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      Guest Speaker 1.26.17 @ 8pm eastern   01/22/2017

      I am pleased to announce that we have are going to have a Q&A with an ex-evangelical on Thurs, January 26, 2017 @ 8pm.  The Q&A will last for approximately 1 hour.  I will be setting up a subforum for guest speakers as I hope to be able to get some other folks come talk to us. Our guest on Thurs will be Chris Stroop.  Here is his bio: Christopher Stroop grew up a rank-and-file member of the Christian Right in an Evangelical enclave community, Stroop's childhood social milieu consisting mostly of family and people associated with church and/or Christian school. From about the age of 16, Stroop found himself dealing with an increasingly acute crisis of faith that was not addressed properly by the people he talked to about it, and he was subjected to spiritual abuse. Stroop nevertheless went on to earn a BA in history and German from Ball State University (summa cum laude) in 2003, and then a Ph.D. in modern Russian History and Interdisciplinary Studies in the Humanities from Stanford in 2012. Subsequently, Stroop spent three academic years teaching in the School of Public Policy at the Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy and Public Administration in Moscow, where he kind of sort of almost got in trouble for "teaching Pussy Riot lyrics." Currently, Stroop teaches nineteenth-century European history and Russian Studies classes as a Provost's Postdoctoral Scholar at the University of South Florida and, as a freelance writer and public speaker, speaks out against the abuses of conservative Christianity in general and the the white Evangelical subculture he comes from in particular. You can find many of his writings in this vein on Religion Dispatches. If you would like to support this work financially, please click here (for monthly support) or here (to leave a one-time gift). Stroop's more academic writings can mostly be found here, and you can follow him on Twitter - @C_Stroop.   We are going to use the Q&A forum format.  I will be setting up a special forum just for Chris.  I will open the forum about 15 minutes before the Q&A starts so you can start asking your questions.   We have a few rules.  Failure to follow these rules will get you temporarily placed in the Prayer Closet so we can preview your posts.  If you get put in the PC during the Q&A you will be released once it's over, but lets just follow the few simple rules so none of that is necessary. Rules for Q&A: 1. Be polite.  This is not an event meant for snark.  Chris is taking time out of his busy schedule to talk to us.  He is an expert in the things we discuss here, so let's give him respect, please. 2. One question per post.   Please don't bog him down with a bunch of questions in one post.  We are using the Q&A format so he can easily answer questions.  Putting a ton of questions in one post defeats the purpose.   You can continue discussion on the thread as he answers and ask another question in the same thread if you have one after he answers. 3. Please try to keep thread drift to a minimum during the Q&A.  After it's over, if you want to continue discussion on the topics  and they drift, that's fine. 4.  Be polite! These rules are subject to change as I and the helpmeets think over possible loopholes (cause there is always one person that has to push boundaries)
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Josh Duggar's Instagram (Part 5)

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Part 1: http://freejinger.org/forums/viewtopic. ... 11#p143611

Part 2: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8514&p=227948#p227948

Part 3: http://www.freejinger.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10126

Part 4: http://freejinger.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11316

 

web.stagram.com/n/joshduggar/

Now with added troll action!!

 

 

marmalade said:

 

No, it took at least a year to get "approved" to get into ATI. Boob and Mullet had to complete the Basic (and possibly Advanced) "Seminars," have their family checked (don't forget, you have to send in pictures). This took more time in the early 90's than it does now. Or Gothard is taking anyone he can these days for the coin.

 

I actually hope my comment about comparing his exposure to worldly stuff as a kid compared to Josiah and Joy (and younger) made him actually think and realize that he really doesn't know any of those kids younger than Joseph...and he only knows Joe because he tags along with JD doing the mechanical shit Smuggar can't be bothered with.

 

I hope Sybil...errr...Lacey, etc is reported to instagram, but Smuggar's lazy streak doesn't give me much hope. Lacey's no smarter than anyone with multiple email addys who can create sockpuppets.

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Oh my goodness! We're onto number 5.

:happy-partydance:

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May as well kick off the photos with an M-Slave in training:

joshduggar Our big helper folded the washcloths! #laundryday 3h

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LardLad: so big he needs us to let out yet another thread to accommodate his intake and, um, output. ew.

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This is cakeworthy!

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Maybe Josh can see the used cake toppers when we're done!

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May as well kick off the photos with an M-Slave in training:

joshduggar Our big helper folded the washcloths! #laundryday 3h

48da8910ed5e11e1934a123138141956_6.jpg

Home again during the middle of the day again. Same shit, 468 pages later...

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May as well kick off the photos with an M-Slave in training:

joshduggar Our big helper folded the washcloths! #laundryday 3h

48da8910ed5e11e1934a123138141956_6.jpg

I'm not sure what pisses me off more, the fact that he calls her a "helper" or the comments from alilred_23 and the troll...

[ @ ]joshduggarOur big helper folded the washcloths! #laundryday 3h.

[ @ ] odaddona Josh how old is dje 3h

[ @ ] odaddona She 3h

[ @ ] chrissykehoe Adorable! 3h

[ @ ] ejkblw Starting them early! Whoo! She did a great job 3h

[ @ ] ejmcminn1984 She has the cutest little smile. 3h

[ @ ] qtrtator2012 So cute! #adorable#good#job#mackynzie!! @joshduggar 2h

[ @ ] bensbamagirl What a big girl!! 2h

[ @ ] kaylee_at_home Love those cheeks 2h

[ @ ] princessdie Fluffy @kaylee_at_home 2h

[ @ ] laceycwillnotdie So cute!! I wish she was my daughter!! Lol 58min

[ @ ] z_e_b_r_a Aww.. She is very good at that!;) #awesome #cute #little #girl 47min

[ @ ] z_e_b_r_a @odaddona she will be 3 in October! 46min

[ @ ] alilred_23 teaching her young!! :) 40min

[ @ ] rcarter36 October 8th, 3 2min

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This is cakeworthy!

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Maybe Josh can see the used cake toppers when we're done!

Thaaanks, my almost 5 year old just walked in the room, saw that, and just has to have THAT cake for his birthday in 2 weeks.

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May as well kick off the photos with an M-Slave in training:

joshduggar Our big helper slave folded the washcloths! #laundryday 3h

48da8910ed5e11e1934a123138141956_6.jpg

Sadly, the training starts early for the next generation of girl Duggar slaves. Fixed that for you, Smuggly.

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May as well kick off the photos with an M-Slave in training:

joshduggar Our big helper folded the washcloths! #laundryday 3h

48da8910ed5e11e1934a123138141956_6.jpg

I know that M-Child #1 is reasonably pretty, but why does Josh post a photo of her taken in such awful lighting? It makes her face look fat and lumpy!

Josh, just because you have a camera and an IG account, doesn't mean you are obligated to post Every. Lousy. Photo. you take.

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Poor Mackynzie, she deserves more than being relegated to the role of servant/baby factory. But somehow I have a feeling that by the time she's a teenager Josh and Anna will have moved their family from fundie to fundie lite. I don't think that Josh has the discipline to lived a full-fledged fundie lifestyle, he's had a taste of the world and he seems to be enjoying himself, and Josh and Anna wouldn't have the same zeal as their parents, who were converts to the lifestyle. One can hope, anyway.

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And the troll mentions FJ again.

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And the troll mentions FJ again.

Eff the troll. I just realized this is page five! Huzzah to all, and another round of thanks to Marmalade (for the BB) Beeks, Yaweh and many others for keeping the snark going to number 5.

:greetings-clappingyellow::happy-cheerleadersmileyguy::happy-cheerleaderkid::obscene-drinkingbuddies::text-bravo:

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does every little duggar girl wear a flower on the side of her head

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does every little duggar girl wear a flower on the side of her head

It's attached when they are pulled out of the Juterus. They are born that way.

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Poor Mackynzie, she deserves more than being relegated to the role of servant/baby factory. But somehow I have a feeling that by the time she's a teenager Josh and Anna will have moved their family from fundie to fundie lite. I don't think that Josh has the discipline to lived a full-fledged fundie lifestyle, he's had a taste of the world and he seems to be enjoying himself, and Josh and Anna wouldn't have the same zeal as their parents, who were converts to the lifestyle. One can hope, anyway.

You can hope, but regardless of the lifestyle Josh chooses to live, there is little doubt in my mind that he will always view females as creatures put on this planet to serve men. It's all he has ever known.

I always wish little girls on pregnant people. (I adore my son as much as my girls, but it's a family tradition. My grandmother always said "Think Pink!" whenever one of her grandkids or great grandkids was expecting. I think because her married daughters were always around to help in her later years while her married sons were not.) But I really hope Josh and Anna do not have any more daughters with servants' hearts.

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I know that M-Child #1 is reasonably pretty, but why does Josh post a photo of her taken in such awful lighting? It makes her face look fat and lumpy!

Of all the...She is two! healthy two year olds have round chubby squishable cheeks :roll:

Now, I know this is going to get me yelled at and being called gasp, ''Josh defender'' :evil: ...But having a small child help mother or father with small tasks is completely appropriate and recommended;Who here has not praised a child for being mommy/daddies helper or said what a big boy/girl they are...small children thrive on that and need that. the underlying Why they are doing it is suspect but not the action itself.

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Now, I know this is going to get me yelled at and being called gasp, ''Josh defender'' :evil: ...But having a small child help mother or father with small tasks is completely appropriate and recommended;Who here has not praised a child for being mommy/daddies helper or said what a big boy/girl they are...small children thrive on that and need that. the underlying Why they are doing it is suspect but not the action itself.

In the average American family it is appropriate. Most of us here receive the subliminals.

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Of all the...She is two! healthy two year olds have round chubby squishable cheeks :roll:

Now, I know this is going to get me yelled at and being called gasp, ''Josh defender'' :evil: ...But having a small child help mother or father with small tasks is completely appropriate and recommended;Who here has not praised a child for being mommy/daddies helper or said what a big boy/girl they are...small children thrive on that and need that. the underlying Why they are doing it is suspect but not the action itself.

Nope, I agree entirely with this. I doubt we'll see Michael "helping" with the domestic chores.

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Nope, I agree entirely with this. I doubt we'll see Michael "helping" with the domestic chores.

Michael is always "Li'l Man".

Mackynzie is always "Li'l Helper" (although it appears she has graduated to "Big Helper")

You do the math.

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That is what i mean.The reasons they are having her start chores are wretched but at this point all Mack knows she is making her mommy happy and is big girl. In a few years We will start to see Josh take Mike to the lot or to auctions while Mack will be elbow deep in dishes then it will all start affecting her but now is completely fine.

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Thaaanks, my almost 5 year old just walked in the room, saw that, and just has to have THAT cake for his birthday in 2 weeks.

If you need a pan to make the 5, here you go - http://www.amazon.com/CHEFS-BASICS-SELECT-HW1077-Alphabet/dp/B001KOTUJC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1345775059&sr=8-1&keywords=number+letter+cake+pan

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You can hope, but regardless of the lifestyle Josh chooses to live, there is little doubt in my mind that he will always view females as creatures put on this planet to serve men. It's all he has ever known.

I totally agree, but even a step towards being fundie lite is a step in the right direction and gives Mackynzie (and any future sisters she might have) a bit more of a chance at getting out.

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I don't know. It has been my observation that Fundie lights maybe almost normal in terms of clothing and even education and entertainment but the roll and view of females and appropriate behaviors,futures and activities for them stays basically the same as strict Fundies IE they may work and even go to school but marrying young and being SAHM is the goal

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Thaaanks, my almost 5 year old just walked in the room, saw that, and just has to have THAT cake for his birthday in 2 weeks.

Sorry!

It's ironic that it' a 5 cake, but only has four cars.

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