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12 minutes ago, Nashville92 said:

I can't imagine living in fear for my child's safety

Wait what? Parents worry about their children's safety everyday, in every country in the world. I worried/worry about my children/grandchildren being kidnapped, being molested by the pedophile down the street, getting caught in the crossfire of two gangs, being shot in school, at a sporting event, concert etc. I worry about my kids being killed by someone texting and driving. CA does not corner the market on danger.

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Just now, MargaretElliott said:

 

Jill: Doors help with security and bugs not getting in. People have to knock before seeing who's in the house... This seems very specific. Maybe they had a negative experience with someone entering their home without their permission, and that's what spooked Jill. Who knows. It's possible.

 

That is pretty specific. Maybe someone came in without their permission and interacted with Israel? Even if it wasn't in a negative way, knowing someone walked into your home and played with your kid without your permission is FREAKY.

Or, maybe it's just nothing specific. It takes little for my anxiety to snowball and for me to feel very unsafe and uptight in my environment. If they did move to a more rural area like another poster said, the bit of added stress is enough to go from "reasonably cautious" to "paranoid as fuck."

If I'm having a bit of a stressful day random stuff really freaks me out. Like if a car makes a weird noise I think it'll explode, stuff like that. But I'm never permanently in those environments. Technically the bugs alone can make Jill feel like she's in an unsafe environment constantly, even if that's not true. Her behavior could just be from the prolonged exposure.

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3 minutes ago, zadie said:

That is pretty specific. Maybe someone came in without their permission and interacted with Israel? Even if it wasn't in a negative way, knowing someone walked into your home and played with your kid without your permission is FREAKY.

 

I always keep all of my doors locked. My Sweetie, who grew up in a small town, doesn't usually remember to lock up. It does make me nervous.

 

With Jill, though, I'm on the fence. Part of me can see where she's coming from, especially as sheltered as her upbringing was, and part of me says, "That's what you get for being on a reality show!"

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Just now, Audrey2 said:

I always keep all of my doors locked. My Sweetie, who grew up in a small town, doesn't usually remember to lock up. It does make me nervous.

 

With Jill, though, I'm on the fence. Part of me can see where she's coming from, especially as sheltered as her upbringing was, and part of me says, "That's what you get for being on a reality show!"

 

Well, Jill didn't choose to be on a reality show. Also, idk if in that area that would be the cause of someone being in their house. I can't see people in rural CA people having the time/desire to give a shit about the Duggars lmfao. 

However, I do think it's what she gets for deciding to do this mission in the first place. If you weren't so dead set on converting Catholics and strengthening your white savior complex, you wouldn't be in this situation. Jessa may be considered the more "selfish" sibling but at least she saves all her pretentious savior stuff for fb hahaha.

It drives me NUTS when I think there are people out there who don't lock their doors. I think that'd be break up territory honestly. Or at least we would no longer be able to live together if you can't remember to lock the door lol.

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Ughhhhhhhhh. This show. I noticed that Jessa told Josie not to eat with her fingers. No more pickle pizzas held together by spit. JBoob's and Michelle's faces bother me so much more now. I was so annoyed when they just HAD to get in the shot where JinJer is talking to the DillyDoos in scary central America. The male Duggars are also grinding my gears tonight. The scene where one talks about scoping out the guy until the wedding day because they can't give a sister away to just anyone, SHE'S NOT YOURS TO GIVE AWAY!

On a lighter note, my husband came out while I was watching the show and eating dinner. He asked me how it was. I replied the yogurt was OK. My husband then informed me he meant the TV show. So I responded the yogurt was more interesting.

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On ‎8‎/‎23‎/‎2016 at 8:01 PM, twinmama said:

Jesus rode a dinosaur! The devil put those fosils there to tempt us and confuse us! 

Oh god, I went to find the Jesus cuddling the dinosaur meme, and found this instead... I hate the "C-word" but it made me laugh.

 

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And the one I was looking for initially... 

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Why this picture creep me out so much. Even if somehow dinosaurs were alive at the time of men, cuddling one would be the same as cuddling a baby alligator or lizard.  I don't think they are very cuddly.   Was there ever mention of dinosaurs in the bible?

"For waging war you need guidance, and for victory many advisers."  And go forward saddling your brontosauruses and triceratops as Jesus commanded.  
Proverbs 24:26 (NIV)

Somehow I doubt that.

 

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I can't believe how stupid this episode was.

Who in their right mind works out with a baby strapped to their back?  Spud's head was flopping back and forth.

Survival training with gender-segregated fire-starting lessons, an RV, a coffee maker, and a camera crew.  Got it.  Wonder where they borrowed the bear from.

Was Josiah really worried about Jill and Derick someday not returning a call?  Come on, Josiah...I had high hopes for you.

If Jill was so freaked about who might be at their front door, then maybe they should have installed a camera.  Bet someone they know could have helped them with that.

Jinger was acting like a lovestruck tween, yuck.

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I haven't seen the episode, but I think we need to cut Jinger some slack on her immature behavior re: having a boyfriend.  We already know these kids are emotionally stunted, and this is her very first and only BF.  Most of us got to have those first crushes when we were in Junior high and away from the spotlight.  She is more than likely being coached for the show to be as demonstrative as possible because that makes for better TV.  And of course, she is reacting like a 12 year because she has been taught since birth that her only accomplishments in life that matter are getting married and having babies.  Also,  I remember how over the top Michaela Bates was with her mate.  I just wonder if the Duggars try to outdo the Bates family at times. 

 

I   wouldn't have expected Jinger to behave like a normal 23 year old woman.  She is a sheltered, undeveloped immature girl in a woman's body.  And, none of that is her fault.  Her parents suck.

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Some random thoughts on this episode....

1) That whole "bear" scene - what on earth?? It felt like watching the Blair Witch Project... Lots of people getting panicky on night vision cameras over something that you CAN'T SEE.

2) Speaking of the camping, leaving the food out on the table guys? Really?!? Not one of you could remember to do that? Not cute. If there really was a bear nearby who got to it, you've just helped contribute to it becoming used to people and us as a source to get food. Anyone who lives in areas that have a large bear population knows the saying - a fed bear is a dead bear. They get used to coming around people for easy food, and then are a threat and have to be put down by conservation officers. Because lazy idiots like them can't be bothered to put the food away. Argh!

3) Jinger is a little over the top, but then she is with her first boyfriend ever, looking towards the first opportunity to move on with her life she's ever seen. I can't blame her for acting a little loopy. But I'm really done with everyone acting like a courting daughter immediately becomes incapable of accomplishing any tasks or responsibilities.

4) It's nice that Jeremy can at least string entire sentences together and be somewhat interesting, albeit hampered by the fact that he's been given the Duggar script of approved phrases as well (courtship, season, heart, blah blah). They have a way of just sucking the personality right out of people. The Borg....

5) Bin is painful. Like, so, SO painful. He's just trying his best but... Wow... 

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47 minutes ago, zadie said:

Well, Jill didn't choose to be on a reality show.

But she did choose to be on a reality show. TLC canceled 19K&C after Joshgate. Jill was free and clear of being on reality tv. Jill, Jessa, Derick and Ben all agreed to be the main focus of a new show. If she didn't want to be on a reality show, J&D could have hopped on a plane and flown off into the sunset. We wouldn't have any idea that they were in Central America if they hadn't told us. She may not have had a choice as a child but she's an adult now is responsible not only for herself but also for her son. If her fear is due to the show (i.e. rabid fans, haters showing up at their home) well, the Duggars have had other run-ins with fans who took things too far, like the girl who stole Jinger's diary that one time. They could have stopped the show at that point but they chose to continue with the show. 

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Just now, Bethella said:

But she did choose to be on a reality show. TLC canceled 19K&C after Joshgate. Jill was free and clear of being on reality tv. Jill, Jessa, Derick and Ben all agreed to be the main focus of a new show. If she didn't want to be on a reality show, J&D could have hopped on a plane and flown off into the sunset. We wouldn't have any idea that they were in Central America if they hadn't told us. She may not have had a choice as a child but she's an adult now is responsible not only for herself but also for her son. If her fear is due to the show (i.e. rabid fans, haters showing up at their home) well, the Duggars have had other run-ins with fans who took things too far, like the girl who stole Jinger's diary that one time. They could have stopped the show at that point but they chose to continue with the show. 

 

The rest of my post explained that I don't think her fear is with the show anyway. And technically yes, Jill did choose to be on a reality show. But I consider it about as much of a choice as her "choosing" to get married or not use birth control. Picking from the limited choices you see as positive when steeped in the kool aid don't actually fall into my day to day definition of choice.

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Wait...the jersey for a pillow case wasn't a joke? That's some straight up middle school shit. Come on, Jinger. You're supposed to stick a photo of him under your pillow all low-key like.

Joe: "don't want to hand over our sister to anyone." Man, I know you and Jinger are close but wtf with that statement. She's not an object.

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1 hour ago, zadie said:

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It drives me NUTS when I think there are people out there who don't lock their doors. I think that'd be break up territory honestly. Or at least we would no longer be able to live together if you can't remember to lock the door lol.

In defense of non-lockers: I went from living in the suburbs to downtown of huge city to middle of nowhere rural. I locked my doors and cars my whole life. About a year of country living and I locked nothing. It's difficult to explain, but the convenience eventually outweighs the essentially non-existent chance of anyone coming by. 

When we visit the city now I have to make a serious effort to lock my car. It's an easy habit to lose :) 

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Anna had a Josh pillow case when they were courting/engaged.  Ugh. 

 

Anyway,  when you are raised your whole life to think that your measure of success in life is to secure a husband and then babies,  it must be pretty exciting stuff. 

 

And of course since she was about 16 or so,  every show has been focused on who is being courted etc.  So her idea that courtship/engagement/marriage is the biggest deal ever has been reinforced by outside influences for years.  Not to mention that she is probably relieved to have someone take her away from the circus in the TTH.  And the comments about her being in la la land, etc are all just reinforcement to prove that this is her crowning achievement to her life thus far.  Her worth is determined by her purity, her marital status and her fecundity.

 

If I were her, I might be a bit giddy as well.  She has never had a single role model on how to express emotions authentically.  Michelle is a robotic and disconnected with her high treble baby voice.  JB is,  well, basically a moron.   So who is she supposed to learn about emotions from?  Jana who is a blunted as anyone,  Anna who smiles incongruously while talking about her cheating creepy husband, 

 

In my opinion she is playacting how she thinks a woman in looovvvveee would act.  I think she and Jeremy do have some chemistry and they may very well fancy themselves in love, but Jinger is playing a role that she was trained for since birth.

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1 hour ago, calimojo said:

I haven't seen the episode, but I think we need to cut Jinger some slack on her immature behavior re: having a boyfriend.  We already know these kids are emotionally stunted, and this is her very first and only BF.  Most of us got to have those first crushes when we were in Junior high and away from the spotlight.  She is more than likely being coached for the show to be as demonstrative as possible because that makes for better TV.  And of course, she is reacting like a 12 year because she has been taught since birth that her only accomplishments in life that matter are getting married and having babies.  Also,  I remember how over the top Michaela Bates was with her mate.  I just wonder if the Duggars try to outdo the Bates family at times. 

 

I   wouldn't have expected Jinger to behave like a normal 23 year old woman.  She is a sheltered, undeveloped immature girl in a woman's body.  And, none of that is her fault.  Her parents suck.

I am not cutting her some slack.  She is acting like some pathetic woman who has no clue. and the sad thing is her parents are responsible for this.  

She has the maturity of a 12 year old and the pillow cemented it not to mention everything else she says and does.  She annoyed me to no end.  Jessa I think was more mature even Jill was more mature.  And that is saying a lot.  

Who is coaching her - ? jessa  - I doubt it- this is the real Jinge and it screams I have been sheltered but I think I will stare at this man for the rest of my life. It is unauthentic and fake and yes its a reality show - and jeremy just rubs me the wrong way - something about him . 

I am done with Jinge - i never liked her - 

as for Ben - his stupid iq points just ran higher 

 

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Derick and Jill live in house on a secure compound with armed guards. It appeared with the last round of volunteers from the US, Jill and Israel stayed home from the outings and would meet up with the group when they were near a major city. The armed guards escort them whenever they leave the property. If she is anxious about Zika, then it would be miserable not to be able to go outside. Zika aside, for leaving her house, she has relative security and peace of mind in her immediate area. If she got bored waiting around while Derick was at work at Walmart I am sure she's much more so in El Salvador. Adding the extra fears of violence,spotty service/communication, pour grasp of the language, it's understandable if she isn't thriving. 

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1 hour ago, zadie said:

That is pretty specific. Maybe someone came in without their permission and interacted with Israel? Even if it wasn't in a negative way, knowing someone walked into your home and played with your kid without your permission is FREAKY.

Or, maybe it's just nothing specific. It takes little for my anxiety to snowball and for me to feel very unsafe and uptight in my environment. If they did move to a more rural area like another poster said, the bit of added stress is enough to go from "reasonably cautious" to "paranoid as fuck."

If I'm having a bit of a stressful day random stuff really freaks me out. Like if a car makes a weird noise I think it'll explode, stuff like that. But I'm never permanently in those environments. Technically the bugs alone can make Jill feel like she's in an unsafe environment constantly, even if that's not true. Her behavior could just be from the prolonged exposure.

I have had people just walk into my house. It was the evening, maybe around or slightly before dinner. My roommate was playing cello. We had a neighbor who was mentally ill and he heard the cello, decided it was a good jam and invited himself in. It scared the piss out of us. He wasn't normally violent but there had been a few cases. We locked all the time after that, it was just too spooky. 

I haven't watched yet but if that is something that happened,  I can empathize with the fear there. From the videos so far though, it seems that the Quincy nickname has been dropped. I just noticed this. 

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@nst I accidentally deleted your post.  Must've been a glitch on my end but i saw your post ldouble posted, so I checked to make sure they were identical and then deleted the duplicate and then when I refreshed both were gone.  I'd never delete for content and the post was perfectly fine...idk what happened but I'm sorry.

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So, props to Joy!!! Everybody else is fussing about accommodations, wifi, roughing it, and the boys   are being all manly Sleeping in Teepees and Making Fire ( cue Tim Allen growl) and the girl just grabs a hammock to go sleep under the stars. Joy may just free herself. That's my new dream. So far, she's staying true to her own identity as a young woman.

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I was really irritated with Derick when he was talking about how he enjoys being in the environment and lifestyle they have in Central America, despite the safety issues and unpredictable water, power, and cell service. Ok, that's fine for you, but what about what your wife wants? What about the safety and wellbeing of your family? I just found his attitude terribly selfish. If something bad happens to Jill or Israel, how is he going to live with that? If Jill has a nervous breakdown or becomes depressed, is that her own fault?

 

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Oh my god what a boring show. Ben comes off as so dumb. I really tried to withhold judgement on the guy but...ouch. Jessa oozes with contempt for him. And Jinger... it's almost painful to watch her. She's only two weeks or so younger than me and developmentally she reminds me of 14. Her voice and mannerisms make her seem so fragile. 

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I haven't seen the episode yet but I think it is fine if Derick says he enjoys CA as long as he doesn't force his family to stay there. If they are indeed in a compound then Jill and Israel can be safe 100% of the time. After that he sure he should be concerned with their happiness. I suspect b/c Derick enjoys this environment so much and Jill also at least proclaimed to have the 'missionary spirit' he thought she'd love it too. If he does love it I imagine it's hard to accept that your wife is not on board. (Especially if you thought she would be and that is a large part of what drew you to her in the first place).

Given that they are now back in the US and seem to be staying for awhile I suspect he has at least realized the current CA situation isn't working and will figure out a new plan. I expect them to pop out a couple more kids first though.

He is in a tough spot. He can't even work a proper job b/c his wife gets too lonely during the day / his FIL doesn't believe in working for someone else and missions will be tough if Jill is not on board.

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7 hours ago, Buzzard said:

 Jill tells us that Michelle and Boob "gift" us with a/c

Isn't that cheating? ;) 

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