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Here's last night's return flight. Damned Duggars, flying during my dinner and TV time. smh

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Cirrus. Rockford to Springdale. Two hours out and three hours back, again. On the ground about an hour. No mention of this visit on Rockford Scanner.

I like the theory that Anna and the M's spent a few days there, but I feel like we saw Meredith at the TTH in the last few days. But they could be posting old pictures. So basically I agree with all of you. :pb_lol:

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53 minutes ago, halcionne said:

No mention of this visit on Rockford Scanner.

I hope @RockfordScanner was busy at the airport getting pictures and not live reporting as to tip off the Duggars. But as someone else said, it would have been dark when they landed and took off at Rockford.

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By flying this time they've avoided the whole Missouri flooding issue we've got going across the state.

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48 minutes ago, clueliss said:

By flying this time they've avoided the whole Missouri flooding issue we've got going across the state.

Yea, good luck driving anywhere in the state of Missouri right now and expect to get there quickly. The flooding situation is seriously bananas.

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5 hours ago, Buzzard said:

Just because they posted a video doesnt mean that they filmed it on christmas.  The Duggars are famous for time shifting.

As for the flight yesterday, I wonder if Anna is visiting for new years.  Gotta stare at eachother and make promises for the new year, new you!

Maybe they'll be out for New Years! Bar hoppin' the night away!

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Oh man. I'm addicted to flightaware now. It feeds my curiosity as I've always wondered which of the the Omaha airports the low flying planes i see from work are headed to. It's too fun. I'll be outside having a smoke and hear that distinctive sound, whip out flightaware, and see who it is and where it's going.

Thank you @Halcionne for bringing, ahem, awareness to flightaware. ;)

edited for proper wording.

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17 hours ago, Buzzard said:

Just because they posted a video doesnt mean that they filmed it on christmas.  The Duggars are famous for time shifting.

As for the flight yesterday, I wonder if Anna is visiting for new years.  Gotta stare at eachother and make promises for the new year, new you!

I don't think the video proves that Josh wasn't at the TTH.  (They just needed to keep him off-screen.) I think it suggests that Anna and the kids were away from the TTH on Christmas morning.  While it is possible that they lied about when it was filmed, what would be the point?

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7 minutes ago, EmCatlyn said:

I don't think the video proves that Josh wasn't at the TTH.  (They just needed to keep him off-screen.) I think it suggests that Anna and the kids were away from the TTH on Christmas morning.  While it is possible that they lied about when it was filmed, what would be the point?

I agree, very easy to keep him out of frame if he truly was at the TTH... Flight aware is way more accurate and useful in this circumstance than the videos coming from TTH, unless it showed him at the dining table with a paper plate in hand.

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Based on the information from Radaronline, found  in this link posted in this thread by JenniferJuniper, I am wondering if the purpose of the last two trips to RU, has been to discuss the current filings for the lawsuit.  The first one was on the 23rd and the last on the 28th, which makes the following days, plausible for delivering paperwork and discussing the case with Josh.  It's possible the first trip on the 24th was already planned and the paperwork was an addition to the trip, but I suspect there is more legal discussions going on right now, thus why the trips to RU. 

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3 hours ago, EmCatlyn said:

I don't think the video proves that Josh wasn't at the TTH.  (They just needed to keep him off-screen.) I think it suggests that Anna and the kids were away from the TTH on Christmas morning.  While it is possible that they lied about when it was filmed, what would be the point?

The Duggars moved July 4th a few years ago... nothing they do necessarily makes sense.  As for flying back and forth for legal reasons, fedex is a lot cheaper if he needed to sign something.

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8 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

The Duggars moved July 4th a few years ago... nothing they do necessarily makes sense.  As for flying back and forth for legal reasons, fedex is a lot cheaper if he needed to sign something.

I agree! :)  I was simply thinking it's possible they wanted 'privacy' in discussing things and planning strategy.  Just a thought...

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I think we need to take a moment to enjoy that this thread knew where Josh was the last few months.  I believe the first mention of RU was from a post by  @chelleinchicago on 8/25/15 after a screenshot of the flight to Rockford by   @halcionne .  I couldn't get the previous thread to quote the post, so I copied and pasted the text.

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I thought I remembered them being in Rockford last year.... From their FB page October 30, 2014: "We are in Rockford, IL today speaking at Reformers Unanimous national conference. They are an incredible Christian based drug/ alcohol addiction program. While there we saw our good friends Godfrey and Launa Watson from Jamaica, too. Love supporting organizations and events like these...NOW back to wedding work!"

ETA: Reformers Unanimous has a residential recovery site in Rockford, and among the things they treat are porn and sex addictions. "There is Help for the Christian Struggling with Pornography!"

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2 hours ago, Buzzard said:

The Duggars moved July 4th a few years ago... nothing they do necessarily makes sense.  As for flying back and forth for legal reasons, fedex is a lot cheaper if he needed to sign something.

What do you mean "moved July 4th"? I haven't heard about this  :?

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9 minutes ago, IreneIssh said:

What do you mean "moved July 4th"? I haven't heard about this  :?

They celebrated it on some other day, probably for filming purposes. I don't remember the details, but it was discussed here, and I'm pretty sure it was before Smuggles and co moved to DC.

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10 minutes ago, halcionne said:

They celebrated it on some other day, probably for filming purposes. I don't remember the details, but it was discussed here, and I'm pretty sure it was before Smuggles and co moved to DC.

Gotcha. I'll browse around to see if I can find that discussion. Thanks! :thanks:

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20 minutes ago, IreneIssh said:

Gotcha. I'll browse around to see if I can find that discussion. Thanks! :thanks:

I believe it in one of the many Joshy Instagram threads.  

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This morning my headship asked if the Duggar plane would be back any time soon as he enjoyed driving around the airport :my_biggrin:

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9 minutes ago, Lamoria said:

This morning my headship asked if the Duggar plane would be back any time soon as he enjoyed driving around the airport :my_biggrin:

Wow!  That headship of yours is a keeper!  

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On ‎12‎/‎29‎/‎2015 at 5:54 PM, HereticHick said:

New post count title: One of JD's Accountability Buddies

Better yet, Free Jinger is one of JD's Accountability Buddies

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7 hours ago, halcionne said:

They celebrated it on some other day, probably for filming purposes. I don't remember the details, but it was discussed here, and I'm pretty sure it was before Smuggles and co moved to DC.

I was just talking to a friend who moved Christmas Day to NYDay because the whole family couldn't make it for Christmas.   Another family I know routinely celebrates Thanksgiving on Friday so that the married kids and their families can spend Thursday with their spouses' families.  They would rather have everyone together all Fridays than take turns with their children's in-laws and not always have all of them together.  My former in-laws (lax Conservative Jews) would move the Seder around to any day during Passover (and once to the night before the first night) depending on everyone's availability to get together.

Sorry, after all these examples, I can't think it is odd to move the Fourth of July celebration.

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12 minutes ago, EmCatlyn said:

I was just talking to a friend who moved Christmas Day to NYDay because the whole family couldn't make it for Christmas.   Another family I know routinely celebrates Thanksgiving on Friday so that the married kids and their families can spend Thursday with their spouses' families.  They would rather have everyone together all Fridays than take turns with their children's in-laws and not always have all of them together.  My former in-laws (lax Conservative Jews) would move the Seder around to any day during Passover (and once to the night before the first night) depending on everyone's availability to get together.

Sorry, after all these examples, I can't think it is odd to move the Fourth of July celebration.

:kitty-wink:

I don't think it's odd in the circumstances you mentioned. It was odd, imo, to move it so they could film it more conveniently, iirc. They aired it months later, so it wasn't like they wanted to air it on the actual holiday. It didn't make any sense to move it a few days up or back just to be able to film it, but for all I know, there was some other reason they moved it. :confusion-shrug:

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Reality shows routinely film holidays on alternate days so the film crews can spend the actual holiday with their families and to permit adequate editing time. 

 

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I decided to sign up for flight aware and start looking at flights for the Duggars and see if I can make any connections.  Here’s what I speculate, at this point in time:

 

-In Touch and other sources, publicly announced the filing of the lawsuit, on the 18th of Nov., though the filing took place on the 17th of Nov.

-According to the radar on line report on Dec. 29th, Josh received the lawsuit on or about the 23rd of November…so 5 or 6 days after the filing.

 

Looking over the flights at Flight Aware:

 

-On Nov. 10th or 11th, the Duggars made an unscheduled flight to Rockford and returned to Springdale the evening of the 11th.  I suspect they knew about a possible lawsuit in the works and started planning what they were going to do.

*- On the 12th of Nov., the Duggars flew into Denton, TX, which I suspect, was for a meeting with someone for counsel.

-On Nov. 25th, so 2 days after Josh received notice of the lawsuit, and one day before Thanksgiving, there was a tiny trip from Springdale to Forrest City, with a return flight about an hour later.  My guesses are: 1) to drop something off, or 2) drop off someone, possibly to take a flight elsewhere.  I have not cross referenced the people the Duggars know and take for flights, so possibly that might explain some of this?!

***other flights***

-On Dec. 24th, a flight from Springdale to Rockford.  While it’s possible that Josh was picked up and brought to the compound, I’m not sure that’s it.  I do think they were getting more paperwork ready for the filing that took place on December 28. 

-On Dec. 29, I think that was a quick trip to either 1) drop Josh back at his home away from home, or 2) drop off paperwork that was formally filed and signed off.

 

*I did a little (hahaha, hours later)  looking around for a lawyer in Denton and I came up with a possibility, but it’s only a speculation at this point in time.  I hope someone else can dig a bit deeper to figure this out.  Rick Hagen is not only a conservative republican, but also a lawyer. When reading his About Rick Hagen page, he lists having worked for Jim Horn….that name is familiar with all the Duggar ‘stuff’, but I can’t recall why.  It’s possible he is giving counsel, but not acting counsel for Josh.  I think when I was researching Jim Bob’s political information, along with Jim Holt, Jim Horn came up.  All these Jims…must be a southern favourite name. J

 

***other flights I suspect have to do with being shuttled to larger airports for longer haul flights, such as possibly to Pennsylvania. J

 

As mentioned by other members, I do believe many of these trips are legal in nature.

More rabbit holes to explore! ;)

 

 

 

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I was going to mention that Skype would be a much cheaper option; but then it occurred to me Smug wouldn't be allowed near a computer.

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11 minutes ago, CorruptionInc. said:

I was going to mention that Skype would be a much cheaper option; but then it occurred to me Smug wouldn't be allowed near a computer.

Maybe supervised?

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