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Lori Alexander 13: Transformed and Still Judgey

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Fascinated

This is one of my favourite threads. I think it's because of the brilliant comments and how you guys get to the nuts and bolts of the daily gift that is Lori.  However, having just read her latest doodle I have to say my enthusiasm is waning.  I mean, seriously, does this woman need new material or what? I mean:

I am godly

I am older

I am older and godly

I am called by god to tell younger women what to think/how to behave/how to treat their husbands/how to dress/to never work outside the home/to read my blog/ how to interpret the word of god

It isn't me saying this, it is god

This is my calling and I will do it all day, every day

There is no love on earth like that of a child for his/her mother (funny, that one, as I think parents love their children way more, but, hey, what do I know as an older ungodly woman?)

It is unbelievably repetitive.  I know, I know.  Duh. 

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church_of_dog
1 hour ago, polecat said:

But none of those is a semi-hyphen. ;) Unless she was just making up new words willy-nilly.

Given the context, she might have meant a semicolon (something entirely different), but even so, there is indeed a time and a place for a semicolon. 

 

I'm pretty sure there isn't such a thing as a semi-hyphen (unless as mentioned it means an n-dash instead of an m-dash, or perhaps it means a hyphen (short) as opposed to a dash (long)?).  My first thought, if it wasn't a prank, would be that the person meant 'semi-colon' -- simply because it's the only piece of punctuation that starts with 'semi-' (I think).  I will be fascinated if it turns out there is a real thing called a semi-hyphen!

 

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Red Hair, Black Dress

I'm just about on my last nerve with Lori's everlasting harping on the fact that mothers must be home with their children or the children will become suicidal slut drug addicts 100% on anti depressants.  Setting aside the issue of working moms.  What about children literally  without mothers?

Growing up I knew lots of people without mothers being raised by -- single fathers (Mom died or left) widowed grandmothers or widowed grandfathers  (no dad, mom died or left), unmarried aunt (both parents dead), unmarried uncle (raising 4 after parents killed in a wreck), and even one girl raised by a much older single sister (elderly parents who died).

Were all these people doomed and damned because there was no mother at home? That's what she's saying.

I can assure you that the people who raised the children I knew all had jobs in order to actually, you know, afford to raise the child/children and all of the ones I knew turned out just fine.

Lori always says she doesn't in "what ifs" and that she's only preaching the word of God.  So in Lori's godly mentoring the word of God says that all children not raised by SAHMs are doomed.  

This is not any God that I know,  

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older than allosaurs
37 minutes ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

I'm just about on my last nerve with Lori's everlasting harping on the fact that mothers must be home with their children or the children will become suicidal slut drug addicts 100% on anti depressants.  Setting aside the issue of working moms.  What about children literally  without mothers?

Growing up I knew lots of people without mothers being raised by -- single fathers (Mom died or left) widowed grandmothers or widowed grandfathers  (no dad, mom died or left), unmarried aunt (both parents dead), unmarried uncle (raising 4 after parents killed in a wreck), and even one girl raised by a much older single sister (elderly parents who died).

Were all these people doomed and damned because there was no mother at home? That's what she's saying.

 

If I remember correctly, this has come up a time or two in blog questions, and she said that God takes note of these special situations and makes it OK. So it's not actually that children need their mothers at home. It's that we are wicked when we willfully disobey Lori.

I've been reading some nineteenth-century American history lately and am struck yet again by how few people seemed to have made it through childhood with their families intact. Mothers died in childbirth, fathers went to war, or headed west and vanished.  Siblings died right and left. It's also impressive to note how many parents mirrored Lori's situation, home with the kids, but too ill to care for them. Long, lingering illnesses were common. Think of the trouble that drug-resistant bacteria are causing now. Think of that as the norm for every case of strep, bacterial pneumonia, etc. Few households in the good old days could meet her standards.

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Koala

Yeah, I only had a couple of friends with sahm's growing up.  Maybe 3.  

In my close circle of childhood friends:

1) Hairdresser, married, 2 daughters.

2) Sahm with 4 children

3) Teacher,  married, no children.

4) Nurse, married, 2 children.

5) Accountant, married, twins.

They are all just regular people living regular lives.

My mom worked, but I've been home for over 15 years and have no intention of going to work in the next 5 years when my kids are grown.

My adult friends (people I've met because our kids are friends), are almost all sahms.  You know what else?  Lots of them have college degrees, and NONE of them have ever received any flack from working moms about staying at home.  None of them have ever been told they were wasting their college education.....we've actually discussed this, and for all of us, the people we've met have been extremely supportive...kind of like we're supportive of working moms.  Because feminism.  That's right, feminism allows us all to make choices about what is best for our families.  It allows my niece to have a career, a husband, and no children.  It allows me to have a husband, children, and no career.  It allows both of us to be supportive of each other.  It allows all of us to function and lead happy, productive lives without the input of The Godly Mentor or Ken- Rider of the Horse of TRUTH!

 

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SweetFellowshipper
On 12/27/2016 at 4:13 PM, usmcmom said:

"You keep a tidy home; not spotless, but clean."

Wow!  The passive aggressive jabs just don't stop with these two. 

 

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My husband writes me really nice love letters. You know what they don't include? "Organic produce" references.

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Koala

Exactly two weeks ago, Lori dedicated an entire post to calling out a reader who wondered "how come" Lori doesn't scold men.  <---The "how come" bit was Lori, not the reader.

In that post, Lori made the following comment:

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I take the Bible literally, Pamkitten.

Well, she takes it literally except for when she doesn't.

Today:

That's right...when she's trying to explain why the Bible really doesn't give a cause for divorce (except it does), she says:

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These verses shouldn't be taken literally...

So I guess you should rely on Lori (thinker of big thoughts) to tell you when to take a verse literally, and when to twist it to mean what you want it to mean.  Kind of like going to Ken (rider of The Horse of TRUTH!) to find out when Jesus was wrong.

Side note- Anyone else find it odd that the blog posts are no longer enough for Lori?  Now she needs blogs posts, notebook doodles, and videos. 

Hmmm, maybe she should dedicate more time to keeping her home.  After all, Ken said it was tidy, but not spotless.

What's that verse that Lori's always hurling at her readers?

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Whatever you do, do your work heartily, as for the Lord rather than for men

Go for spotless, Lori!

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mirele
5 hours ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

I'm just about on my last nerve with Lori's everlasting harping on the fact that mothers must be home with their children or the children will become suicidal slut drug addicts 100% on anti depressants.  Setting aside the issue of working moms.  What about children literally  without mothers?

My mother was a stay-at-home paranoid schizophrenic mom. We kids ended up taking care of ourselves because otherwise we wouldn't have gotten fed or had clean laundry. And this was back in the 1970s. And despite having a SAHM, I still ended up on antidepressants. But I also have an education and a well-paying job, and I'm not a judgmental whiner like Lori. *scowls* Oh yeah, not married and childless, too. I'd love to hear Lori rant about how someone like me is a huge sinner because I failed Lori's idea of a real woman. *rolls eyes*

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slickcat79
On 12/28/2016 at 9:49 AM, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

Seriously -- do fundies intend on purpose to raise a generation of badly educated children who will one day be badly educated adults in charge of running things?

Pretty much. Badly educated children are less likely to question the things that they're spoon-fed. Also, they're poorly set up for life outside whatever path their parents have mapped for them, so when they fail it's easier to prod them back into the fold. 

Luckily most of them have not succeeded in running anything more complicated than a used car lot.

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Koala

Wonder of wonders, The Godly Mentor (who doesn't teach men) is on Facebook teaching a man.

I am blocking out his last name:

James:

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 Should a wife use Matthew 18 to deal with her husband's pornography problem?

Lori:

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Sorry James, I don't teach men.

JUST KIDDING!  Lori didn't say that.  She totally teaches men.

Lori:

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No, she should use 1 Peter 3:1-6.

James:

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 1 Peter 3 seems to be talking about a husband who may not be a believer. Matthew 18: seems to be talking about a brother or maybe a husband who is a believer that is caught in a sin. Does there ever come a time when the wife should take a witness and if necessary take the matter before the church to help her husband overcome a sin like pornography?

Lori:

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It says, "if any obey not the word" so it seems it means disobedient to the Word whether they are a believer or not. I don't see how the wife practicing Matt. 18 can ever help a marriage and husband overcome his sin. It would just make him angry that she "went behind his back" and told others his sin.

Lori:

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 There is nothing so powerful to convict and change a husband than living with a godly, submissive wife, from all that I have seen.

Lori 2 weeks ago:

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 I am not supposed to teach men anything

Well, you know...do as she says, not as she does.

Of course Earl is all over the comments too.

Earl:

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 I would bet those same women would say it wasnt a sin to withhold sexual intimacy from their husbands.

Lori's favorite song!  "It's the wife's fault".

Lori:

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 Most likely since it's a lot easier to point our finger at others than at ourselves.

 

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SweetFellowshipper

Holy shit, I just noticed the "at great prices" thing in that weird ass love letter. Sounds like a grocery store ad.

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quiversR4hunting
7 hours ago, SweetFellowshipper said:

My husband writes me really nice love letters. You know what they don't include? "Organic produce" references.

Well, then he isn't doing it right! Just ask the godly mentor (who doesn't teach men, besides when she does)!

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Imrlgoddess

No no no y'all. She was totally teaching the wife THROUGH the husband or in this case: guy asking the question. See it's going to be in print so he's going to rush over to this little lady & show her The Word of Lori and all will be fine. She'll *gently* encourage her hubby to read the verse. Then she'll be vacuuming in heels with the new bottle of lube on the nightstand in no time!  

Ugh, I needed some Lori snark. I just watched a video by the Botkin sisters and naturally the very first family in the damn thing is from my state. That's the first time I've gone down their particular rabbit hole. I'm good for a while. Back to my 9 century saga where the heroine is leaving sacrifices to Freya. :my_dodgy:

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Red Hair, Black Dress

I've copied this rader's comment (it's long )from Lori's most recent doodle about viewing porn isn't adultery.xxx Tought it needed saving before Lori's delete finger got itchy.

Axxxxxx Bxxxxxxxx " I am a daughter of a former evangelical pastor and pastors wife. I have some real issues with some of the things you post. I started following you, because I do think that you have good intentions, however your delivery is not choice and you are very misguided on some things. I am a 26 year old woman, and I am sure in the classification of older women setting an example for me. You aren't...you are doing the exact opposite that you are hoping to achieve. My father is a porn and sex addict. My mother was a stay at home mom, my entire life. Wives are just supposed to sit by and smile, never question, always be gentle, and allow the husband to do what he pleases? To let him answer to God and not his wife or family? At what point do you draw a line? When he gives his wife an STD? When he decides to molest his kids? When he starts physically and verbally abusing? What I've put together from you is that divorce is not an option? No, no, you are so wrong. God did not intend for a woman to be walked all over and have no voice whatsoever. Men are to love their wife as Christ loves the church. Women are supposed to never have a harsh word? No, no, you are wrong. What about when Christ walked into the temple, turned over tables after he made the whip he used in the temple? You have offended me and many other women, reopening wounds of women and denying them the ability to heal. I was raised in a home where my mother showed me the ropes of being a loving and serving wife. A marriage goes both ways. I do my very best to alleviate my partner of his stress and he does the same for me. It is not meant for women to carry the marriage, while the husband is out screwing everything in sight. You have a distorted view on a lot of things and I pray that you are able to consider another woman's perspective and thoughts, and that your interpretation of scripture(s) is not entirely accurate; to quit shooting down women that have different thoughts than your own...thoughts which just might be more scripturally accurate than your own understanding. I am personally choosing to no longer follow you. My mother and I have spiritual rights and you have trampled on anything just. God gives grace and mercy, but sin comes with consequences. You practically excuse men's lust and behavior, but we are supposed to sit down and shut up, never question a thing, because God "made them leader of the house." What about if the man won't step up as the leader? What then? I am so hurt from some of the things you have said, I have run some of this by my Godly mother, who is also a certified CHRISTIAN counselor and she is absolutely mortified at some of the things you are preaching....and remember I come from an evangelical background. A pastor's kid, for many years. Learned so much from my parents marriage or lack thereof. Please reconsider and evaluate some of the things you choose to post on here. God bless you and and all the other women on here. I hope some of you ladies are able to find some solace in some of the things that I have expressed. Unless women personally go through what many of you silently sit back and struggle with, they will never get it. I get it and I get you. I get your hurts and pain. I get the betrayal you feel and rightfully so. I get it and my heart hurts for you. I hope you find peace and comfort. Don't be afraid to speak. You have a voice too. God did not create women to be less than a man, he created us to be counterparts. - From a 26 year old daughter of a broken pastor's home. The daughter of a mother who has held onto her cheating and abusive husband. My mom is far from perfect, but does not justify the things you have stated, whatsoever. From the daughter of a miserable family. Shame on you for shunning women and excusing a man's behavior. The lack of accountability is sick. In some marriages trying harder does not engender a reciprocal response. It has the opposite effect.It feeds a fantasy that a woman's sole purpose is to serve her husband, make him happy and meet his every need. It feeds entitlement and deception that the world is all about him! Some people are not "won over" which is why Matthew instructs us what to do when they are not won over."    

 

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Koala

 

4 minutes ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

I've copied this rader's comment (it's long )from Lori's most recent doodle about viewing porn isn't adultery.xxx Tought it needed saving before Lori's delete finger got itchy.

I am glad you copied it, because it has now been deleted.  I was actually just making a post about it when you replied.  I think deleting this comment is such a shining example of who Lori Alexander really is.

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AlwaysDiscerning

Yes, how great you saved that. I saw it on my phone and went to boot up laptop to paste it into here easier...and in that 20 minutes it took to do that it was gone. 

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Koala

Lori isn't a teacher, she's a bully.  She doesn't give a damn about what that young woman or her mother.  She's just infuriated that she'd have the gall to question the all controlling Godly Mentor.  

 

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It's a real shame that you "the transformed wife" have to delete comments out of your own self-righteousness.   Is that what happens when you don't have a come back?  You can't just say wow, you are right and I appreciate your thoughts?  There was nothing unbiblical that was posted last night.  shame.  On.  You.

^^A reader has called her out for deleting the comment. This comment will probably disappear pretty quickly as well.

 

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Imrlgoddess

That book and her beloved viral post got her a lot of attention. She may well be losing her grip! 

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Fascinated

It seems like she's getting a lot of blowback recently. When conservative Christian women are unfollowing you, you're probably doing it wrong. Looks good on her. 

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Loveday

She must have just stumbled out of bed to do all this deleting--that twitchy finger of hers must have woken her up-- because that post was still there not twenty minutes ago, and it's only  6:42 am out there in La-La-Lori-Land. I'm so glad it's been saved forever here. :twisted: 

6 minutes ago, usmcmom said:

^^A reader has called her out for deleting the comment. This comment will probably disappear pretty quickly as well.

 

Lori's answers:

"I answered them until I figured out they were trolls and I ban and delete trolls. Candee Cane with a man's picture? Come on!"

Followed by this grade-school gem:

"Besides it's my Facebook page so I can do whatever I want with it as you can with yours."

In other words, "Neener Neener."

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AlwaysDiscerning

East coast people have an advantage of seeing things that happen overnight before she gets up to start deleting. 

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Koala

Lori (who says it's unfeminine to argue and you should let others have the last word):

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 I answered them until I figured out they were trolls and I ban and delete trolls. Candee Cane with a man's picture? Come on!

Besides it's my Facebook page so I can do whatever I want with it as you can with yours!

1) Lori has openly solicited the real names of Amazon reviewers in order to contact them.  It is no small wonder that people don't want her to have their real names.
 

2)  The woman told a very personal story about her family, and she may have used a fake name to protect their identity.  Lori may have no respect for her family's privacy, but not everyone is so careless.  

3) Her response sounds like something a spoiled, snotty child would write.

The response:

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 "Trolls" with accurate information. Once again you are wrong. Swallow you pride. I know that person that posted and they have that fb account to keep their identity private. I know her son, who helped her pick out her display picture. He picked you John Madden out of his affinity for football. The woman had some very sound and accurate thoughts, but you have chosen to disregard them all. I certainly hope that she comes back and reports them. Again, she is not a troll. Just someone trying who prefers to keep a lot of their life private. I think we could all benefit from keeping a lot of things off of social media, don't you? I'm sure you have blocked them though, because you know better, right? Including knowing their motives, EVEN THOUGH what the person stated was very true love, solid and sound. You can handle that someone may have some knowledge that you don't. You choose to be closed off to learning, yourself. Cause you think you know everything!!!! No one else could know something that you don't. You would gain so much more wisdom if you would humble yourself and LISTEN to someone other than yourself

Lori will probably delete the whole exchange.  

I am not a Christian, but I will say this.  Lori has probably done more damage to the Christian faith than she could ever imagine.  She's cold, callous, and controlling.  She doesn't care the slightest about what her readers have been through, and she would never even entertain the idea that they might know better than her.

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Loveday
12 minutes ago, Koala said:

Lori (who says it's unfeminine to argue and you should let others have the last word):

1) Lori has openly solicited the real names of Amazon reviewers in order to contact them.  It is no small wonder that people don't want her to have their real names.
 

2)  The woman told a very personal story about her family, and she may have used a fake name to protect their identity.  Lori may have no respect for her family's privacy, but not everyone is so careless.  

3) Her response sounds like something a spoiled, snotty child would write.

The response:

Lori will probably delete the whole exchange.  

I am not a Christian, but I will say this.  Lori has probably done more damage to the Christian faith than she could ever imagine.  She's cold, callous, and controlling.  She doesn't care the slightest about what her readers have been through, and she would never even entertain the idea that they might know better than her.

That last comment is already gone. I'm surprised the rest of the exchange is still up there, but then it does give Lori the last word that way. :my_dodgy:

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usmcmom

I cannot see any of the comments mentioned above.  Is she deleting them as soon as they come in or am I doing something wrong??  

SOMEBODY HELP ME!!!

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