The Courtship of Jessa Duggar - Part 2

[happy atheist 5,262]

The big news broke somewhere in here: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19243

Please try to limit this thread to discussion of Jessa's courtship and related matters.

 

Season 7 of 19 Kids and Counting is discussed here: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19302

And everything else about the Duggars is discussed here: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19312

[Rachel333 10,752]

Started to post this in the other thread, but it got locked in between:

Ben would need years of education to become a Pastor.It does not seem like a good idea to get married when he is going to be in classes for the remaining of the possible marriage.

Education? Hahaha. All you need in these groups is to call yourself a pastor and you're good. :D

It's interesting to compare that to, say, my friend who in now in grad school studying to be a UU minister. Years of education so far and she's still got a few left. Of course, she doesn't have the one qualification the fundies do require: a penis.

[Iokaste 993]

Picking up the "ethical non-hand-holding"-theme: don't you think they might have been "gently" coaxed to "choose" a hands-off courtship after Smuggar and Anna's embarrasing "hand-job" courtship?

Now that Josh has moved, do you think Jessa will be set up in that house as well?

[anjulibai 5,079]

From another comment on the other thread, I'm thinking the reason the J'slave book has been delayed has to do with Jessa's courtship. So anything they say in it about dating and marriage can come with a "See, one of us has experience!"

[tropaka 137]

Picking up the "ethical non-hand-holding"-theme: don't you think they might have been "gently" coaxed to "choose" a hands-off courtship after Smuggar and Anna's embarrasing "hand-job" courtship?

Now that Josh has moved, do you think Jessa will be set up in that house as well?

I think Josh and Anna didn't hold hands until after they were engaged, and I bet the pressure was on to keep the same rules for this couple.

[formergothardite 38,600]

Started to post this in the other thread, but it got locked in between:

Education? Hahaha. All you need in these groups is to call yourself a pastor and you're good. :D

It's interesting to compare that to, say, my friend who in now in grad school studying to be a UU minister. Years of education so far and she's still got a few left. Of course, she doesn't have the one qualification the fundies do require: a penis.

Yeah, these sorts of people don't spend years becoming a pastor. Even those who go to Bible College to study usually spend the regular four years.

[nokidsmom 6,877]

Now that Josh has moved, do you think Jessa will be set up in that house as well?

Interesting thought about Jessia moving into the house but I hope she moves closer to Ben's family. If only to get some distance from the TTH. I think it's possible that she could still be urged to continue the J'slave role to some degree if she lives too close. This way she and Ben have some breathing space.

[curlytoes79 0]

This is ridiculous. Where is the trust in this family? When does Jessa get to lean on those awesome Christian values that have been hammered into her since the moment she was born, without Dim Bulb or an accountability buddy looking over her shoulder? You can't call yourself virtuous if you've never been tempted; you're just over-protected.

[nokidsmom 6,877]

This is ridiculous. Where is the trust in this family? When does Jessa get to lean on those awesome Christian values that have been hammered into her since the moment she was born, without Dim Bulb or an accountability buddy looking over her shoulder? You can't call yourself virtuous if you've never been tempted; you're just over-protected.

It's ironic isn't it. And it's not just trust in their daughter and that she will make the right decisions, JB and J'chelle don't trust in their own parenting.

[Mela99 17,380]

Interesting thought about Jessia moving into the house but I hope she moves closer to Ben's family. If only to get some distance from the TTH. I think it's possible that she could still be urged to continue the J'slave role to some degree if she lives too close. This way she and Ben have some breathing space.

I guess the man being the headship only counts when the man is a Duggar. Kelly Bates said it would be Chad's leadership to decide if they stayed or moved.

[nokidsmom 6,877]

I guess the man being the headship only counts when the man is a Duggar. Kelly Bates said it would be Chad's leadership to decide if they stayed or moved.

Re: the bold, you may be right. As much as I hate this "headship business" with fundies, at least Kelly is being consistent about it and it shows that she also recognizes, albeit in the fundie way, that she and Gil will have to let go. I don't see JB doing that. He will still want to be the man in charge.

Watch really close when we see to the transfer of authority (ugh!) at Jessa and Ben's wedding. Maybe TLC should zero on on JB when that's being done.

[SnarkySarah27 0]

What's betting that there will be a second courtship announced soon. Jimbob can't be letting that Gil get one up on him!

[sleepygirl1 0]

What's betting that there will be a second courtship announced soon. Jimbob can't be letting that Gil get one up on him!

My guess is John David being the next one married off.

[flyawaystray 0]

It has to be really weird to go from almost no physical contact, to having sex on the wedding night. I can imagine being totally petrified and anxious in that situation. I hope these parents at least talk with their sons and daughters so they know what they can expect.

[galaxy 0]

My guess is John David being the next one married off.

I agree, in many ways I'm actually surprised he wasn't courting before Jessa.

[gustava 2,656]

I agree, in many ways I'm actually surprised he wasn't courting before Jessa.

As I've said elsewhere, I'm guessing JD is getting some on the side. And I really don't think he lives in the TTH.

[Rita 3]

It has to be really weird to go from almost no physical contact, to having sex on the wedding night. I can imagine being totally petrified and anxious in that situation. I hope these parents at least talk with their sons and daughters so they know what they can expect.

Now that the older girls have read anatomy & physiology books for midwifery, surely they have more knowledge than their peers, if not their parents.

[JenniferJuniper 9,187]

I agree, in many ways I'm actually surprised he wasn't courting before Jessa.

Methinks JD has sufficient control over his own life to avoid a televised dog and pony courtship/engagement/wedding. And I kind of doubt he's still a virgin, although I'm sure he has to be discreet.

Jana's gonna find herself a beau through the Journey soon enough. Jinger will follow in a couple of years when Joy and Hannie can run Michelle's household for her.

[MarsGirl 3]

Wow. I havent been on FJ in like a month and this is what I missed!? Holy cow!!

[Mela99 17,380]

It has to be really weird to go from almost no physical contact, to having sex on the wedding night. I can imagine being totally petrified and anxious in that situation. I hope these parents at least talk with their sons and daughters so they know what they can expect.

It's already awkward and uncomfortable, and I'm sorry, but virgin boys know NOTHING about a woman's needs, so I imagine it's even worse.

Unless they just give them a copy of that Ed Wheat book, which SUPPOSEDLY says a man is in charge of pleasing his wife.

[Tangy Bee 1,357]

Well it's national news now. I don't think JB would allow the media to know unless he is VERY certain things will work out. A broken courtship could totally ruin the Duggar's credibility with their fans :roll:

[CruitLvr 0]

Methinks JD has sufficient control over his own life to avoid a televised dog and pony courtship/engagement/wedding. And I kind of doubt he's still a virgin, although I'm sure he has to be discreet.

I'm sure I'm way off, but JD has always struck me as being so "different" than anyone else in the family. Sure, he's still fundie to the core, but it's obvious he doesn't care about the dog and pony show at all.

Back to Jessa - I didn't read part one of this, but I am happy for her. At least she will get out of the house.

[Justme 610]

Why does everyone think JD will marry soon? I just don't get the "I can't wait to marry" vibe from him?

[0KidsAndHappy 61]

Do I remember correctly ... Has Jessa held hands with other girls while doing mission work?

[socalrules 9,158]

Now that the older girls have read anatomy & physiology books for midwifery, surely they have more knowledge than their peers, if not their parents.

I am not sure talking to my mom before my fundie wedding night would ease my fears. I think it would freak me out more. Ick, Ick, Ick.

What's more freaky is that for people living normal lives, we don't really think much about the wedding night of people we know. It's like, who cares. You figure they already have had sex, so no big deal. Can you imagine being a fundie? You know that so many people you know are currently thinking that you are getting the proverbial cherry popped at that moment. Ick, Ick, Ick.