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47 minutes ago, usedbicycle said:

I posted a comment along the lines of "I'm curious to know if your children receive an allowance or get a more formal salary for working for the family business? Also, how do you deal with household expenses with adult children living at home?"

Steve didn't post the comment but emailed me back. (Hope he doesn't read here or I've been outed!) Basically the kidults don't get an allowance and do work for their parents. But still no idea on who pays for groceries and does Sarah get to keep all her Moody money.

 

The point of allowances in that family would be ?? It's not like they can do anything fun or spend money with their friends before working age hits...

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1 hour ago, usedbicycle said:

I posted a comment along the lines of "I'm curious to know if your children receive an allowance or get a more formal salary for working for the family business? Also, how do you deal with household expenses with adult children living at home?"

Steve didn't post the comment but emailed me back. (Hope he doesn't read here or I've been outed!) Basically the kidults don't get an allowance and do work for their parents. But still no idea on who pays for groceries and does Sarah get to keep all her Moody money.

 

Basically, he says if you wanna' know what we used to do with our children when they were actually children and not adults, buy our books.

I am still trying to figure out what the fuck he was trying to say in today's word salad. I think the man is off his rocker and doesn't even realize that he is just about the biggest twat on the planet.

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WTF, Steve? No, I don't think anyone has wondered about the differenece between being debt free and content in Christ is because those are plainly different things? What are you smoking? 

Or is this some sort of belabored metaphor about sin being debt or thinking your debt-free if you are saved or something? I am super confused, Steve, how this is actually supposed to help someone be debt-free. 

@usedbicycle I would be tempted to email back, no this did not answer my question at all. Do you pay them or not?

 

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He speaks about them like they're 5, not 35 and actually making a monetary contribution to the family resources like poor Sarah.

What an asshole.

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13 minutes ago, Foudeb said:

He speaks about them like they're 5, not 35 and actually making a monetary contribution to the family resources like poor Sarah.

What an asshole.

Of course he speaks about them like they are 5. In his mind his kids are still young he dosen't want them to grow up. 

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5 hours ago, pikapika said:

Reading "County Fair Reports" I noticed at their face painting and balloon twisting are not bad, they could easily do both of those things at children's birthday parties and make some money for themselves, sadly that will likely never happen but if they ever need to survive hopefully they keep it in mind, a good face painter charges at least $100 an hour!

Would Goofy and Scary have a criteria like Prissy does for his wedding shoots?  Like bible time has to be incorporated in the festivities, animal crackers instead of cake, and no cartoon characters for  a theme.

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3 hours ago, anjulibai said:

WTF, Steve? No, I don't think anyone has wondered about the differenece between being debt free and content in Christ is because those are plainly different things? What are you smoking? 

Or is this some sort of belabored metaphor about sin being debt or thinking your debt-free if you are saved or something? I am super confused, Steve, how this is actually supposed to help someone be debt-free. 

@usedbicycle I would be tempted to email back, no this did not answer my question at all. Do you pay them or not?

 

Maybe being debt free helps with feeling content in Christ? IDK. Whatever he meant, he phrased it very weirdly.

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I'm curious about him saying they don't give an allowance because they don't want their children to feel entitled to it. To an extent I can appreciate this argument (assuming we're talking about actual children and not the kidults he actually has), but then I'm not sure what the alternative is? We never got an allowance growing up (I think my parents tried it for a while and kept forgetting to dole it out), but whenever one of us needed money for something my parents would give it to us (within reason), which I'm not sure avoids a sense of entitlement, either. It did, however, teach us some fantastic arguing skills, because if Mum and Dad said 'No' we then had to explain why, really, that money was a worthy expense. My youngest sister actually created an entire slideshow when she started at university to try and persuade my parents to give her an allowance, with her list of valuable expenses including beer and visiting our sister an hour away. My parents were amused but I'm not sure it swayed them :pb_lol:

The only other option I can think of would be to pay children for chores, but I think that can be argued to create a sense of entitlement as well, as it teaches children that the reason for doing chores isn't to contribute to the running of the household or because living in a manky bedroom is unpleasant, but because of the monetary reward.

Normal parents probably choose one or a blend of these three (allowance, as-needed, chore-based) because it helps children develop independence and money-management skills. As a five-year-old, for instance, your parents buy all your clothes and you don't need money for it, but as a fifteen-year-old chances are good you're buying your own clothes and defining your own style. From the sounds of it, the Maxwell kids miss out on both the opportunity to discover what they like and whom they are, and to learn how to spend and save money of their own.

And I think that's one of the biggest ironies of Steve's debt-free posts; he goes on and on about the importance of living debt-free, a form of money management, and yet he never teaches his children financial prudence because they never get the chance to spend mony themselves.

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We should ask him why he's allowing his grown-up kidults to live at home rent-free - isn't that fostering a sense of entitlement in them???

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4 hours ago, Foudeb said:

We should ask him why he's allowing his grown-up kidults to live at home rent-free - isn't that fostering a sense of entitlement in them???

Exactly! That's what I really wanted an answer to. Do the adults just eat mom and dad's food, use their cars and their house like teenagers? Anyone with a brain can see that Stevie's whole setup is about control, not so-called "work ethic". Very JB Duggar in a sense.

 

 

 

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Debt-free is a matter of learning certain techniques and disciplines–being willing to limit oneself because of a commitment. However, that person can still be raging with discontent and be miserable. He could choose to live out his unmet desires through other means. He might still practice poor financial management by spending everything he has to fulfill his lusts.

It sounds like he's talking about an Ashley Madison account :my_biggrin:

 

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14 hours ago, usedbicycle said:

It sounds like he's talking about an Ashley Madison account :my_biggrin:

Steve lives in perpetual terror of his own desires, which must be uncharacteristically interesting. Whatever it is that he wants from women is so utterly overpowering, the mere presence of females other than Teri pose a potentially crippling threat to his sanity.

Between insisting that his wife keep all computer passwords private to keep him from having any access to porn, pitching a fit at his former job because his fidelity was threatened when he was forced to work with a female on a project, and frequently drawing "lust" into the most inappropriate of comments, it would seem that at least 98% of Steve's operational energy is devoted to dodging sexual impulses.

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Anybody think he actually did cheat?  Maybe not even intercourse.  Maybe a kiss or almost kiss?  HIs existence seems to be driven by guilt, so I can't help but wonder.

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1 minute ago, VooDooChild said:

Anybody think he actually did cheat?  Maybe not even intercourse.  Maybe a kiss or almost kiss?  HIs existence seems to be driven by guilt, so I can't help but wonder.

I don't think he cheated.  I have to imagine he was not easy to work with. 

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Somehow I get the feeling his problem wasn't being attracted to female co-workers, but rather being outshone by them.

Our Stevie doesn't take well to not being treated as a super special snowflake. (See also how he had to start his own church as he couldn't possibly tolerate a pastor other than himself).

Luckily for him, he understood this early in life and took to spawning his own cult members!

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23 minutes ago, Foudeb said:

Somehow I get the feeling his problem wasn't being attracted to female co-workers, but rather being outshone by them.

Our Stevie doesn't take well to not being treated as a super special snowflake. (See also how he had to start his own church as he couldn't possibly tolerate a pastor other than himself).

Luckily for him, he understood this early in life and took to spawning his own cult members!

I think Steve has a huge ego. So when someone espically a woman is higher up on him he gets upset. 

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2 hours ago, Foudeb said:

Somehow I get the feeling his problem wasn't being attracted to female co-workers, but rather being outshone by them.

Our Stevie doesn't take well to not being treated as a super special snowflake. (See also how he had to start his own church as he couldn't possibly tolerate a pastor other than himself).

Luckily for him, he understood this early in life and took to spawning his own cult members!

I think this is more the issue; he doesn't like that a woman might outdo him or be over him.  More than that, he doesn't like the idea of women being in the workplace at all.  

Over the years I have had several coworkers who had very traditional views of women's roles and had a lot of trouble interacting with women in the workplace.    Because they felt that you shouldn't be there and they made it obvious.  I wonder if Steveovah exhibited the same thing and maybe that caused some difficulties when he finally did that to the wrong person such as a boss or coworker / customer who made an issue of it.

Possible that it's guilt over cheating though I doubt that, more likely something that may have occurred in his early life.  I do think, however, that he might feel guilt over the slightest bit of attraction though, perhaps as compensation of some sort.     IDK but his attitudes about not being with other women other than your wife makes me inclined to think that he has made even the slightest feeling of attraction as something that is highly taboo.    Given the highly structured, controlled lives that he lives and has made his family live, the Groundhog Dog sameness, allowing for no spontaneity or joy,  makes me think that anything that is not tightly controlled, even in the slightest, is falling short and something to be feel guilty about.    

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2 hours ago, nokidsmom said:

Given the highly structured, controlled lives that he lives and has made his family live, the Groundhog Dog sameness, allowing for no spontaneity or joy,  makes me think that anything that is not tightly controlled, even in the slightest, is falling short and something to be feel guilty about.    

Sheesh, let the bastard feel guilty about breathing.  That should cover the whole shebang.

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29 minutes ago, Granwych said:

Sheesh, let the bastard feel guilty about breathing.  That should cover the whole shebang.

You know, as I wrote my previous post, it occurred to me that Steveovah would have to feel guilty over just about....anything.   Scary part is that he probably does.  In reading some of his Dad's Corners, he comes across as someone who went down the rabbit hole of overanalyzing everything to death resulting in a lot of "bad" things to fear and feel guilty about.   Dude has totally twisted himself into knots and is making his family do it too.

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Steve can't tell his cult members that women are second class citizens who must remain under his or one of his godly son's protection at all times if he goes to work every day and works with women. He can't even pretend if a woman happens to be a boss or someone he has to interact with and/or god forbid, as a question of! If she happened to have an answer, that would mean a woman knew more than him and he cannot have that.

The only choice the man had in order to keep his cult running without question, was to remove himself and the cult members from any and all possible outside influences or even interaction.

Just today, I sat in the office of my boss's boss. My boss is a woman, I am a woman, but her boss is a man. I sat in his office to go over some issues we've been having that directly pertain to my job. He wanted my opinion on possible solutions. Because, you know, I am the one who does the job and is affected by what is being proposed. Can any of you imagine Steve asking a woman's opinion on anything? Sitting in an office with a woman? Even though the door was open and people came and went several times, we were essentially in his little office 'alone'. Can you imagine Steve's head exploding if anyone even suggested he speak with a woman and use her input?

Steve wasn't capable of functioning in the real world so he had no choice but to quit and create the dog & pony show. It was the only way he could support his growing cult.

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2 minutes ago, fundiefan said:

Steve can't tell his cult members that women are second class citizens who must remain under his or one of his godly son's protection at all times if he goes to work every day and works with women. He can't even pretend if a woman happens to be a boss or someone he has to interact with and/or god forbid, as a question of! If she happened to have an answer, that would mean a woman knew more than him and he cannot have that.

The only choice the man had in order to keep his cult running without question, was to remove himself and the cult members from any and all possible outside influences or even interaction.

Just today, I sat in the office of my boss's boss. My boss is a woman, I am a woman, but her boss is a man. I sat in his office to go over some issues we've been having that directly pertain to my job. He wanted my opinion on possible solutions. Because, you know, I am the one who does the job and is affected by what is being proposed. Can any of you imagine Steve asking a woman's opinion on anything? Sitting in an office with a woman? Even though the door was open and people came and went several times, we were essentially in his little office 'alone'. Can you imagine Steve's head exploding if anyone even suggested he speak with a woman and use her input?

Steve wasn't capable of functioning in the real world so he had no choice but to quit and create the dog & pony show. It was the only way he could support his growing cult.

Agreed.  Steve strikes me as someone who was more fully functioning earlier in his life, then descended for whatever reason(s) into his particular rabbit hole.  As he went further down, he became someone who really couldn't function in normal society so found his "niche" by creating his own cult, unfortunately it was his immediate family.    Given how small his world is, he really must have done a number on himself.    The fact that he's doing this "family church" thing says it all.  

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Not to get OT but carrying this over from the last Maxhell thread

@catlady I just sent you a PM

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<snip> Did tomato ketchup with pinot grigio, <snip

please tell me you're willing to share this recipe!  I've made ketchup for a few years now, and my last batch wasn't the best, so I've been looking around for a new recipe.

the Autocanners look interesting.  if you get one, can you let us know how you like it?  I have the 16-qt waterbath and a pressure canner about the same size.

Back to regularly scheduled programing…….though canning recipes are much more FUN!

 

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23 hours ago, nokidsmom said:

 

Possible that it's guilt over cheating though I doubt that, more likely something that may have occurred in his early life.  I do think, however, that he might feel guilt over the slightest bit of attraction though, perhaps as compensation of some sort.     IDK but his attitudes about not being with other women other than your wife makes me inclined to think that he has made even the slightest feeling of attraction as something that is highly taboo.    Given the highly structured, controlled lives that he lives and has made his family live, the Groundhog Dog sameness, allowing for no spontaneity or joy,  makes me think that anything that is not tightly controlled, even in the slightest, is falling short and something to be feel guilty about.    

I've gotten the impression that he is uncomfortable with his own sexuality. Having even a twinge of sexual awareness that isn't about Teri seems to distress him. I figure guilt may be part of that, but I think a lot of it is fear (of turning into his father? of becoming selfish? of not being a good husband?).

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Putting the words "Steve Maxwell" and "his own sexuality" in a sentence just squicks me out.  Ugh, ugh, and more ugh.  I guess he proved it to the world, though,  with all 8 of his arrows.

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New post up.  They had their family photo shoot last Sun.  Poor bragged about how wonderful autumn is.  Nobody says autumn anymore Poor, its fucking fall.  I hate fall Cuz it means winter is coming.  And the kids played in the leaves.  Also an Ellie sighting.  Hadn't seen Ellie so long U thought Coward declared her an idol and made Poor get rid of her.  Doesn't Goofy own a shirt that isn't plaid?  Guess it's better than Amish's frumpers.

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