By the way, I wrote all this sans wine if you are keeping track at home.

First random thoughts:  Isha Davidson has Michelle Duggar eyes;  I was very surprised that Good Girl was all of 18; and I bet that the full-frontal hug was to check breast status (VOIAPP sent a vicarious hugger).

So...agree that this chapter was very discouraging in a Maranatha/Lauren Chapman sort of way.  BTW--Where is Good Girl's mother (is Isha her representative)?  Is she anywhere in these pages?   [We have been focused on Vaughn Ohlman, but I should do some research on his wife as well.]

it's breaking my heart that somewhere, there is a child out there RIGHT NOW that is being harmed by this guy's teachings

Yes.  I don't get it. 

19 minutes ago, CTRLZero said:

I was very surprised that Good Girl was all of 18; and I bet that the full-frontal hug was to check breast status (VOIAPP sent a vicarious hugger).

OH GOD. I didn't even think about that. OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD. You are probably not wrong and oh god, I feel sick to my stomach. Vaughn Ohlman is a creeper!

I just checked and it doesn't appear that Good Girl's mother exists in this world. I guess Space Invader is the closest we get.

Gag. This guy is repulsive.

And I just looked at the reviews on this on Amazon. 4 reviews, all either 4- or 5-star.

I suppose it's too much to hope that all of those are his socks?

ETA: Oh God. One of the reviews compares the book's style to a "Socratic dialogue." Yeah, for creeper idiots, maybe.

Just now, EyeQueue said:

Gag. This guy is repulsive.

And I just looked at the reviews on this on Amazon. 4 reviews, all either 4- or 5-star.

I suppose it's too much to hope that all of those are his socks?

OH HELL NO. I might have to go leave a comment later.

3 minutes ago, Destiny said:

OH HELL NO. I might have to go leave a comment later.

Yeah, you should. The commenters (all 4 of them) are licking this shit up with a spoon.

2 hours ago, Destiny said:

VOIAPP

What is this?  I'm terrible with acronyms

I'm confused.  How did Space Invader know who Good Girl was since this is her first appearance and there were no introductions?

A stranger that walked up and just hugged me would be short at least one limb when they pulled back.  NO Just NO NO NO.   People already invade my space way more than I like because a wheelchair means you have no personal space and people can treat you like furniture and just move you wherever they want (that's a completely different rant though.)

If you blush when people whisper the word breasts or sex to you (as was in previous chapter), you are definitely not old enough to get married.

I'm amazed you've made it this far through this book.

21 minutes ago, Curious said:

What is this?  I'm terrible with acronyms

"Vaughn Ohlman is a pervy pedo" or something along those lines.

http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/5805570.Vaughn_Ohlman needs more 0 ratings!  Also I see his friends list has some Penningtons, including Grace.

@Curious, the text implies that Space Invader just knew who Good Girl was from talking to Nosy Busybody, but Space Invader didn't confirm that Good Girl was Good Girl until after the hug. I thought that part made no sense, because, according to the illustrations, they live in a town big enough to have high rise buildings. I just chalked it up to him being a terrible writer. 

2 hours ago, Curious said:

What is this?  I'm terrible with acronyms

 

VOIAPP stands for Vaughn Ohlman Is A Pedophilic Pimp. 

Here's where it originated 

Since it's a very long thread, here it's the comment where it started

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Good Girl is in the park, all sad and depressed, and Space Invader walks up to her and is all, "You look like you need a hug," THEN SHE HUGS GOOD GIRL. Good Girl is all who the actual fuck are you and WHAT THE SHIT ARE YOU DOING HUGGING SOMEONE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. I know that I like being touched less than some people, but you do NOT hug me unless you know me, and maybe not even then. These assholes have no concept of personal space and boundaries.

This 1millionty times! WTF - this chapter is the worst for me (I'm half way through) purely because it starts with SPACEINVADER! NO, just NO! what the ever loving fuck was he thinking of? Even if they had met prior, which they hadn't, not being good friends with someone (in which case your relationship probably already has some spoken/no spoken rules about physical contact) means if you wish to give them a hug ASK FIRST! 'oh you look sad. Would you like a hug?' It's not that f'n hard!

Which gives me a perfect place to enter my 'fav' quote

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Maydyn: [The girls hug, Maydyn looking awkward] Do I know you?

She actually has a somewhat normal response! omg she has feelings.

Also anyone I didn't know coming up to hug me in a park wouldn't end well. I might (if my escape routes were open) find the calmness within myself to ask them how the fuck they thought they knew me, ask for a selfie with them(I mean cops like photos of creepers right?) before I lost my self-control and needed to hightail it out of there.

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3) "In what you would call Chapter 8". Every Bible I have ever seen is divided into chapter and verse. What the hell is she on about? Do these people have a super special Bible I've never heard of?

This is actually becoming trendy in some circles (someone did a kickstarter for one a while back - google told me; it must be true). Apparently reading the bible like a novel makes it a lot more meaningful. I can actually understand that in a way, because it stops you cherry picking quite so much. I have seen bibles before that had reduced pale referencing. They generally used the subsections in the chapters and grouped it all together in a block text with a reference like 1 Corinthians 7:25-40 - Concerning the Unmarried. There are quite a few people who dislike the bible chapters/verses/headings because the original version wasn't written like that. I wouldn't be surprised if they called themselves Bible purists or something similar.

6 hours ago, CTRLZero said:

BTW--Where is Good Girl's mother (is Isha her representative)?

Good Girl's mommy doesn't have any lines. She is still alive and apparently around, there is a reference to her in chapter 15 that lets you know that.

 

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We are back in the park. Do people hang out in the park this much in real life?

I would if we had a nice park around here. One place I lived in was pretty much opposite a park. I lived on those swings between 10pm and 1am for a while. I could just get a swingset to put up in my back yard I guess, but then I'd be responsible for it - and they cost shitloads. I'm actually not allowed on the swings in my town: I'm too old.

I do wonder if that park (which looks more like median strip in the middle of a road) is the center of town. On one side there are the highrise buildings (clearly where the 'worldly' folk live), and on the other side are more suburbia type town houses (where I guess the 'pure and innocent' live). I mean clearly there are churches somewhere too
 

6 hours ago, OnceUponATime said:

I can actually understand that in a way, because it stops you cherry picking quite so much.

This is something I have thought of on my own, in an unformed, biblically-uneducated sort of way.  I occasionally think, for example, "Hey, weren't these letters written to various people, and isn't there more to the story?"  The chapter and verse format is convenient, but has probably led to new religions sprouting up through cherry picking.  My first Bible had red letters ("Jesus said") and included the year, just so you wouldn't get confused by science and think earth was over 6000 years old.

8 hours ago, OnceUponATime said:

This is actually becoming trendy in some circles (someone did a kickstarter for one a while back - google told me; it must be true). Apparently reading the bible like a novel makes it a lot more meaningful. I can actually understand that in a way, because it stops you cherry picking quite so much. I have seen bibles before that had reduced pale referencing. They generally used the subsections in the chapters and grouped it all together in a block text with a reference like 1 Corinthians 7:25-40 - Concerning the Unmarried. There are quite a few people who dislike the bible chapters/verses/headings because the original version wasn't written like that. I wouldn't be surprised if they called themselves Bible purists or something similar.

That actually makes sense. I can see the use case for that. I wonder if Mr. Ohlman (who is a creeper) is a proponent of that. For some reason, I can't see him being anything but straight KJV though....he just seems the type.

ITA with the bolded.

On May 12, 2016 at 2:53 AM, OnceUponATime said:

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I would if we had a nice park around here. One place I lived in was pretty much opposite a park. I lived on those swings between 10pm and 1am for a while. I could just get a swingset to put up in my back yard I guess, but then I'd be responsible for it - and they cost shitloads. I'm actually not allowed on the swings in my town: I'm too old.

 

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I was swinging at a park with my 7 year last week (just to demonstrate proper technique, of course  ) and discovered I can't enjoy swinging anymore.  It made me dizzy and motion-sick. Not like a Duggar on an ocean cruise, but no fun.

I was never motion sick as a kid. I read on long car trips over winding mountain roads. I went on every spinning ride at the fair.  I'm tired of my body changing without my permission! I want to swing with abandon! I want to enjoy the Tilt-a-Whirl! 

Oh, and Vaughn Ohlman is a disgusting perverted pedophile pimp and a creeper.