Jeffs recorded sex with his child wives - what an asshole

[doggie]

Jury hears tapes of polygamist discussing sex

 

WILL WEISSERT

Published: Aug 2, 2011 8:21 PM

SAN ANGELO, Texas (AP) - Prosecutors played two audio recordings Tuesday of a polygamist sect leader instructing his 14-year-old "spiritual wife" and several other young women on how to please him sexually, and thus win favor with God.

 

Warren Jeffs, 55, is head of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which believes polygamy brings exaltation in heaven. He is accused of sexually assaulting two girls, ages 12 and 15, he took as brides in what his church calls "spiritual marriages."

 

A forensic analyst testified Monday that Jeffs was the father of the 15-year-old's child. On Tuesday, prosecutors played a tape of Jeffs talking to the girl when she was 14, after Texas Ranger Nick Hanna testified about documents and electronic files seized during a 2008 police raid at the church's remote compound in West Texas.

 

The Associated Press generally does not identify victims of sexual crimes.

 

Among the materials recovered during the raid was a record of Jeffs' marriage "for time and all eternity" with the 14-year-old in January 2004. An excerpt from hundreds of pages of Jeffs' personal journals said the child was "pure and innocent and willing to obey" and that he summoned her parents and "informed them of their girl belonging to me."

 

Followers see Jeffs as a prophet who is God's spokesman on earth.

 

Hanna read from Jeffs' journals, which said he took the 14-year-old the night after their wedding with him and another of his new wives on a car ride for "training." There, he instructed them on their responsibilities as his wives and had the session taped. The recording was transcribed and placed in church records later seized by police.

 

Lead prosecutor Eric Nichols played the tape for jurors, who followed along using transcripts.

 

"A good wife is trained for her husband and follows the spirit of peace," Jeffs is heard saying. He also makes reference to "drawing close" or "being close," which is how church members refer to sex. Two female voices say "OK."

 

In describing the session in his journal later, Jeffs said he told his wives they were "honorable vessels, property of your husband's kingdom and the Kingdom of God on Earth."

 

Jeffs has represented himself since firing his high-powered attorneys last week. He objected half a dozen times to the tape being played, arguing that the training session was protected by religious privacy rights. State District Judge Barbara Walther overruled him.

 

Later, Nichols played a 58-minute clip of another so-called training session from December 2004, this one involving what he described as 12 "young" ladies, including the one from the first recording.

 

Jeffs stood up and talked over it, rambling about how a holy trust was being broken. "I am but a mortal man seeking peace," he said. "I am not a threat to anyone. My faith is my only weapon."

 

Nichols said Jeffs was interrupting too much and shouldn't be allowed to represent himself. Walther let Jeffs continue.

 

"Mr. Jeffs, I do not want you to be removed from this courtroom," the judge said. "But you are jeopardizing your right to represent yourself with your continued behavior."

 

Jeffs has asked three times for Walther's removal from the case, but his latest request was turned down by a regional administrative judge Tuesday.

 

As the tape continued to play, Jeffs again repeatedly objected. But the judge, jury and prosecutors were wearing headphones to hear the recording, and ignored him. He remained standing long after falling silent.

 

On the recording, Jeffs was heard saying, "you have to know how to excite sexually and be excited. You have to be able to assist each other." At another point, quoting God, he says, "Each one who touches me and assists each other will have my holy gift."

 

Jeffs also was heard telling the girls to shower and wear white robes when they come to him, and gave them instructions on shaving their pubic hair. At the end, he softly sings the "Father, Son and Holy Ghost" refrain.

 

Prosecutors have promised to play still another recording - this one of Jeffs having sex with the 12 year old girl - before resting their case.

 

Before playing the other recordings, Hanna read excerpts of Jeffs' journal where he described the Lord ordering him to visit Eldorado, Texas, about 45 miles south of San Angelo, and the church purchasing 1,700 acres of land outside the town for $1.2 million in 2003.

 

"This will only be a place of refuge if it is kept sacred and secret," Jeffs wrote, adding that his followers should populate the area and let "a community grow here more in hiding before the neighbors find out."

 

He told the faithful they could build anything they wanted, thanks to Texas' lax zoning laws, and construction teams working around-the-clock erected more than a dozen buildings, including a sprawling, white-limestone temple.

 

Texas authorities raided the compound in April 2008 after receiving a call to an abuse hotline that turned out to be a hoax. More than 400 FLDS children who were placed in protective custody were eventually returned to their families.

 

But police saw underage girls who were clearly pregnant and found Jeffs' journals and the other documents in a vault at the end of a secret passageway in the temple. Another vault in an annex building provided still more records and files.

 

Jeffs and 11 other FLDS men were charged with crimes including sexual assault and bigamy. So far, all seven who have been prosecuted have been convicted - receiving prison sentences of between six and 75 years.

[JosiePye]

Ugh,ugh,ugh. He had these children grooming themselves to look even younger and and ordered them to service him in pairs?! It gives me no joy to say this, but prison is going to be singularly unpleasant for him.

[keen23]

I hope, if hell exists, that there is a special place reserved for Warren Jeffs.

[Deleted03]

Ugh,ugh,ugh. He had these children grooming themselves to look even younger and and ordered them to service him in pairs?! It gives me no joy to say this, but prison is going to be singularly unpleasant for him.

I really hope this is true... This guy is deviant, that he was allowed to do those things for so long is repulsive. I don't know who made the call if it was a hoax, but thank them for having the balls to do that.

[doggie]

since the asshat is pretty horrible about defending himself. all he can do is threaten the court with letters from god. This is what gets me most about fundies no matter hat they do god agrees with them and he covers their backs. When they think that is what I mean.

[VenusJS]

Friggan awful. I feel terrible for the countless children whom Jeffs has abused in many ways. He is disgusting. I hope he is found guilty and the court throws the maximum sentence at him.

Thanks for posting the article, doggie.

[nuri]

I can't imagine the hubris involved in taping these grooming and abuse sessions.

I really wish they could just cut him off from contacting the remaining FLDS when he is convicted.

[Rosa]

The problem with FLDS was there were not enough checks and balances, and they'd already been weakened as Rulon Jeffs got older. And women & children had no power, so since they were his first victims (there were child abuse allegations when he was running the church school, way before his dad died) nobody could stop him.

FLDS *had* a process in place for finding a new Prophet when the old one did. Jeffs just ignored it. And there was no way for people to seek redress, so he won.

[ADoyle90815]

He is disgusting, and I wish they would just put him in the general prison population instead of keeping him segregated like they do with pedophiles in general.

[Stickers]

That's gross, I seriously feel like throwing up.

[Jessica]

That's gross, I seriously feel like throwing up.

I'll pass you the barf bag when I'm done with it.

[Witsec6]

I'll pass you the barf bag when I'm done with it.

Seriously. These poor little girls who have no other frame of reference. They can't help themselves because they don't know what's out there for them. It is sick, sad, twisted... I don't even have the words. What a terrible man.

[Austin]

It must be killing him to have a woman for a judge.

[maybeizfundie]

Ugh.

I'm glad he is defending himself. He has no chance. And that is good.

[doggie]

It must be killing him to have a woman for a judge.

it is he has tried at least 3 times to get her removed plus threatened her with a letter from god.

[anniebgood]

He just gives me the creeps. I do hope that he does reap the karma he has sown. :angry-tappingfoot:

I hope that the girls have been given access to some counseling and help.

He's a perverted SOB. :evil:

[Austin]

Ugh.

I'm glad he is defending himself. He has no chance. And that is good.

Let's hope he gets the max. I told my husband that if this disgusting dude walks, after just having Casey Anthony walk, we need to make plans to leave the country!

[Guest Anonymous]

According to the sheriffs in the jails where he has been held, Jeffs has been spending between 4,000.00 monthly on phone cards (at his present jail) and 10,000 per month on phone calls in his previous jail. He's been using the cards to stay in touch with and give marching orders to the FLDS hierarchy on the outside. He should be restricted to 25.00-50.00 per month for phone calls, AT MOST.

[Austin]

Maybe it has to with pre-conviction/post-conviction, but it seems like to spend that much money, he'd have to have unlimited phone access. I don't know - do convicts get unlimited phone access?

[Deleted03]

Let's hope he gets the max. I told my husband that if this disgusting dude walks, after just having Casey Anthony walk, we need to make plans to leave the country!

if there's a video of him engaging in sex with a 12 years-old there is no way he walks out without any charge... It's just completely difference cases...

[forever ago]

if there's a video of him engaging in sex with a 12 years-old there is no way he walks out without any charge... It's just completely difference cases...

On top of that, Jeffs isn't even being tried in Flori-duh.

[Witsec6]

if there's a video of him engaging in sex with a 12 years-old there is no way he walks out without any charge... It's just completely difference cases...

It's audio.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/52318021-78/jeffs-tape-sex-girl.html.csp?page=2

Not that that makes it any better, but harder to prove I think.

[Olivia]

Oh, that made me sick just to read.

[Cliodna]

http://www.rickross.com/groups/polygamy.html My new obsession I've been reading this for days. This is the source for Blanket training and "keeping sweet." Systematic training for pedophilia, slavery, physical and mental abuse of every unimaginable kind. I've read allegations of girls as young as nine being trained by older girls and women in "satisfying men and women!" because after all if you have a shitload of wives you can't keep them all happy! The law enforcement and high-ranking polititions over the years who have looked the other way is shocking. The amount of property and businesses they own boggles my mind. Their were accusations of money-laundering to the tune of over a billion dollars through their own bank. Who here has done business with Beneficial Finance? It's going to take a lot more than bringing down Warren Jeffs to end this mess. The pressure needs to be ramped up and kept up to get the public attention this deserves. Mold doesn't grow in the sunlight.

[Turtle]

If I was juror for a trial like that I would need therapy after hearing that. Just thinking about hearing those recordings is horrible enough.

What a sick bastard.