purrl said:

As a registered  sex offender can he legally be around children? His own children? Does the pardon make any difference?

He's not currently listed on the official TN sex offender registry, which allows non violent offenders to stop registering after ten years. So, if this is really him, according to the state he's served his time.

5 hours ago, unspoken said:

Can someone explain what it means that he was pardoned? Does that mean his conviction was overturned or does it simply mean he completed his sentence/parole? 

A pardon is a government decision to allow a person who has been convicted of a crime to be free and absolved of that conviction, as if never convicted. I'm not a degreed law professional, but I think accepting a pardon includes an admission of guilt.

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How does one get a pardon for sex crime? You can't get them expunged in my state.

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24 minutes ago, snarkopolis said:

How does one get a pardon for sex crime? You can't get them expunged in my state.

Connections? A society and culture that condone rape?

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4 hours ago, Destiny said:

Please remember the rules and don't contact this person. Thanks!

 Also, he has a common name so it might not be the same person. I have an uncommon real name, and share a birth city and birth date with a porn star.

 

I agree about not contacting these people.

But I do truly believe it's him. I mean, unless the guy with his same name, same birthday, from the same location, also happens to be his doppleganger. I just can't believe in that many coincidences.

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Governors grant pardons. According to Wikipedia you apply and a Board will recommend you to the Governor. You have to have stayed out of trouble. It does not in any way indicate a wrongful conviction. The Gov. at the time was a democrat, doesn't look like a religious connection. Most likely Tim was able to show that he had been a productive member of society and that his sex offender status was preventing him from furthering his productive life.

 

Also, this engagement is totally repulsive. 

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7 hours ago, Dandruff said:

Are we really sure it's the same guy?  It sounds as though our sleuths have put the pieces together...so maybe I just don't want to believe it.  Why would a beautiful, seemingly intelligent woman from a fundie royalty family choose marriage under these circumstances?

If it's true, and the guy didn't disclose it, then I guess stuff is probably hitting the fan about now.

If it's true, and he did disclose it, then OMG don't these people care about their daughters at all omg.

I mean, I guess we aren't 100% sure. But they have the same name, the same date of birth and look exactly the same. So what are the odds of it not being the same person?

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I understand the rules. But, with all due respect to the mods, I hope somebody breaks the rule. A woman's safety is at stake here. That should carry some weight.

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2 hours ago, RosyDaisy said:

I understand the rules. But, with all due respect to the mods, I hope somebody breaks the rule. A woman's safety is at stake here. That should carry some weight.

It is my understanding that the rules are about contacting anyone presenting themselves as representatives of FreeJinger. If anyone feels called upon to do something about anything in their spare time and in their own name, without dragging FJ into it, it's a different matter.

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3 minutes ago, samurai_sarah said:

It is my understanding that the rules are about contacting anyone presenting themselves as representatives of FreeJinger. If anyone feels called upon to do something about anything in their spare time and in their own name, without dragging FJ into it, it's a different matter.

And I'd add without reporting back here to look for back pats.

Off site we are all free citizens with a conscience and free will.

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13 hours ago, Dandruff said:

Why would a beautiful, seemingly intelligent woman from a fundie royalty family choose marriage under these circumstances?

Sadly I wouldn't be surprised if it was no biggie to her; I mean, she worked for a family who did next to nothing while their son systematically molested their little girls, and her own dad helped to cover up Gothard's rape scandal. Keeping company like this, she's probably thinking "who HASN'T raped a person or two, right?"

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How pardons work (and how much is truly "expunged") really varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.  Where I work, a pardon doesn't automatically remove you from the sex offender registry.  If it's a traffic offence, it also stays permanently on your traffic record.  

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Yes, in this context, the age difference is a bit much.  I count several married couples as friends, whose age difference is about 10 years, but in both instances, the marriages happened a bit later in life, and not in one of these SAHD situations.  I'm a bit creeped out for several reasons.  

1.  These marriages are considered to be for life, no matter what.

2. Because she has zip for life experience, she has no ability to determine if her husband is normal or not, in all the ways a husband is or isn't.  If he's awful, she'll just pray more and blame herself, because Jesus. 

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20 hours ago, helenprev said:

On facebook Tim refers to Tabitha as an angel a few times. For some reason I find that quite creepy and it puts my hackles up. I wouldn't want to be somebody's 'angel'. I'd rather be their flawed equal partner.

Ah yes, putting women on pedestals. Just another form of caging. "Oh, a beautiful young woman like you shouldn't have to work! You're far too intelligent to answer to a boss all day long. I'll look after you." My ex used to say that, meaning he didn't like the fact I had my own money and didn't need to rely on him. We never did get around to living together, thank Christ!

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On 1/10/2017 at 6:30 AM, Kylolo said:

Not now, he lives in TN. Seems to have lived in Myrtle Beach then though, plus some time in VA. 

His mother lives in Roanoke, VA

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22 hours ago, justmy2cents said:

He probably said he was drunk at the time, and now that he doesn't drink there's no danger of him repeating that behavior.

This is all sickening.  I have a feeling the Paines along with Tabitha knew about this.  He must have known that if he didn't confess and they found out later they would never trust him.  This way he repents and is forgiven.

True, when I looked at his fb page, he has posted several memes about how alcohol is bad. Is this his way of repenting?

21 hours ago, ClaraOswin said:

Maybe Pickles will catch wind of this and post it on Facebook. Sometimes some of the tabloid sites pull things from her page. I feel bad for Tabitha. But this kind of thing should be exposed so more people in the general public will research these nutjobs and see how messed up their beliefs are.

I've been banned from her page. Who wants to give her the tip?

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Done

for all the good it'll do for poor Tabitha. I'm quite sure they were all fully aware.

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Maybe Pickles will catch wind of this and post it on Facebook. Sometimes some of the tabloid sites pull things from her page. I feel bad for Tabitha. But this kind of thing should be exposed so more people in the general public will research these nutjobs and see how messed up their beliefs are.


Why not just mail it to In Touch? Even if she knows perhaps having it made public would be enough for her to get out now.
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27 minutes ago, VaSportsMom said:

 


Why not just mail it to In Touch? Even if she knows perhaps having it made public would be enough for her to get out now.

 

If she does know and is still making a decision to marry this person then public humiliation would just be mean. I do hope she knows or someone is somehow able to bring it to her attention in a way that, for her sake, doesn't get it splashed all over the headlines.

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39 minutes ago, apiscue said:

tabitha paine is not that famous!!!!!

Obviously. But you don't think one supermarket tabloid is going to jump at "Duggar nanny married off to rapist -- what this means for the family" ?

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22 minutes ago, Pianokeeper said:

Obviously. But you don't think one supermarket tabloid is going to jump at "Duggar nanny married off to rapist -- what this means for the family" ?

This feels inappropriate. These are actual people we're talking about. He obviously did something wrong, but we really have no idea what happened. 

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