Documentary: Virgin Tales

[Elle]

Wanna bet she's already decided that a college education would also be a waste for the daughters she has yet to birth?

And she's probably already decided for her daughter that they will "want" to follow in her footsteps.

[Elle]

Ugh! So the trailer starts off with the argument from popularity. Awesome way to start a documentary!

As the mother of a daughter, and as a daughter myself, if my father or my husband ever put this much interest into mine or my daughter's virginity there would be some serious ick factor and probably a divorce/removal of myself from the family. It is so fucking gross I can't even.

I told my husband a couple nights ago about Chick-fil-a hosting daddy-daughter date nights, and he didn't get what was so bad, a dad and his daughter having dinner and bonding time. And then I told him it's intended to be a romantic evening. His face distorted into a look of disgust and he asked WTF? We spent some time discussing our mutual disgust at trying to make daughters fall in romantic love with their daddies. When girls are little, sure, they sometimes think of their daddies as their prince chartings on their own, but to actively encourage it until the day they marry and are handed off like property being exchanged? And I told him about the purity balls where girls pledge their "purity", aka their vaginas, to their dad. He had no response to that other than to try to find words. It's our responsibility to teach our daughter about the world and what consequences can come with certain actions (like sex can lead to a baby, not sex leads you to hell), and do our best to equip her with the knowledge to make good, safe decisions on her own, NOT to claim ownership of her body, especially her nether regions.

[Elle]

This girl is so stupid. Insted of having education and a job to provide for herself, she prefers to be a house-wife and fully dependent on her husband. What a great goal in the life of an individual...

There's nothing wrong with wanting to be an at-home mom. It's what I wanted to be, a full-time mom, and that's with a mom who worked, not growing up thinking it's all I was good for. I'm an at-home mom now with a small business, but it wouldn't support me if my husband up and ran off. I am financially dependent on my husband at the end of the day, but he is dependent on me to take care of things when he's at work and not to run off with our daughter since any custody court would give me custody. For fundies, leaving isn't an option since that would lead to hell, so for fundies, the women are literally trapped and dependent. But for non-fundies, it can be a valid, thought-about decision that both partners agree to (really, if one person is expected to work so one can stay home, this needs the agreement of both people). We've got other at-home moms on this forum whose significant others work, and it's not fair to say that they have pathetic goals.

[geniebelle6901]

This is way too creepy! I'm glad my parents didn't come from this kind of crazy.

[CrazyCatLady]

the whole blessing each of the kids is really creepy. you should love and cherish your kids but that dad just crosses the line when it comes to creep factor. i don't understand the whole "daddy's princess" mentality. I didn't get married until i was in my late 20's and i sure as hell wasn't parading around like daddy's little princess. i was a grown ass woman!

[CrazyCatLady]

every time i see the name of this thread i change it to "Virgin Tail"...would be a good name for the porno version i guess.

[SisiL78]

the whole blessing each of the kids is really creepy. you should love and cherish your kids but that dad just crosses the line when it comes to creep factor.

I think the Evangelicals are ripping the children's blessing from Judaism. But, its a blessing over the CHILDREN, its not a blessing over the grown adults who you infantilize. And the blessing is done usually on Shabbos by both parents, not just Daddy. A little girl I know puts her hand on her own head after candle-lighting and announces "its time for my blessing!" and then says it along with her parents (I just want to squeeze and hug her an call her George). Anyhoo, you're meant to stop eventually. Then the Dad or the Mom does do a blessing over their kid right before the wedding ceremony too.

I suspect that this family only did the blessing for the cameras and/or it was part of a larger virginity prayer or event that we'd see if we bought the documentary. The mom crying her eyes out over the blessing made me think its not a daily/weekly occurence.

There is such an ick factor with this family. The state of a woman's hymen is not something that should have so much focus for so many years. I wish my dad had had some involvement, any involvement, in my life. And I think I would have liked to have gone to a Father/Daughter dance with him and done really anything that meant I got some positive attention from him. On one hand I think that some of the actions like the time spent together and the blessings are a great thing. But, the motivations behind these things are rather disturbing. Its not about spending time with one's daughter nor is it about helping her grow as a person. The whole point behind these excursions and the bonding is for the father to gain as much control over his daughter's heart and pubic area as he can and to continue that control in her life/education choices as well.

[masagoroll]

The dad holding the sword at the purity ball! LOOOOL! He looked so funny! Why do they think the weirdo imagery at those events is a good idea?

[crassy]

I told my husband a couple nights ago about Chick-fil-a hosting daddy-daughter date nights, and he didn't get what was so bad, a dad and his daughter having dinner and bonding time. And then I told him it's intended to be a romantic evening.

Yeah, my husband and our daughter go out every Saturday morning for a breakfast 'date'. She's 4 and thinks it is the greatest thing in the whole world. However, insert some sort of romantic thing in there and no fucking way. Just gross.

every time i see the name of this thread i change it to "Virgin Tail"...would be a good name for the porno version i guess.

Brb, pitching movie idea to Vivid!

[samurai_sarah]

Wow, that was creepy! The part where all the girls lift their ballet skirts squicked me out completely. Off to find brain-bleach.

[salsa]

Wow, that was creepy! The part where all the girls lift their ballet skirts squicked me out completely. Off to find brain-bleach.

YES! eeeewwwww.

[SisiL78]

YES! eeeewwwww.

That comment made me re-watch. I didn't see that the first time. Ya, that's modest?

What was with the photo of the back of a guy in fatigues (or something) and a woman in a ballerina outfit with her leg stuck straight up in the air. Was that their wedding photo or something? It was unusual and not very modest imho. But they make their own rules, we're just supposed to do as they say not as they do.

[Daenerys]

So when is this actually on TV?

[terranova]

The dad holding the sword at the purity ball! LOOOOL! He looked so funny! Why do they think the weirdo imagery at those events is a good idea?

That struck me as phallic

[SomewhatFundy]

What is with these delicate, modest flowers flashing their crotches at their fathers during the ballet dance?

I was a virgin when I got married, but had my dad of discussed the state of my hymen with me at any point I think I would have vomited.

[formergothardite]

What is with these delicate, modest flowers flashing their crotches at their fathers during the ballet dance?

I was a virgin when I got married, but had my dad of discussed the state of my hymen with me at any point I think I would have vomited.

Not to derail the thread, but are you just one of these people who say inflammatory things and then ignore all the responses to you? Like the in the "Check-mate Pro-choicers" thread.

[SomewhatFundy]

Oh sorry, I forgot that I posted in that thread. I will go check it out in a second, I didn't mean to leave anyone waiting on a response.

[moreorlessnu]

Is the father in the video wearing a toupee?

[NotALoserLikeYou]

I thought I had something new here when I saw this article today:

foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/07/03/virgin-tales-explores-community-who-dont-even-kiss-until-theyre-married/#ixzz2Xyy9SxwC

Anyhow, for anyone who hasn't seen it, its airing at the end of the month on Showtime

The documentary, slated to air on Showtime later this month, follows the Wilson family, American Evangelical Christians who believe not only in waiting until their wedding night to have sex, but even to share their first kiss. "Virgin Tales" focuses on two years in the lives of the Wilson parents, founders of the Purity Ball, as they prepare their seven children for their vision of romance and marriage.

n the Wilson family, dad calls the shots.

“There’s a strong belief that father knows best. They really do feel like their father is trustworthy and they trust his opinion,†von Arx explained. “The women are life-givers, and that is their main role within the family, and the women around them all fit into those places.

“Virgin Tales†airs on Showtime July 23 at 7.30pm.

[NotALoserLikeYou]

Here are the bios of the cast

virgintales.com/en/film/cast-and-crew/

[curlytoes79]

What is with these delicate, modest flowers flashing their crotches at their fathers during the ballet dance?

I wish I could add some word balloons to that pic at 0:47 (chick in the wedding dress kicking her leg up). "Hey I'm finally married! Git in there and make us some youngins,' Jed!"

[AnywhereButHere]

Wow, that whole thing was amazingly creepy. I kept waiting for the father with the sword to go off on a murderous rampage a la "The Shining".

Those ballet skirts, totally not modest, and I think the lightening strike was God's way of saying "Really? Do this in my name again, and I'll put the next one closer..." :P

[VooDooChild]

:shock: Dafuq did I just watch?! What's with the 50's housewife dress in the kitchen complete with pearls? (All 50's housewives were "unsoiled", I guess.) What's with the incessant pictures of people kissing? And what. the. hell. is with the sword?

Ick. Ima need a shower now.

[louisa05]

When I watch stuff like this and read their courtship garbage, I can't help but think that in their insane quest to remove sexuality from relationships all they've done is made marriage about nothing but sex. And they are too dumb to realize it.

[alaeangelorum]

I think you're right. The blessing by dad ritual seems the same. And they creep me out just as much.

Yes I'm pretty sure it's them, in the other documentary I think they said at the end that the oldest (unmarried at the time) daughter was going to marry someone in the military, and I think that's her talking about how wonderful it is that she saved herself.

Plus the ballet and the cross and everything all look the same.