Jill, Derick and Israel- Lucky Number 13

[Whoosh]

5 minutes ago, Chickenbutt said:

I wanted to give an upvote to socalrules, but when I clicked it said "you are not allowed to give reputation to this user" . That has happened several times with different users. *shrug* I dunno.

It is saying you liked socalrules' most recent post.  Sometimes it registers twice and you get that message for the second one (but it registers the first).  

[Chickenbutt]

Thank you Whoosh....

[Coconut Flan]

Look at the post again and see if the green up arrow is gone.  It will go away once you up vote someone. 

[PennySycamore]

@Chickenbutt, your upvote  was recorded for socal's great post.

[SassyPants]

31 minutes ago, Flyinthesoup said:

That's just nuts, all of it!!!

 Michele actually wore a shirt that stated:  

Crazy!  I am actually shocked she would wear that kind of saying on her chest, or was that on her back?  Either way, that is so tacky, tacky, tacky!

My breast friend is a device utilized for nursing babies. It clearly states that the device is to be used while the nursing mother is seated. Michelle was filmed and photographed over and over again, walking around with a baby (baby legs dangling, visibly, off the side of the device) in the device.

 

[2manyKidzzz]

1 minute ago, SassyPants said:

My breast friend is a device utilized for nursing babies. It clearly states that the device is to be used while the nursing mother is seated. Michelle was filmed and photographed over and over again, walking around with a baby (baby legs dangling, visibly, off the side of the device) in the device.

 

I remember her using it as they stood on a flatbed truck in a parade in Pigeon Forge, TN when they were there for some HolyEvent. She has no shame, I guess. 

[Flyinthesoup]

27 minutes ago, SassyPants said:

My breast friend is a device utilized for nursing babies. It clearly states that the device is to be used while the nursing mother is seated. Michelle was filmed and photographed over and over again, walking around with a baby (baby legs dangling, visibly, off the side of the device) in the device.

 

OK, it's a device, not a saying!  I thought it was odd that she would wear such a saying.  Putting that part aside, though, if they have been so reckless like that, how on earth have they been able to have followers? ...no need to answer that, just me scratching my head and thinking aloud...and typing, of course.   

[Coconut Flan]

Nursing pillow:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/46951383?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227036276216&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=80115655952&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=156680879312&veh=sem

[MakeItSo]

a little late to the party but allow me to put my party hat on for a second. I am subscribed to the Dullard's email list and just had the chance to read it...well, I read the first sentence and then rolled my eyes so hard they fell out of their sockets. "concerning the work that the Lord is doing in the Latin American world at this present time" <-- SUCH a cookie cutter meaningless expression they always use, it immediately suspends any attention I might have been paying whenever the Duggars, Dullards, etc say that. Alright now, excuse me. *takes off party hat* *takes off chasing after the old eyeballs*

[Chickenbutt]

Thanks everyone. Appreciate the knowledge. You are all the best!

[Valerie3kids]

3 hours ago, socalrules said:

It is possible that Derrick may be suffering from depression. We talk about how Jill's life has changed but Derrick's has a well. He quickly married someone he really didn't know, gave up his career for the life of a reality star only to lose the show when the his new family's horrible secrets came out, he likely felt helpless when his mom was battling cancer and feared he would lose his last parent, became a parent himself and went though oral surgery he may or may not have needed. This is all in a span of less than two years. Has it even been two years since they married? 

I also wonder if he feels like he has, in a way, failed his family. It seems like his father was a larger than life man who he respected and likely still overshadows his life. His father was likely the dependable man you can count on. He was a cop and, from what we have heard, seems to have been a good father and husband. He was so important that Derrick had to be Pistol Pete just like his Dad. Derrick may feel like he has failed his Dad. He isn't financially supporting his family, he isn't really doing anything as a missionary, he is far away from his mother who has only recently gone into remission for cancer and he doesn't seem to be doing much that a non-fundy parent would expect of their adult, married child. His Dad really did help people everyday as a police office and Derrick is handing out one crayon at a time. 

Also, Derrick seems to look worse since his mother left and he may feel guilty about being so far away from her. She is likely a stabilizing influence on him. He may also realize he can never have the marriage his parents had as he married a woman who does not seems as capable as an adult as his mother, who was able to continue on when his Dad died, and who was able to financially and emotionally support her children. 

I have thought about Derrick may be suffering from depression, but had not taken it as far as you have. You have some very good ideas on what really could be going on in Derrick's head. His father was a bigger than life person and Derrick obviously loved him as he followed him to OSU. He may be struggling with what his father would think of how he has turned out. I know I often wonder that since my parents have passed away. What would they of how I handled my life etc?

Very good thoughts. Plus, he is also dealing with Jill. I do not mean to pick on her but I do not feel she was emotionally ready for so many changes in her life in such a short time. I feel that has caused her to lean heavily on Derrick and that may leave him wondering who is he to lean on?

[gustava]

9 minutes ago, Valerie3kids said:

I feel that has caused her to lean heavily on Derrick and that may leave him wondering who is he to lean on?

Jebus.

[nst]

19 hours ago, Flyinthesoup said:

As I have said in the past, I have never seen a Duggar episode. Is this a list of things they have done? On TV? 

the first episode you must watch is the riveting one where there is a blizzard and Jim Bod drives through the snow 

riveting television - couldn't remove my eyes 

the next one is Duggar and Dentists - where the entire family go to the dentist

i swear it's better than Gone with the Wind

 

[HarryPotterFan]

Maybe Derrick just doesn't trust Jill to cut his hair because she's so bad at it and in addition he ran out of shaving supplies and doesn't know where to get more? Who knows. 

And what the crap are they talking about? "The work the lord is doing?" I'm curious about what they're referring to.

[season of life]

2 hours ago, HarryPotterFan said:

And what the crap are they talking about? "The work the lord is doing?" I'm curious about what they're referring to.

Oh, you know. Trying to convert those terrible heathens and milk money from anyone stupid enough to believe their drivel. The usual.

[Alachantal]

On 2/19/2016 at 5:56 AM, devoe364 said:

We use skeeter and skeetos in Saskatchewan.

Here too in BC

[grandmadugger]

4 hours ago, Valerie3kids said:

I have thought about Derrick may be suffering from depression, but had not taken it as far as you have. You have some very good ideas on what really could be going on in Derrick's head. His father was a bigger than life person and Derrick obviously loved him as he followed him to OSU. He may be struggling with what his father would think of how he has turned out. I know I often wonder that since my parents have passed away. What would they of how I handled my life etc?

Very good thoughts. Plus, he is also dealing with Jill. I do not mean to pick on her but I do not feel she was emotionally ready for so many changes in her life in such a short time. I feel that has caused her to lean heavily on Derrick and that may leave him wondering who is he to lean on?

I've wondered if Derrick has "buyers remorse"

[AlysonRR]

Re: Izzy possibly falling.

If they're still in the rental, it looked like it had all tile flooring. I can't imagine how many bruises my firstborn would have had if we only had tile when he was learning to walk!

Firstborn would trip over a single Cheerio in the middle of the large floor. I thought it was normal for those learning to walk, but secondborn could walk through a room with a thousand things on the floor without a problem at the same stage.

Some kids are clumsier than others, and tile is harder to bonk on than carpet (or even wood).

[jcanglin991]

Derrick seemed to enjoy his time in Nepal, where he basically led hiking trips and proselytized on the down low. He apparently was more involved in the daily life  of the country and lived like a local, so was more accepted. He and Jill are living in a western compound with others like him and when they interact with the locals are pretty removed from them, plus the only reason they are there is to convert other Christians to their way of thinking. The SOS people come in for a couple of weeks, look at the people who live there like animals in a zoo, and then go back to their superior, (to them), lives. They know Jill and Derrick will do the same and see no reason to embrace them. I assume they tolerate them for whatever assistance they will give, and why not. Speaking as a Catholic, my beliefs are deeply held and I would not abandon them just because a couple of people came over to my country to tell me I should. I probably know more scripture and understand it better than Jill and Derrick. Jill, I'm sure, knows only what Jim Bob or Derrick has told her. Derrick may know more about the Bible, but he still has the air of someone who decides what he wants to tell you to do and then goes on a hunt to find the Bible verse to back it up, much like Jessa.

[CreationMuseumSeasonPass]

I'm a Midwest girl who grew up hearing her grandfather say all the time, "The skeeters are out tonight." But, I'm also a 90s childhood girl, so here's a picture of Skeeter Valentine from Nickelodeon's "Doug."

[twinmama]

On 2/20/2016 at 9:45 AM, quiverofdoubt said:

Maybe derricks' grooming kit got lost? kind of looks that way. I mean, to each his own, but his scruff looks less deliberate and more "I've been lost in the woods for 6 months, do you have anything to eat?"

Izzy has really pale skin. It's possible he bruises really easily. And my kid had a few lumps/bruises/cuts here and there, and on her face, in the past. I'm sure more will come. She marks easily as well.  And she's far from reckless.  So it's totally possible that this kid is just a super active, learning to crawl baby, who tends to bruise easily.  But then why doesn't she say something? There are comments and even articles speculating about bruised boy, and yet no explanation. It makes it look like the only explanation implicates the parents in some way, so that's why she's staying quiet.  I'd happily believe he crashed off the couch or into a chair when Jill took a minute to pee or get a diaper or whatever- these things happen to everybody, it's part of childhood.  I'd also believe he got smacked for leaving his blanket, or is not being supervised like at all, in an unsafe environment.

How is a black eye going to be evidence of blanket training? (Not that you were saying that quiverofdoubt). They don't punch them in the face to keep them on the thing...

Maybe Izzy is a climber. One of mine climbed before he walked and had a couple black eyes from his less successful ventures.

On 2/20/2016 at 11:17 AM, MatthewDuggar said:

The Dillards are out of control.  This new photo shows a huge bruise of Israel's head.  There are also reports that he might have some delays as he isn't speaking any yet.

I have to say LMAO at a baby not speaking being a sign of a delay. Mine didn't speak until they were like 2 years old and their pediatrician was still not concerned about delay.

[THERetroGamerNY]

2 minutes ago, twinmama said:

How is a black eye going to be evidence of blanket training? (Not that you were saying that quiverofdoubt). They don't punch them in the face to keep them on the thing...

Maybe Izzy is a climber. One of mine climbed before he walked and had a couple black eyes from his less successful ventures.

I must say, with some trepidation - and a careful consideration of everything - that I sometimes think all these claims of blanket training are a touch ... over done.

Like how somebody recently said over in the Bate's thread: The Bates allegedly do it, with a ruler, but have denied it. Translation: You have zero evidence for an accusation of abuse.

Trust me: I wouldn't put it past these people, nor even be surprised ... but I kinda do want to see a touch more actual proof.

[quiverofdoubt]

1 minute ago, twinmama said:

How is a black eye going to be evidence of blanket training? (Not that you were saying that quiverofdoubt). They don't punch them in the face to keep them on the thing...

Maybe Izzy is a climber. One of mine climbed before he walked and had a couple black eyes from his less successful ventures.

re-reading i realize i was unclear. I'd believe that jill would use a "correction" aka, a smack on the butt or legs, like her mom did, to teach him to stay on the blanket. Something she probably saw countless times watching her siblings getting "trained" while she was growing up.  They just don't seem like "smack the kid around the head" kind of family. They are less about wild angry outbursts and more about manipulation, fear, intimidation and "training".  the kids are less scared of a smack in the face and a lot more scared of burning in hell forever. 

In short I think the bruises are probably fairly normal, the lack of explanation is not. I also believe that Jill would blanket train and use pretty much the same child rearing tactics her parents used and are currently using. It's all she knows.

She should know better than to have most of her social media pics be of her kid bruised, than not explain it, and not expect a certain degree of speculation by the public at large. People are finding out their dark secrets and after finding out about molestation, cheating and "porn addiction" I'm thinking speculating that duggar hits their kid isn't a stretch. (talking public at large, not necessarily fjers.)

[twinmama]

And bruises can also be from kids waving around some wooden or plastic toy and bopping themselves on the head with it. Or if there's another kid around, kids love to throw toys and have super crap aim (or really good aim, if they were going for twin brother's forehead!). I read somewhere that bruises on the torso are more likely to be abuse related than the head or limbs of a young child. My boys shins were constantly covered in bruises and I could not figure out why until one time my husband told me to watch them in their high chairs. They'd get excited and kick their legs over and over and over, banging their shins right up into the edge of the tray! 

[quiverofdoubt]

1 minute ago, THERetroGamerNY said:

I must say, with some trepidation - and a careful consideration of everything - that I sometimes think all these claims of blanket training are a touch ... over done.

Like how somebody recently said over in the Bate's thread: The Bates allegedly do it, with a ruler, but have denied it. Translation: You have zero evidence for an accusation of abuse.

Trust me: I wouldn't put it past these people, nor even be surprised ... but I kinda do want to see a touch more actual proof.

The police interviews where one of the children said they all get spanked with a rod, combined with the duggar's putting pearl stuff in their books/website, and michelle's admission of blanket training, is enough for me.  I don't see jb and michelle taking bits and pieces of a philosophy to use- they tend to go all in on belief systems, following instructions to the letter. They wouldn't read pearl's instructions for blanket training then just do bits of it and not all of it. They say themselves the child gets a "correction" for leaving the blanket. Correction is ati/pearl code for corporal punishment.