Summary provided by: Sister Mozz
Young Ladies Christian Fellowship (YLCF.org, renamed in 2013 to Kindred Grace) was a website started in 1998 by Gretchen Glaser. Originally an off-shoot of a print newsletter, it eventually moved completely online and became one of the first and most well-known sites dedicated to Christian young ladies. It focused on the innocence and purity of girlhood and was the home of what they titled THE Index of Courtship Stories (http://web.archive.org/web/200607102122 ... p-stories/).
Early in the 2000's, Gretchen's YLCF Team Members grew to include her best friend Natalie Nyquist. The girls addressed each other as "sissy" and pictures of their occasional in-person meetings were highlighted all over the site. Natalie wrote and published "Quest for the High Places: Encouragement for the Waiting Heart" (http://web.archive.org/web/200607102122 ... tthoughts/) in 2005.
Gretchen was married in 2006 to Merritt Acheson, and their wedding was The Event for YLCF that year (http://web.archive.org/web/201205220316 ... n-wedding/)! Gretchen handed over the reigns of YLCF to Natalie, and she began her own blog (The Little Pink House gretchenlouise.com/little-pink-house/, now GretchenLouise.com). At the time of this writing Gretchen has three children and writes on glorious topics such as laundry, rhapsodizing on the joys of wife- and motherhood, while dropping hints that life may not be quite as glorious as she paints it to be.
The Event for YLCF in 2007 was Natalie's marriage to Rick Klein (http://web.archive.org/web/200712242156 ... /klein.htm). Their wedding was in October (http://web.archive.org/web/200710071258 ... .ylcf.org/). Natalie's father officiated their wedding and said that giving his only daughter in marriage was akin to "handing a Stradivarius to a gorilla". Rick seems to have been more of a gorilla than ever imagined, as the couple were separated by January and divorced a few months later.
Natalie spiraled after the divorce. Gretchen took back over at YLCF, commenting on the failure of Natalie's marriage by saying she believed that one day Natalie would find someone else, and she looked forward to dancing at their wedding. Natalie almost completely dropped offline, dealing with depression from the shattering of her much-dreamed-of marriage, and it has been hinted that she dealt with a mental illness even beyond depression during this time.
In late 2008 or early 2009, Natalie met James Ference (jamesferenceisaliar.blogspot.com/) at their church. After romancing her in whirlwind fashion, and not bothering to tell her he was still married to Wife #3, they made vows to each other and were "married" in April 2009, without telling any of Natalie's family or abundance of friends. Once his divorce was final from Wife #3 that summer, James and Natalie procured their marriage license in July.
Almost without explanation, in April 2009 most of Natalie's writings for YLCF had been scrubbed off the site. In May Natalie posted a statement in response (a link to which can be seen in the comments of this post: everlypleasant.com/2009/05/24/lost-or-just-misplaced/). Questioners have wondered how much about James Ference Gretchen knew to have pulled the plug so quickly, or if their scrubbing of Natalie had to do with the fact that Natalie married James without a courtship and without permission or even knowledge of her family. All ties between Gretchen and Natalie seem to have been severed at the time of Natalie's second marriage.
Natalie and James started their own blog at pursuethebeauty.com, which Natalie still maintains. FreeJinger caught wind that things were fishy with their marriage as early as April 2010 (http://freejinger.yuku.com/topic/1589/L ... yle?page=1). Natalie turned a blind eye to anyone who contacted her about what was being posted online about James. The couple welcomed a son in December 2010. In January 2011 Natalie finally had enough suspicions to check out what people were saying, and confronted James about what she read online. They separated that month and divorced later that year through publication, as scumbag James was nowhere to be located.
Natalie came to FreeJinger to answer questions in this long thread: http://freejinger.yuku.com/reply/137292 ... ip-stories. She now occasionally posts on the raptured FJ as well.
After leaving James, Natalie moved to Chicago with her infant son to be near her parents. Her father is currently president of Moody Bible Institute (moody.edu/edu_MainPage.aspx?id=956). She has since converted to Orthodoxy, is taking classes to begin a career, and has taken a pen name under which she plans to eventually publish books.
Other YLCF Team Members back in the Natalie years were Ashleigh Baker (ashleighbaker.net/), who has since had her own world shaken and is unsure about her faith. In one of the FreeJinger threads Ashleigh makes an unwise appearance, accusing Natalie's mental illnesses of skewing her view. Also Lanier Ivester (laniersbooks.com/), Natalie's former "mentor," a childless wife who runs a small farm in her suburban Georgia home. Lanier's writing is wordy but nearly unreadable with its vagueness.
Since Feb. 2013 there have been some significant updates in Natalie's life:
Natalie has left the Orthodox church (http://www.prodigalmagazine.com/i-dont-like-church/). The type of church she currently attends, if she attends anywhere, is unknown.
In April 2013 Natalie revealed that she suffers from both retrograde and anterograde amnesia (http://pursuethebeauty.com/2013/04/21/amnesia-life/).
She graduated with a degree from the University of Chicago and now works as a proofreader for Moody Publishers. Her father is still president of Moody Bible Institute.
While one can no longer find any traces online of the pen name (Natalie Jacobs) she had chosen under which to pursue writing, except for archived snark discussions about it, Natalie is currently active in the process or writing and pitching her book to publishers under her real name. Presumably the book will be titled "Pursue the Beauty," the same as her website, and will focus on young Christian women overcoming life difficulties.
In April 2014 Natalie was published in HuffPo in an article called What It's Like To Be A Twice-Divorced Mom at 28 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/3 ... ir=Divorce). Free Jinger readers felt the article was inherently dishonest because it failed to mention how courtship and the purity culture played a major part in both of her marriages (viewtopic.php?f=8&t=21723&hilit=natalie).
Natalie keeps very quiet on the subject of her son (3.5 years old as of this update) and does not publish pictures of him online, which is probably smart considering who is father is.
Speaking of James Ference, he appears to still be living with Wife #5, whom he "married" in a fake ceremony on Oct. 31, 2011 (http://jamesferenceisaliar.blogspot.com ... hhhhh.html), and then legally married in June 2013 (http://jamesferenceisaliar.blogspot.com ... up-we.html). The two seem to have had a son around the same time as their legal marriage (viewtopic.php?f=134&t=19607).
7 hours ago, allthegoodnamesrgone said:
Someone needs to tell Jessa to buy a bed skirt or as some call them a dust ruffle then you don't have to worry about the dust bunnies. I was raised by a militant neat freak, it was awful, having a mother who cared more about a clean house than her kids so when I see a less than spotless house I think, a homeowner who has more important things to do. Honestly why the hell does anyone care if Jessa has dust bunnies under her bed, or if Jill has laundry basket on her bedroom floor, of all the awful shit this family does, not living in a spotless house isn't even in the top 10.
I agree, a mother spending all her time on the house is not ideal for the kids. However, Ben is a professional toilet cleaner. (Just ask JB. Lol). Maybe he should be cleaning the house.0
4 hours ago, Smash! said:
You had that as well? That's so cool! My parents got it when my sister and I were pretty young children and read it with us.
I had it too. Must have read it a dozen times! In German, it's called "Peter, Ida und Minimum."1
6 hours ago, justmy2cents said:
I don't remember them discussing any protocol but Jeremy did say that he asked JB if he could get to know Jinger in early Dec. 2015. I just can't imagine a guy asking my dad if he could talk to me.
I can imagine my reaction if a guy asked my dad for permission to talk to me. If he did not have the guts to talk to me directly i would not have talked to him. If he thought i would talk to him just because my dad likes him, without thinking about my opinion, i would not have talked to him. I appreciate my dad's opinion, but he never would have liked to be my door to the world.
I can imagine my dad's reaction to such sort of guy. A guy who asked my dad for permission to get to know me would never ever have got his permission. Because my dad considers bis daughter as an independant woman with her own mind.Edited by Scrabblemaster
I really love my dad for being just as he is0
7 hours ago, PennySycamore said:
@MamaJunebug, I remember those old belts and pads you had to hitch up! They were so uncomfortable. I remember getting my period (not for the first time though) at the Beta Club state convention in Columbia. I had to go to the drug store and by that time they'd come out with Stayfree. I was eternally grateful to not have to deal with a belt.
When we girls or my mom had our periods, the dogs liked to knock over the kitchen or bathroom trash and snack on bloody Kotex. My sister and I had many days when we'd have to clean up in front of the door before my brothers came inside. Good times, I tell you!
What do you mean a belt? I'm confused.0
8 hours ago, catlady said:
yep, she's 50; only 3 years removed from the baby boomers.
That would be me. I'm at the tail end of the boomers. Does she go and try to hang with the millennials and expect to be accepted? She must make them really uncomfortable. They see her coming and say,.." Oh we gotta split, that creepy old lady is here". They probably wouldn't say "split"0